The copenhagen diagnosis, extreme events

[Old Rocks]

Thus far we have about 950 tornados sited in April. A resounding record for the month. A confirmation of the predictions in the Copenhagen Diagnosis;

http://www.copenhagendiagnosis.org/read/default.html

Correction. 600+ for April, over 950 for the total year for the US. Still a record, considering the previous high was about 250.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Gimmie the Cliff's notes version of the book if you could please. My puter is having troubles with the site.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

When we were teasing you about Snowstorms during the copenhagen global warming thing, you were saying that anomalous single data points don't prove a whole lot.

Three years ago, we were supposed to have a record number of hurricanes that year. We had exactly zero that year.

Every year is freaky, every year shows trends. As you have noted before, a data point is just that, a data point.

There are a lot of things going on this year. Here in Portland it has been really cold, I think there have been only three warm days since winter started and today is chilly too. If you hav been looking out your window here in Portland for signs of Global Warming you have been vastly disappointed.

Lets just treat data correctly, ok?

 

[Old Rocks]

When we were teasing you about Snowstorms during the copenhagen global warming thing, you were saying that anomalous single data points don't prove a whole lot.

Three years ago, we were supposed to have a record number of hurricanes that year. We had exactly zero that year.

Every year is freaky, every year shows trends. As you have noted before, a data point is just that, a data point.

There are a lot of things going on this year. Here in Portland it has been really cold, I think there have been only three warm days since winter started and today is chilly too. If you hav been looking out your window here in Portland for signs of Global Warming you have been vastly disappointed.

Lets just treat data correctly, ok?

No, Portland has been cool, not cold. Cold is like 1910, when they drove wagons across to Vancouver on the ice in the Columbia. It has been cool and very wet, as is the norm during a La Nina. However, considering the strength of this La Nina, it should have been much colder.

 

[uscitizen]

KY has had the most rainfall in April for any year on record.
And a few days are left with more rain on the way.

 

[Old Rocks]

Gimmie the Cliff's notes version of the book if you could please. My puter is having troubles with the site.

The Copenhagen Diagnosis is a 64 page document written by 26 scientists engaged in studying climate that sums up the present knowledge of the climate for 2009. And makes a few short term and long term predictions. Among the chapters is one on extreme weather events, and graphs showing an upward trend in them.

The Copenhagen Diagnosis

 

[ABikerSailor]

Gimmie the Cliff's notes version of the book if you could please. My puter is having troubles with the site.

The Copenhagen Diagnosis is a 64 page document written by 26 scientists engaged in studying climate that sums up the present knowledge of the climate for 2009. And makes a few short term and long term predictions. Among the chapters is one on extreme weather events, and graphs showing an upward trend in them.

The Copenhagen Diagnosis

So in other words, global climate change.

I think Al Gore would have gotten farther if he'd called it that instead of global warming.

 

[Old Rocks]

Gimmie the Cliff's notes version of the book if you could please. My puter is having troubles with the site.

The Copenhagen Diagnosis is a 64 page document written by 26 scientists engaged in studying climate that sums up the present knowledge of the climate for 2009. And makes a few short term and long term predictions. Among the chapters is one on extreme weather events, and graphs showing an upward trend in them.

The Copenhagen Diagnosis

So in other words, global climate change.

I think Al Gore would have gotten farther if he'd called it that instead of global warming.

That's a fact. However, it is only in the last few years that we have seen evidence for how rapid and extreme the change is. Nobody predicted the extent of the Arctic Ocean Sea Ice melting. Nor the speed at which the permafrost is melting, and the effects of one particular type, yedoma.

Many of the scientists studying the subject are simply appalled that nobody is listening when they present their observations. Not even when people are dying because of the changes.

 

[ABikerSailor]

The east coast is going to flood 20-35 feet as well.

 

[westwall]

Thus far we have about 950 tornados sited in April. A resounding record for the month. A confirmation of the predictions in the Copenhagen Diagnosis;

The Copenhagen Diagnosis 2009

Correction. 600+ for April, over 950 for the total year for the US. Still a record, considering the previous high was about 250.

No it's not. Here's the wiki page for tornado records tropical cyclones and as you can see there is no trend discernible. The storms happen and so far 1974 leads the way with quantity of tornados in a single day with 148 reported in a 18 hour period.

More alarmist BS designed to frighten the savages to further empty their pockets. I see Steig et als discredited Antarctic study is prominently used, surprise surprise. And just like it is false so is the rest of this horse manure.


Tornado records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of tropical cyclone records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[martybegan]

Thus far we have about 950 tornados sited in April. A resounding record for the month. A confirmation of the predictions in the Copenhagen Diagnosis;

The Copenhagen Diagnosis 2009

Correction. 600+ for April, over 950 for the total year for the US. Still a record, considering the previous high was about 250.

