The Confrontation Between Trump and the Supreme Court Has Arrived

[Seymour Flops]

So you didn’t even read it.

Fuck off

LoL.

i supported my claim. People who support their claims don't have to fuck off, genius.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

A test may be coming, but this isn't it.

First, there is no reason for the court to want a fight.

Second if they do, they'll want a better poster boy than this verified MS13 gang member the media is so enamored of.

Third, they didn't even sign the opinion. It was a few paragraphs.

The last case that could have been the kind of test you're envisioning was US v. Nixon over the Watergate tapes. The justices agreed to make it unanimous even though not all agreed.

It was very clear, with no wiggle room. It was signed by all. This unsigned Roberts court decision has plenty of wiggle room for Trump to say he did his best.

You are wrong, very.

 

[Independent thinker]

‘America has reached a very dangerous moment, as the Supreme Court’s indulgence of President Donald Trump’s belief in his own untrammeled authority collides with the justices’ expectation that he will abide by their decisions.

This evening, the Supreme Court upheld part of a lower-court decision ordering the Trump administration to seek to retrieve Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whom—as The Atlantic first reported—the administration has acknowledged it mistakenly dispatched to El Salvador’s notorious Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, or CECOT. Abrego Garcia, who came to the United States illegally but was allowed to stay after a judge ruled that he was likely to be persecuted by gangs in his native El Salvador, would be the first person publicly known to be released from CECOT.
[…]
The fact that the order was issued without dissent was remarkable. The Roberts Court has indulged Trump at nearly every turn, first writing the anti-insurrection clause out of the Fourteenth Amendment and then foiling his federal prosecution by inventing a grant of presidential immunity with no basis in the text of the Constitution. Justice John Roberts and his colleagues have deployed a selective proceduralism to avoid directly confronting the Trump administration, one that contrasts with their alacrity in cases where they are seeking their preferred outcome. Yet the confrontation they sought to avoid has arrived nonetheless, and even the Trumpiest justices, such as Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, joined their colleagues in informing the Trump administration that what it had done was illegal and should be remedied.
[…]
If the administration makes an insincere effort to bring Abrego Garcia back, then those rights become the very sort of “parchment barriers” James Madison feared would be easily violated. If Trump defies the Court, there is little to restrain him from acting as an autocrat, given the supplication of Republicans in Congress.

The risks here for constitutional government are tremendous. Yet even if this case now unfolds in the ideal way, Trump’s aspirations toward unchecked power mean that the nation will never veer too far from the “path of perfect lawlessness,” at least not as long as he remains in office.’

The Confrontation Between Trump and the Supreme Court Has Arrived

The justices ordered the government to seek the return of a man whom it had wrongfully deported.

www.theatlantic.com

There’s no doubt that Trump will ignore the Court's ruling, lying that he ‘did his best’ to bring Abrego Garcia back, when in fact no good faith effort was made.

And Trump’s continued defiance of the courts will confirm the fact that America has become an authoritarian fascist state, ruled by a despot and autocrat, not the law.

What happened to you guys saying that the SC is beholden to Trump?

 

[whitehall]

The dying old left wing rag that calls itself "The Atlantic" never once criticized the former president who had his trembling thumb on the nuclear button. Wouldn't you know the old liberal rag thinks (hopes) "America has reached a very dangerous moment" when the borders are closed. Go figure.

 

[airplanemechanic]

This is clearly the test

9-0 Decision is pretty emphatic

9-0 means NOTHING. You ever heard of co-equal branches of gov't? Please cite the law that states that SCOTUS has the right to tell the chief executive how to conduct foreign policy. What will they do next, start making war plans?

If Trump can't tell SCOTUS what to do, then the opposite is true as well. OBVIOUSLY SCOTUS cannot demand the return of someone to US soil from a foreign nation.

NOPE. NADA.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What does the left think that such a confrontation would look like?

Suppose the court unanimously ruled that all the recent deportees must me brought back from El Salvador, given reasonable bail, and court dates.

Trump says, "I cannot comply, due to the danger to our communities."

Then what?

 

[Lesh]

9-0 means NOTHING. You ever heard of co-equal branches of gov't? Please cite the law that states that SCOTUS has the right to tell the chief executive how to conduct foreign policy. What will they do next, start making war plans?

If Trump can't tell SCOTUS what to do, then the opposite is true as well. OBVIOUSLY SCOTUS cannot demand the return of someone to US soil from a foreign nation.

NOPE. NADA.

