The Confederacy was an Evil Empire

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Very true

But there is no justification to celebrate that history

Ancestors of the Confederate states can celebrate their history. All over the world Jews, Hindus, Muslims, blacks have ancestors who were slave owners. It was a different time morally speaking in human history.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

 

[martybegan]

Your outer space type weird examples do not even flick the skin of the profession's superiority to your opinions.

Useless response is useless.

 

[martybegan]

If you don't want to work for the government, you don't have to. really sucks when the government gets in your business doesn't it?

Still doesn't make it not a mandate, and not force.

It's like when the whole BAKE OR ELSE bullshit was foisted on bakers over SSM.

 

[MarcATL]

Black people in Africa owned slaves when white people in America owned slaves.

What does that have to do w/America's responsibility to Americans for slavery in America?

 

[rightwinger]

Ancestors of the Confederate states can celebrate their history. All over the world Jews, Hindus, Muslims, blacks have ancestors who were slave owners. It was a different time morally speaking in human history.

Do the families of Nazis celebrate ?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I do not mourn the dead who fought for slavery or the Holocaust.

 

[Robert W]

How did that work out?

Thank you for asking. The ruling by the Supreme Court was later reversed when Congress created laws against slavery.

Dred Scott decision, legal case in which the U.S. Supreme Court on March 6, 1857, ruled (7–2) that a slave (Dred Scott) who had resided in a free state and territory (where slavery was prohibited) was not thereby entitled to his freedom; that African Americans were not and could never be citizens of the United States; and that the Missouri Compromise (1820), which had declared free all territories west of Missouri and north of latitude 36°30′, was unconstitutional. The decision added fuel to the sectional controversy and pushed the country closer to civil war.

The 13th Amendment was passed at the end of the Civil War before the Southern states had been restored to the Union, and should have easily passed in Congress. However, though the Senate passed it in April 1864, the House initially did not. At that point, Lincoln took an active role to ensure passage through Congress. He insisted that passage of the 13th Amendment be added to the Republican Party platform for the upcoming 1864 Presidential election. His efforts met with success when the House passed the bill in January 1865 with a vote of 119–56.

On February 1, 1865, President Abraham Lincoln approved the Joint Resolution of Congress submitting the proposed amendment to the state legislatures. The necessary number of states (three-fourths) ratified it by December 6, 1865. The 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

With the adoption of the 13th Amendment, the United States found a final constitutional solution to the issue of slavery. The 13th Amendment, along with the 14th and 15th, is one of the trio of Civil War amendments that greatly expanded the civil rights of Americans.

 

[mikegriffith1]

That may be true but that evil that formed the confederacy was the same evil that those same southern states forced on the US

"May be true"? No, it is most certainly true. Every single attack you can make on the Confederacy you can also make on the pre-1863 Union and especially on the pre-1850 Union.

Are you aware that the Confederate constitution allowed for the admission of free states into the Confederacy? Are you aware that in early 1865 the Confederacy actually began a program of gradual emancipation? Are you aware that during the Civil War the Confederacy showed much more respect for the right of a free press than did the Union under Lincoln?

It was the Union, not the Confederacy, that shut down several newspapers and jailed numerous newspaper editors for expressing anti-war views. It was the Union, not the Confederacy, that found it necessary to pro-rogue two state legislatures because the citizens in those states voted for anti-war majorities.

 

[rightwinger]

"May be true"? No, it is most certainly true. Every single attack you can make on the Confederacy you can also make on the pre-1863 Union and especially on the pre-1850 Union.

Are you aware that the Confederate constitution allowed for the admission of free states into the Confederacy? Are you aware that in early 1865 the Confederacy actually began a program of gradual emancipation? Are you aware that during the Civil War the Confederacy showed much more respect for the right of a free press than did the Union under Lincoln?

It was the Union, not the Confederacy, that shut down several newspapers and jailed numerous newspaper editors for expressing anti-war views. It was the Union, not the Confederacy, that found it necessary to pro-rogue two state legislatures because the citizens in those states voted for anti-war majorities.