No it's not. Here's the wiki page for tornado records tropical cyclones and as you can see there is no trend discernible. The storms happen and so far 1974 leads the way with quantity of tornados in a single day with 148 reported in a 18 hour period.

More alarmist BS designed to frighten the savages to further empty their pockets. I see Steig et als discredited Antarctic study is prominently used, surprise surprise. And just like it is false so is the rest of this horse manure.


Tornado records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of tropical cyclone records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We have dueling data here. Rocks where did you get your #'s for tornadoes, and what methadology did both use to consdier an event a "tornado" (i.e supercell formation, funnel cloud formation, or actual tocudown?

 

[percysunshine]

Weather changes. If I could make a living predicting that the weather was about to change, I would be a very successful professional political lobbiest.

 

[Old Rocks]

Thus far we have about 950 tornados sited in April. A resounding record for the month. A confirmation of the predictions in the Copenhagen Diagnosis;

The Copenhagen Diagnosis 2009

Correction. 600+ for April, over 950 for the total year for the US. Still a record, considering the previous high was about 250.

No it's not. Here's the wiki page for tornado records tropical cyclones and as you can see there is no trend discernible. The storms happen and so far 1974 leads the way with quantity of tornados in a single day with 148 reported in a 18 hour period.

More alarmist BS designed to frighten the savages to further empty their pockets. I see Steig et als discredited Antarctic study is prominently used, surprise surprise. And just like it is false so is the rest of this horse manure.


Tornado records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of tropical cyclone records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We have dueling data here. Rocks where did you get your #'s for tornadoes, and what methadology did both use to consdier an event a "tornado" (i.e supercell formation, funnel cloud formation, or actual tocudown?

More Wednesday Tornadoes May Break April Record | United States | Epoch Times

So far this month, more than 600 tornado reports or sightings have been documented. Even though many reports could be from the same storm, the number of confirmed tornadoes will most likely exceed the old April record tornado outbreak of 267 set back in 1974.

NASA - GOES-13 Satellite Animation Shows U.S. Severe Storms and Tornado Outbreak

NOAA's Storm Prediction Center noted that the system generated 243 tornadoes in 13 states in three days, from April 14-16. According to the Weather Channel, the weather system generated 29 tornadoes on April 14 across the states of Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas and Texas. As the storm moved east, 73 tornadoes touched down in Alabama, Mississippi, Illinois, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri and Louisiana on April 15. On Saturday, April 16, 51 tornadoes were reported in North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Maryland. Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina and Virginia have all declared a state of emergency.


April Breaks 1974 Tornado Record with 292 Confirmed Storms - Yahoo! News

 

[Truthmatters]

Im sure they will just trash the information because of their deep seeded hate for science

 

[westwall]

No it's not. Here's the wiki page for tornado records tropical cyclones and as you can see there is no trend discernible. The storms happen and so far 1974 leads the way with quantity of tornados in a single day with 148 reported in a 18 hour period.

More alarmist BS designed to frighten the savages to further empty their pockets. I see Steig et als discredited Antarctic study is prominently used, surprise surprise. And just like it is false so is the rest of this horse manure.


Tornado records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of tropical cyclone records - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We have dueling data here. Rocks where did you get your #'s for tornadoes, and what methadology did both use to consdier an event a "tornado" (i.e supercell formation, funnel cloud formation, or actual tocudown?

More Wednesday Tornadoes May Break April Record | United States | Epoch Times

So far this month, more than 600 tornado reports or sightings have been documented. Even though many reports could be from the same storm, the number of confirmed tornadoes will most likely exceed the old April record tornado outbreak of 267 set back in 1974.

NASA - GOES-13 Satellite Animation Shows U.S. Severe Storms and Tornado Outbreak

NOAA's Storm Prediction Center noted that the system generated 243 tornadoes in 13 states in three days, from April 14-16. According to the Weather Channel, the weather system generated 29 tornadoes on April 14 across the states of Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas and Texas. As the storm moved east, 73 tornadoes touched down in Alabama, Mississippi, Illinois, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri and Louisiana on April 15. On Saturday, April 16, 51 tornadoes were reported in North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Maryland. Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina and Virginia have all declared a state of emergency.


April Breaks 1974 Tornado Record with 292 Confirmed Storms - Yahoo! News

So in other words, it took 37 years to break the old record and it is now far easier to find tornados then it was back then.......is that about correct?

 

[Old Rocks]

So in other words, what you posted had little to do with present reality, as per the norm. Look at the information below. Many records being broken in just the last 5 years. As the scientists that wrote the Copenhagen diagnosis predicted.

April Breaks 1974 Tornado Record with 292 Confirmed Storms - Yahoo! News

* February proved to be an above-average month for tornadoes as well. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) advised that 59 confirmed tornadoes took place in February 2011. Compare this to only one tornado in February of the preceding year, and it is clear that the 2011 tornado season is getting off to a quite extraordinary start.

