Redfish
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Saddam was a muslim----------------duh.
The Common Denominator: Islam
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Saddam was a muslim----------------duh.
Ignorance doesn't prevent you from pontificating,does it.
Educate yourself!
".... many still view it as a "peaceful religion."
Psychologists might call this cognitive dissonance — a state of mind where rational people essentially lie to themselves. But in this case, it's understandable. In our politically correct culture, criticizing any religion, even one that plots our destruction, is still taboo. And no one wants to suggest the terrorists are driven by their holy text.
"Is it true that 26 chapters of the Quran deal with jihad, a fight able-bodied believers are obligated to join (Surah 2:216), and that the text orders Muslims to "instill terror into the hearts of the unbeliever" and to "smite above their necks" (8:12)?
Is the "test" of loyalty to Allah not good acts or faith in general, but martyrdom that results from fighting unbelievers (47:4) — the only assurance of salvation in Islam (4:74; 9:111)?
Are the sins of any Muslim who becomes a martyr forgiven by the very act of being slain while slaying the unbelievers (4:96)?
And is it really true that martyrs are rewarded with virgins, among other carnal delights, in Paradise (38:51, 55:56; 55:76; 56:22)?"
osint Religion Of Peace
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It doesn't take much education to cherry pick religious texts to find phrases that fit your bias. There's probably a psychological term for that as well.
Hmmm.....earlier you claimed I hadn't studied the Q'ran.
Now you claim I've 'cherry picked'....pretty thin defense.
hmmmm....since when does "cherry picked" equal "studied"? Google is your friend. One can google phrases without ever reading or studying the original material. Doing so implies understanding - something lacking in your posts.
The "value" of what you wish to provide is more likely to be found in a box of cracker jacks
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Ignorance doesn't prevent you from pontificating,does it.
Educate yourself!
".... many still view it as a "peaceful religion."
Psychologists might call this cognitive dissonance — a state of mind where rational people essentially lie to themselves. But in this case, it's understandable. In our politically correct culture, criticizing any religion, even one that plots our destruction, is still taboo. And no one wants to suggest the terrorists are driven by their holy text.
"Is it true that 26 chapters of the Quran deal with jihad, a fight able-bodied believers are obligated to join (Surah 2:216), and that the text orders Muslims to "instill terror into the hearts of the unbeliever" and to "smite above their necks" (8:12)?
Is the "test" of loyalty to Allah not good acts or faith in general, but martyrdom that results from fighting unbelievers (47:4) — the only assurance of salvation in Islam (4:74; 9:111)?
Are the sins of any Muslim who becomes a martyr forgiven by the very act of being slain while slaying the unbelievers (4:96)?
And is it really true that martyrs are rewarded with virgins, among other carnal delights, in Paradise (38:51, 55:56; 55:76; 56:22)?"
osint Religion Of Peace
osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html'] Originally printed in Investors Business Daily, 3/27/2006
It doesn't take much education to cherry pick religious texts to find phrases that fit your bias. There's probably a psychological term for that as well.
Hmmm.....earlier you claimed I hadn't studied the Q'ran.
Now you claim I've 'cherry picked'....pretty thin defense.
hmmmm....since when does "cherry picked" equal "studied"? Google is your friend. One can google phrases without ever reading or studying the original material. Doing so implies understanding - something lacking in your posts.
The "value" of what you wish to provide is more likely to be found in a box of cracker jacks
Bet you evinced the same attitude toward the education your teachers offered.
That's, after all, what makes one a Liberal.
No. It doesn't. But you're free to believe that
Ignorance doesn't prevent you from pontificating,does it.
Educate yourself!
".... many still view it as a "peaceful religion."
Psychologists might call this cognitive dissonance — a state of mind where rational people essentially lie to themselves. But in this case, it's understandable. In our politically correct culture, criticizing any religion, even one that plots our destruction, is still taboo. And no one wants to suggest the terrorists are driven by their holy text.
"Is it true that 26 chapters of the Quran deal with jihad, a fight able-bodied believers are obligated to join (Surah 2:216), and that the text orders Muslims to "instill terror into the hearts of the unbeliever" and to "smite above their necks" (8:12)?
Is the "test" of loyalty to Allah not good acts or faith in general, but martyrdom that results from fighting unbelievers (47:4) — the only assurance of salvation in Islam (4:74; 9:111)?
Are the sins of any Muslim who becomes a martyr forgiven by the very act of being slain while slaying the unbelievers (4:96)?