Its the same thing…

The same states that formed the Confederacy, forced slavery on the Union

 

[Captain Caveman]

For over a hundred and fifty years, the legacy of the Confederacy has been sold as a noble Lost Cause of states defending their states rights.

The reality is that the Confederacy was an Evil Empire. One of the worst nations in the history of mankind.

The Confederacy was built on ensuring that the institution of slavery would exist forever,
The Confederacy kept 40 percent of its population in bondage.
The economy of the Confederacy was built around enforced free labor. Labor enforced by whip and chain.
The Confederacy used women for breeding and then sold the children.
The Confederacy considered human slaves as no more than livestock

By any valuation, this was pure EVIL and should never be defended or honored in todays society.

There are more modern day slaves today than in the Confederacy days. About 50 million.

What is modern slavery?

What is modern slavery? Find out where modern slavery happens today, the numbers behind it and who is affected.

www.antislavery.org

 

[rightwinger]

There are more modern day slaves today than in the Confederacy days.

Don’t show your stupidity

 

[Captain Caveman]

Don’t show your stupidity

Hey stupid, just updated my post. Try again, both braincells this time

Edit : OMG, did you actually believe slavery has gone

 

[rightwinger]

Hey stupid, just updated my post. Try again, both braincells this time

Edit : OMG, did you actually believe slavery has gone

Not even close to the same thing

 

[Captain Caveman]

Not even close to the same thing

So now you're back tracking

Countries that Still Have Slavery 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

I'll have a hunt about in the news. I'm sure a guy in Cumbria, UK, keep a slave locked in his shed.

 

[Captain Caveman]

rightwinger

Carlisle man admits modern slavery of victim kept in shed

Peter Swailes admits a slavery charge after the man had to live in the outbuilding for decades.

www.bbc.co.uk

As you can see from the link the word slavery has evolved. The BBC story is probably the definition of slavery that you're stuck at.

 

[Obiwan]

For over a hundred and fifty years, the legacy of the Confederacy has been sold as a noble Lost Cause of states defending their states rights.

The reality is that the Confederacy was an Evil Empire. One of the worst nations in the history of mankind.

The Confederacy was built on ensuring that the institution of slavery would exist forever,
The Confederacy kept 40 percent of its population in bondage.
The economy of the Confederacy was built around enforced free labor. Labor enforced by whip and chain.
The Confederacy used women for breeding and then sold the children.
The Confederacy considered human slaves as no more than livestock

By any valuation, this was pure EVIL and should never be defended or honored in todays society.

The Confederacy was also founded and run by Democrats. Thank you for admitting that your party is evil.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederacy was also founded and run by Democrats. Thank you for admitting that your party is evil.

Slavery existed for 200 years before the Democratic Party was formed

Today, Republicans defend the Confederacy

 

[Obiwan]

Slavery existed for 200 years before the Democratic Party was formed

Today, Republicans defend the Confederacy

Slavery might have existed before the Democrat Party came into being, but the Democrats embraced it. As a matter of fact, they rebelled against the US and fought a civil war in attempt to keep their slaves!

 

[Robert W]

"May be true"? No, it is most certainly true. Every single attack you can make on the Confederacy you can also make on the pre-1863 Union and especially on the pre-1850 Union.

Are you aware that the Confederate constitution allowed for the admission of free states into the Confederacy? Are you aware that in early 1865 the Confederacy actually began a program of gradual emancipation? Are you aware that during the Civil War the Confederacy showed much more respect for the right of a free press than did the Union under Lincoln?

It was the Union, not the Confederacy, that shut down several newspapers and jailed numerous newspaper editors for expressing anti-war views. It was the Union, not the Confederacy, that found it necessary to pro-rogue two state legislatures because the citizens in those states voted for anti-war majorities.

The Democrats lies are about Slavery. Lincoln stated it was not about slavery. He invaded he told the nation to put the nation back together. But he went about it wrong. He used violence to settle was a civilian issue such as voting is.