* Preliminary March counts show that 115 tornadoes have been reported. If they are all confirmed, 2011 will tie 2009. The year 2010 only saw 33 tornadoes in March, while 2008 set the record with 129. Even if the numbers are not as high yet, there is a definite trend that shows 2011 tornado counts to be quite above 2010 figures in the year's first quarter.

* Annual tornado counts may hit a record high in 2011. NOAA shows a preliminary 2011 year-to-date tornado count of 751. The actual count for 2010 was 1,282 tornadoes. The year 2008 saw 1,692 confirmed tornadoes, with the majority occurring in May and June. If April's numbers are any indication, there is a good chance that 2011 will surpass 2008 by a long shot.

 

[martybegan]

Im sure they will just trash the information because of their deep seeded hate for science

I'm a Chemical Engineer with a masters degree, so I think when it comes to science I have knowledge above your average person.

its not a hate of science, is a distrust of people who try to use science for poltical change.

 

[westwall]

So in other words, what you posted had little to do with present reality, as per the norm. Look at the information below. Many records being broken in just the last 5 years. As the scientists that wrote the Copenhagen diagnosis predicted.

April Breaks 1974 Tornado Record with 292 Confirmed Storms - Yahoo! News

* February proved to be an above-average month for tornadoes as well. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) advised that 59 confirmed tornadoes took place in February 2011. Compare this to only one tornado in February of the preceding year, and it is clear that the 2011 tornado season is getting off to a quite extraordinary start.

* Preliminary March counts show that 115 tornadoes have been reported. If they are all confirmed, 2011 will tie 2009. The year 2010 only saw 33 tornadoes in March, while 2008 set the record with 129. Even if the numbers are not as high yet, there is a definite trend that shows 2011 tornado counts to be quite above 2010 figures in the year's first quarter.

* Annual tornado counts may hit a record high in 2011. NOAA shows a preliminary 2011 year-to-date tornado count of 751. The actual count for 2010 was 1,282 tornadoes. The year 2008 saw 1,692 confirmed tornadoes, with the majority occurring in May and June. If April's numbers are any indication, there is a good chance that 2011 will surpass 2008 by a long shot.

Records are meant to be broken if you hadn't figured that out. However, their "predictions" are falling way short in other areas. In fact all of the alarmist predictions for the most part are nothing more than hot air. If we make it to June 10 without a Hurricane hitting the CONUS it will be 1000 days without a hurricane hitting us. A record dating back to at least the American civil War. That's exactly opposite of what the alarmists have been predicting for years. Care to explain that?

 

[martybegan]

We have dueling data here. Rocks where did you get your #'s for tornadoes, and what methadology did both use to consdier an event a "tornado" (i.e supercell formation, funnel cloud formation, or actual tocudown?

More Wednesday Tornadoes May Break April Record | United States | Epoch Times

So far this month, more than 600 tornado reports or sightings have been documented. Even though many reports could be from the same storm, the number of confirmed tornadoes will most likely exceed the old April record tornado outbreak of 267 set back in 1974.

NASA - GOES-13 Satellite Animation Shows U.S. Severe Storms and Tornado Outbreak

NOAA's Storm Prediction Center noted that the system generated 243 tornadoes in 13 states in three days, from April 14-16. According to the Weather Channel, the weather system generated 29 tornadoes on April 14 across the states of Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas and Texas. As the storm moved east, 73 tornadoes touched down in Alabama, Mississippi, Illinois, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri and Louisiana on April 15. On Saturday, April 16, 51 tornadoes were reported in North Carolina, Virginia, South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia and Maryland. Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina and Virginia have all declared a state of emergency.


April Breaks 1974 Tornado Record with 292 Confirmed Storms - Yahoo! News

So in other words, it took 37 years to break the old record and it is now far easier to find tornados then it was back then.......is that about correct?

One also has to take into account we detect more tornados than ever before. 30-40 years ago many were probably missed, either as too small, or in very remote areas. We didnt have the doppler radar we have today that can detect storm cells, or determine vectors for wind velocity at range. All this helps detect tornados, and can increase the number past what we are seeing now.

For a truly fair comparison you would have to filter the tornados that would only have been noticed by older technology. from that you could compare apples to apples, not apples to watermelons.

 

[Ernie S.]

Thus far we have about 950 tornados sited in April. A resounding record for the month. A confirmation of the predictions in the Copenhagen Diagnosis;

The Copenhagen Diagnosis 2009

Correction. 600+ for April, over 950 for the total year for the US. Still a record, considering the previous high was about 250.

Maybe you could past pertinent info. The site seems as poorly constructed as the myth of AGW.