And is it really true that martyrs are rewarded with virgins, among other carnal delights, in Paradise (38:51, 55:56; 55:76; 56:22)?"
osint Religion Of Peace
osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html']osint@yahoogroups.com[/email]/msg19921.html'] Originally printed in Investors Business Daily, 3/27/2006
It doesn't take much education to cherry pick religious texts to find phrases that fit your bias. There's probably a psychological term for that as well.
Hmmm.....earlier you claimed I hadn't studied the Q'ran.
Now you claim I've 'cherry picked'....pretty thin defense.
hmmmm....since when does "cherry picked" equal "studied"? Google is your friend. One can google phrases without ever reading or studying the original material. Doing so implies understanding - something lacking in your posts.
The "value" of what you wish to provide is more likely to be found in a box of cracker jacks
Bet you evinced the same attitude toward the education your teachers offered.
That's, after all, what makes one a Liberal.
Where do you get your fortune cookies from? They're far more interesting than the ones I get....
At any rate - I'm willing to bet that the Bible can (and has been) just as easily cherry picked with an eye towards extremism as the Quran has and cherry picking does not equal understanding - just the skillful taking out of context appropriate phrases. I'll bypass your nifty educational efforts and leave you to your fortune cookie enterprise.
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hmmmm....since when does "cherry picked" equal "studied"? Google is your friend. One can google phrases without ever reading or studying the original material. Doing so implies understanding - something lacking in your posts.
The "value" of what you wish to provide is more likely to be found in a box of cracker jacks
Bet you evinced the same attitude toward the education your teachers offered.
That's, after all, what makes one a Liberal.
Where do you get your fortune cookies from? They're far more interesting than the ones I get....
At any rate - I'm willing to bet that the Bible can (and has been) just as easily cherry picked with an eye towards extremism as the Quran has and cherry picking does not equal understanding - just the skillful taking out of context appropriate phrases. I'll bypass your nifty educational efforts and leave you to your fortune cookie enterprise.
Pretty stupid post.
I've taken nothing "just the skillful taking out of context."
The Q'ran is a book about making war.
"The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30 [9:29])."
Geert Wilders 8217 Parliamentary Speech On The Koran Pat Dollard
That is not the case with the Bible.
Ready to admit that you are a dunce?
PAM GELLER as a news source?? Are you shittin' me?
>> There is no doubt that ISIS is persecuting the Christians in Mosul and other areas of Iraq. But almost all have already fled the city and the few that remain are continuing to leave the area. There are, however, journalists from Iraq and Western news agencies still in the city. Why have none of them taken photographs of these atrocities, or even reported on their occurrence? Why have such stories not been reported by the Christians who have fled to the cities controlled by the Kurds?
If Arabo was able to get news of such atrocities in San Diego, why has no one else heard stories of this ongoing tragedy?
Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child . But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”
One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq. The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.
.....UPDATE #1: Many people in the comments and on TGC Twitter feed have mentioned the picture of the headless girl shown on Catholic Online. The story about the girl goes back to 2013. It's claimed she is a Muslim Syrian girl named Fatima Meghlaj and that she was decapitated when Syrian forces shelled her home. << ---- Fact Checker: Is ISIS Beheading Children? (more at the link)
If Arabo was able to get news of such atrocities in San Diego, why has no one else heard stories of this ongoing tragedy?
Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child . But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”
One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq. The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.
.....UPDATE #1: Many people in the comments and on TGC Twitter feed have mentioned the picture of the headless girl shown on Catholic Online. The story about the girl goes back to 2013. It's claimed she is a Muslim Syrian girl named Fatima Meghlaj and that she was decapitated when Syrian forces shelled her home. << ---- Fact Checker: Is ISIS Beheading Children? (more at the link)
Come on, use your head. What do terrorists want? Terror. And that means perceptions. By salivating on command some of y'all are in effect enabling them. Stop swallowing everything plunked in front of you without asking who made it. This tactic is as old as dirt and twice as dirty.
"Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, `Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally, we shall insist on seeing everything - God and our friends and ourselves included - as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred." - C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (ibid)
>> This story seems to have originated from a Skype interview with a man named Mark Arabo that was broadcast on CNN. Arabo reported that ISIS had “systematically beheaded children” and put their heads on sticks in a park in Mosul, Iraq. As far as we can tell, no other sources have corroborated Arabo’s claims although the phrase “systematically beheaded children” has been making the rounds of media echo chambers. Google is now saturated with sites claiming children were beheaded in Mosul.___________________________________________
We noticed the story going viral so we looked for pictures or videos and checked with sources in several countries in the Middle East. Those we asked had not heard any news about beheaded children and we found zero pictures or videos of kids’ heads on sticks anywhere in the world. We can’t verify that the news is false, however it’s highly unusual that not one person in Mosul took a photo or video if such a ghoulish display is actually out in public there. << --- Fake ISIS News
-- the site contains plenty of fake news items with original sources that were perverted from the originals
For instance:
Bullshit. It's a poetry competition and she flubbed her poem.
Truth is the first casualty folks. Demonization happens for a calculated and manipulative reason. God DAMN it, feel a clue when you're being played like a three dollar banjo.
Pam Geller of all creatures as a "news" source. Pam ******* Geller. Jesus Christ in a hang glider...
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Always amusing when the insipid...you.....attack the source.
Obviously means you can't deny the message.
Always amusing when the insipid...you.....attack the source.
Obviously means you can't deny the message.
I just did. Like it or lump it.
Same thing I pointed out to your pointy little head when this thread started.
Density....
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- #169
Always amusing when the insipid...you.....attack the source.
Obviously means you can't deny the message.
I just did. Like it or lump it.
Same thing I pointed out to your pointy little head when this thread started.
Density....
You can run but you can't hide.
hmmmm....since when does "cherry picked" equal "studied"? Google is your friend. One can google phrases without ever reading or studying the original material. Doing so implies understanding - something lacking in your posts.
The "value" of what you wish to provide is more likely to be found in a box of cracker jacks
Bet you evinced the same attitude toward the education your teachers offered.
That's, after all, what makes one a Liberal.
Where do you get your fortune cookies from? They're far more interesting than the ones I get....
At any rate - I'm willing to bet that the Bible can (and has been) just as easily cherry picked with an eye towards extremism as the Quran has and cherry picking does not equal understanding - just the skillful taking out of context appropriate phrases. I'll bypass your nifty educational efforts and leave you to your fortune cookie enterprise.
Pretty stupid post.
I've taken nothing "just the skillful taking out of context."
The Q'ran is a book about making war.
"The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30 [9:29])."
Geert Wilders 8217 Parliamentary Speech On The Koran Pat Dollard
That is not the case with the Bible.
Ready to admit that you are a dunce?
Geert Wilders??? Seriously? Ok. You've lost all credibility. That would be like using a quote from a neo-Nazi to bolster an antisemitic claim.
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hmmmm....since when does "cherry picked" equal "studied"? Google is your friend. One can google phrases without ever reading or studying the original material. Doing so implies understanding - something lacking in your posts.
The "value" of what you wish to provide is more likely to be found in a box of cracker jacks
Bet you evinced the same attitude toward the education your teachers offered.
That's, after all, what makes one a Liberal.
Where do you get your fortune cookies from? They're far more interesting than the ones I get....
At any rate - I'm willing to bet that the Bible can (and has been) just as easily cherry picked with an eye towards extremism as the Quran has and cherry picking does not equal understanding - just the skillful taking out of context appropriate phrases. I'll bypass your nifty educational efforts and leave you to your fortune cookie enterprise.
Pretty stupid post.
I've taken nothing "just the skillful taking out of context."
The Q'ran is a book about making war.
"The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30 [9:29])."
Geert Wilders 8217 Parliamentary Speech On The Koran Pat Dollard
That is not the case with the Bible.
Ready to admit that you are a dunce?
Geert Wilders??? Seriously? Ok. You've lost all credibility. That would be like using a quote from a neo-Nazi to bolster an antisemitic claim.
Where did you learn that commenting about the messenger is the equivalent to rebutting the message???
Liberal academy?
Of course....if you'd like to show how the quote is incorrect......????
Not happening.
PAM GELLER as a news source?? Are you shittin' me?
>> There is no doubt that ISIS is persecuting the Christians in Mosul and other areas of Iraq. But almost all have already fled the city and the few that remain are continuing to leave the area. There are, however, journalists from Iraq and Western news agencies still in the city. Why have none of them taken photographs of these atrocities, or even reported on their occurrence? Why have such stories not been reported by the Christians who have fled to the cities controlled by the Kurds?
If Arabo was able to get news of such atrocities in San Diego, why has no one else heard stories of this ongoing tragedy?
Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child . But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”
One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq. The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.