It’s got nothing to do with foreign policy

 

[JimH52]

‘America has reached a very dangerous moment, as the Supreme Court’s indulgence of President Donald Trump’s belief in his own untrammeled authority collides with the justices’ expectation that he will abide by their decisions.

This evening, the Supreme Court upheld part of a lower-court decision ordering the Trump administration to seek to retrieve Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whom—as The Atlantic first reported—the administration has acknowledged it mistakenly dispatched to El Salvador’s notorious Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, or CECOT. Abrego Garcia, who came to the United States illegally but was allowed to stay after a judge ruled that he was likely to be persecuted by gangs in his native El Salvador, would be the first person publicly known to be released from CECOT.
[…]
The fact that the order was issued without dissent was remarkable. The Roberts Court has indulged Trump at nearly every turn, first writing the anti-insurrection clause out of the Fourteenth Amendment and then foiling his federal prosecution by inventing a grant of presidential immunity with no basis in the text of the Constitution. Justice John Roberts and his colleagues have deployed a selective proceduralism to avoid directly confronting the Trump administration, one that contrasts with their alacrity in cases where they are seeking their preferred outcome. Yet the confrontation they sought to avoid has arrived nonetheless, and even the Trumpiest justices, such as Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, joined their colleagues in informing the Trump administration that what it had done was illegal and should be remedied.
[…]
If the administration makes an insincere effort to bring Abrego Garcia back, then those rights become the very sort of “parchment barriers” James Madison feared would be easily violated. If Trump defies the Court, there is little to restrain him from acting as an autocrat, given the supplication of Republicans in Congress.

The risks here for constitutional government are tremendous. Yet even if this case now unfolds in the ideal way, Trump’s aspirations toward unchecked power mean that the nation will never veer too far from the “path of perfect lawlessness,” at least not as long as he remains in office.’

The Confrontation Between Trump and the Supreme Court Has Arrived

The justices ordered the government to seek the return of a man whom it had wrongfully deported.

www.theatlantic.com

There’s no doubt that Trump will ignore the Court's ruling, lying that he ‘did his best’ to bring Abrego Garcia back, when in fact no good faith effort was made.

And Trump’s continued defiance of the courts will confirm the fact that America has become an authoritarian fascist state, ruled by a despot and autocrat, not the law.

trump is up the ante. His next defiance will be more destructive, all the while MAGATs defend him.

 

[marvin martian]

‘America has reached a very dangerous moment, as the Supreme Court’s indulgence of President Donald Trump’s belief in his own untrammeled authority collides with the justices’ expectation that he will abide by their decisions.

This evening, the Supreme Court upheld part of a lower-court decision ordering the Trump administration to seek to retrieve Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whom—as The Atlantic first reported—the administration has acknowledged it mistakenly dispatched to El Salvador’s notorious Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, or CECOT. Abrego Garcia, who came to the United States illegally but was allowed to stay after a judge ruled that he was likely to be persecuted by gangs in his native El Salvador, would be the first person publicly known to be released from CECOT.
[…]
The fact that the order was issued without dissent was remarkable. The Roberts Court has indulged Trump at nearly every turn, first writing the anti-insurrection clause out of the Fourteenth Amendment and then foiling his federal prosecution by inventing a grant of presidential immunity with no basis in the text of the Constitution. Justice John Roberts and his colleagues have deployed a selective proceduralism to avoid directly confronting the Trump administration, one that contrasts with their alacrity in cases where they are seeking their preferred outcome. Yet the confrontation they sought to avoid has arrived nonetheless, and even the Trumpiest justices, such as Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, joined their colleagues in informing the Trump administration that what it had done was illegal and should be remedied.
[…]
If the administration makes an insincere effort to bring Abrego Garcia back, then those rights become the very sort of “parchment barriers” James Madison feared would be easily violated. If Trump defies the Court, there is little to restrain him from acting as an autocrat, given the supplication of Republicans in Congress.

The risks here for constitutional government are tremendous. Yet even if this case now unfolds in the ideal way, Trump’s aspirations toward unchecked power mean that the nation will never veer too far from the “path of perfect lawlessness,” at least not as long as he remains in office.’

The Confrontation Between Trump and the Supreme Court Has Arrived

The justices ordered the government to seek the return of a man whom it had wrongfully deported.

www.theatlantic.com

There’s no doubt that Trump will ignore the Court's ruling, lying that he ‘did his best’ to bring Abrego Garcia back, when in fact no good faith effort was made.

And Trump’s continued defiance of the courts will confirm the fact that America has become an authoritarian fascist state, ruled by a despot and autocrat, not the law.

When did you stop supporting this?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

What happened to you guys saying that the SC is beholden to Trump?

They don't want to go to jail.

 

[d0gbreath]

The court could send a contingent of US Marshalls, if they want to.

 

[airplanemechanic]

It’s got nothing to do with foreign policy

Um YES. Whether or not to remove someone from another country IS FOREIGN POLICY YOU STUPID FUCK.

So when Biden defies the SCOTUS and continues to forgive student debt that SCOTUS says he can't do, you had no issues with it. But Trump defies SCOTUS and you call it a CONFRONTATION.

Fuck off, loser.

 

[airplanemechanic]

The court could send a contingent of US Marshalls, if they want to.

SCOTUS has no authority outside of the US, dumbfuck.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Why do you feel the need to lie about this?
Garcia is not a gang member

You don't know that anymore than the rest of us. He says he wasn't. 13 member says he was.
But, what we can all agree on is that he was in our country illegally...

Since he doesn't appear to be a threat to the public, have him apply for a work visa, bring him back and let him apply for citizenship.

 

[d0gbreath]

SCOTUS has no authority outside of the US, dumbfuck.

Not to El Salvador; to the white house, dumberfuck.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Um YES. Whether or not to remove someone from another country IS FOREIGN POLICY YOU STUPID FUCK.

So when Biden defies the SCOTUS and continues to forgive student debt that SCOTUS says he can't do, you had no issues with it. But Trump defies SCOTUS and you call it a CONFRONTATION.

Fuck off, loser.

Deporting a man without due process is a legal problem.

Getting him back is a matter of international law.

This is a matter of the Administration overturning the law.

 

[d0gbreath]

Deporting a man without due process is a legal problem.

Getting him back is a matter of international law.

This is a matter of the Administration overturning the law.

He's been there. There's no way that they can let him come back. Those pesky interviews.

 

[BackAgain]

‘America has reached a very dangerous moment, as the Supreme Court’s indulgence of President Donald Trump’s belief in his own untrammeled authority collides with the justices’ expectation that he will abide by their decisions.

This evening, the Supreme Court upheld part of a lower-court decision ordering the Trump administration to seek to retrieve Kilmar Abrego Garcia, whom—as The Atlantic first reported—the administration has acknowledged it mistakenly dispatched to El Salvador’s notorious Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo, or CECOT. Abrego Garcia, who came to the United States illegally but was allowed to stay after a judge ruled that he was likely to be persecuted by gangs in his native El Salvador, would be the first person publicly known to be released from CECOT.
[…]
The fact that the order was issued without dissent was remarkable. The Roberts Court has indulged Trump at nearly every turn, first writing the anti-insurrection clause out of the Fourteenth Amendment and then foiling his federal prosecution by inventing a grant of presidential immunity with no basis in the text of the Constitution. Justice John Roberts and his colleagues have deployed a selective proceduralism to avoid directly confronting the Trump administration, one that contrasts with their alacrity in cases where they are seeking their preferred outcome. Yet the confrontation they sought to avoid has arrived nonetheless, and even the Trumpiest justices, such as Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, joined their colleagues in informing the Trump administration that what it had done was illegal and should be remedied.
[…]
If the administration makes an insincere effort to bring Abrego Garcia back, then those rights become the very sort of “parchment barriers” James Madison feared would be easily violated. If Trump defies the Court, there is little to restrain him from acting as an autocrat, given the supplication of Republicans in Congress.

The risks here for constitutional government are tremendous. Yet even if this case now unfolds in the ideal way, Trump’s aspirations toward unchecked power mean that the nation will never veer too far from the “path of perfect lawlessness,” at least not as long as he remains in office.’

The Confrontation Between Trump and the Supreme Court Has Arrived

The justices ordered the government to seek the return of a man whom it had wrongfully deported.

www.theatlantic.com

There’s no doubt that Trump will ignore the Court's ruling, lying that he ‘did his best’ to bring Abrego Garcia back, when in fact no good faith effort was made.

And Trump’s continued defiance of the courts will confirm the fact that America has become an authoritarian fascist state, ruled by a despot and autocrat, not the law.

You’re an asshole. The Administration did “seek” the alien’s return.

We don’t control decisions made by other sovereign nations.

So, stop lying your ass off in every fucking thread.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Deporting a man without due process is a legal problem.

Getting him back is a matter of international law.

This is a matter of the Administration overturning the law.

He's an illegal. He has no right to due process. He was returned to his country of origin. You only get due process if charged with a crime. He was not charged, he was DEPORTED.

It's done.

 

[struth]

Huge win for the rule of law and Trump at the scotus!

Bad day for demafacist and their pals in cartels