.....UPDATE #1: Many people in the comments and on TGC Twitter feed have mentioned the picture of the headless girl shown on Catholic Online. The story about the girl goes back to 2013. It's claimed she is a Muslim Syrian girl named Fatima Meghlaj and that she was decapitated when Syrian forces shelled her home. << ---- Fact Checker: Is ISIS Beheading Children? (more at the link)
Come on, use your head. What do terrorists want? Terror. And that means perceptions. By salivating on command some of y'all are in effect enabling them. Stop swallowing everything plunked in front of you without asking who made it. This tactic is as old as dirt and twice as dirty.
"Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, `Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally, we shall insist on seeing everything - God and our friends and ourselves included - as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred." - C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (ibid)
___________________________________________
>> This story seems to have originated from a Skype interview with a man named Mark Arabo that was broadcast on CNN. Arabo reported that ISIS had “systematically beheaded children” and put their heads on sticks in a park in Mosul, Iraq. As far as we can tell, no other sources have corroborated Arabo’s claims although the phrase “systematically beheaded children” has been making the rounds of media echo chambers. Google is now saturated with sites claiming children were beheaded in Mosul.
We noticed the story going viral so we looked for pictures or videos and checked with sources in several countries in the Middle East. Those we asked had not heard any news about beheaded children and we found zero pictures or videos of kids’ heads on sticks anywhere in the world. We can’t verify that the news is false, however it’s highly unusual that not one person in Mosul took a photo or video if such a ghoulish display is actually out in public there. << --- Fake ISIS News
-- the site contains plenty of fake news items with original sources that were perverted from the originals
For instance:
Bullshit. It's a poetry competition and she flubbed her poem.
Truth is the first casualty folks. Demonization happens for a calculated and manipulative reason. God DAMN it, feel a clue when you're being played like a three dollar banjo.
Pam Geller of all creatures as a "news" source. Pam ******* Geller. Jesus Christ in a hang glider...
Always amusing when the insipid...you.....attack the source.
Obviously means you can't deny the message.
I just did. Like it or lump it.
Same thing I pointed out to your pointy little head when this thread started.
Density....
You can run but you can't hide.
Are you aware that you just posted that "note to self" online?
Dat's me, your personal lump of Kryptonite. Can I refill your cup?
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All I know is that I want to stop hearing from "spokesmen for the bereaved families of beheadded journalists" and start hearing from the actual families, friends, teachers, neighbors and communities who knew these men well. Until then, I'm feeling like I'm being played like a three dollar banjo.
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PAM GELLER as a news source?? Are you shittin' me?
>> There is no doubt that ISIS is persecuting the Christians in Mosul and other areas of Iraq. But almost all have already fled the city and the few that remain are continuing to leave the area. There are, however, journalists from Iraq and Western news agencies still in the city. Why have none of them taken photographs of these atrocities, or even reported on their occurrence? Why have such stories not been reported by the Christians who have fled to the cities controlled by the Kurds?
If Arabo was able to get news of such atrocities in San Diego, why has no one else heard stories of this ongoing tragedy?
Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child . But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”
One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq. The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.
.....UPDATE #1: Many people in the comments and on TGC Twitter feed have mentioned the picture of the headless girl shown on Catholic Online. The story about the girl goes back to 2013. It's claimed she is a Muslim Syrian girl named Fatima Meghlaj and that she was decapitated when Syrian forces shelled her home. << ---- Fact Checker: Is ISIS Beheading Children? (more at the link)
Come on, use your head. What do terrorists want? Terror. And that means perceptions. By salivating on command some of y'all are in effect enabling them. Stop swallowing everything plunked in front of you without asking who made it. This tactic is as old as dirt and twice as dirty.
"Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, `Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally, we shall insist on seeing everything - God and our friends and ourselves included - as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred." - C. S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (ibid)
___________________________________________
>> This story seems to have originated from a Skype interview with a man named Mark Arabo that was broadcast on CNN. Arabo reported that ISIS had “systematically beheaded children” and put their heads on sticks in a park in Mosul, Iraq. As far as we can tell, no other sources have corroborated Arabo’s claims although the phrase “systematically beheaded children” has been making the rounds of media echo chambers. Google is now saturated with sites claiming children were beheaded in Mosul.
We noticed the story going viral so we looked for pictures or videos and checked with sources in several countries in the Middle East. Those we asked had not heard any news about beheaded children and we found zero pictures or videos of kids’ heads on sticks anywhere in the world. We can’t verify that the news is false, however it’s highly unusual that not one person in Mosul took a photo or video if such a ghoulish display is actually out in public there. << --- Fake ISIS News
-- the site contains plenty of fake news items with original sources that were perverted from the originals
For instance:
Bullshit. It's a poetry competition and she flubbed her poem.
Truth is the first casualty folks. Demonization happens for a calculated and manipulative reason. God DAMN it, feel a clue when you're being played like a three dollar banjo.
Pam Geller of all creatures as a "news" source. Pam ******* Geller. Jesus Christ in a hang glider...
Always amusing when the insipid...you.....attack the source.
Obviously means you can't deny the message.
I just did. Like it or lump it.
Same thing I pointed out to your pointy little head when this thread started.
Density....
You can run but you can't hide.
Are you aware that you just posted that "note to self" online?
Dat's me, your personal lump of Kryptonite. Can I refill your cup?
Congrats! You've managed to get three gallons of stupid in a two gallon bucket!
Still trying to hide?
You haven't been able to show where the poster's quote was incorrect.....
...you've simply noted that you dislike Pam Geller.
I'm not saying that you are a moron, but maybe you should pursue things that don't require a lot of intelligence. Like coloring.
"War is Peace"...
"Freedom is Slavery"...
"Blowing a hair-on-fire sensationalist fallacy-ridden bullshit thread out of the water by exposing it for what it is is 'hiding'".....
And of course, still in the Number One spot:
"Ignorance is Strength".
The Ministry of Truth never sleeps. Which kind of explains the caliber of its content.
"Freedom is Slavery"...
"Blowing a hair-on-fire sensationalist fallacy-ridden bullshit thread out of the water by exposing it for what it is is 'hiding'".....
And of course, still in the Number One spot:
"Ignorance is Strength".
The Ministry of Truth never sleeps. Which kind of explains the caliber of its content.
hmmmm....since when does "cherry picked" equal "studied"? Google is your friend. One can google phrases without ever reading or studying the original material. Doing so implies understanding - something lacking in your posts.
The "value" of what you wish to provide is more likely to be found in a box of cracker jacks
Bet you evinced the same attitude toward the education your teachers offered.
That's, after all, what makes one a Liberal.
Where do you get your fortune cookies from? They're far more interesting than the ones I get....
At any rate - I'm willing to bet that the Bible can (and has been) just as easily cherry picked with an eye towards extremism as the Quran has and cherry picking does not equal understanding - just the skillful taking out of context appropriate phrases. I'll bypass your nifty educational efforts and leave you to your fortune cookie enterprise.
Pretty stupid post.
I've taken nothing "just the skillful taking out of context."
The Q'ran is a book about making war.
"The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30 [9:29])."
Geert Wilders 8217 Parliamentary Speech On The Koran Pat Dollard
That is not the case with the Bible.
Ready to admit that you are a dunce?
Geert Wilders??? Seriously? Ok. You've lost all credibility. That would be like using a quote from a neo-Nazi to bolster an antisemitic claim.
Where did you learn that commenting about the messenger is the equivalent to rebutting the message???
Liberal academy?
Of course....if you'd like to show how the quote is incorrect......????
Not happening.
Geert: "The Koran’s core theme is about the duty of all Muslims to fight non-Muslims; an Islamic Mein Kampf, in which fight means war, jihad. "
First - red flag language, the "poisoning of the well" by implying a similarity to Hitler and Mein Kampf.
Second - what is the Quran?
Quran - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Third - what is Mein Kampf?
Mein Kampf - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Not much similarity.
Geert: "The Koran is above all a book of war – a call to butcher non-Muslims (2:191, 3:141, 4:91, 5:3), to roast them (4:56, 69:30-69:32), and to cause bloodbaths amongst them (47:4). Jews are compared to monkeys and pigs (2:65, 5:60, 7:166), while people who believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God must according to the Koran be fought (9:30 [9:29]).""
There you go again - cherry picking a handful bits and attempting broadbrush the whole Quran with them.
You would think that if it is, "above all a book of war - a call to butcher non-Muslims" there would be tons of material there on it...at least a majority of the text devoted to it...certainly far more than the Bible.
Yet...
Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran NPR
So here we have two great holy books: one with considerably more call to genocide, murder and violence and another with a more restrictive code of warfare and Geert, through cherry picking attempts to claim that the one is inherently a book of war and the other somehow..not?
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Okay, let's look at history after the New Testament.
You had Crusades, wars that lasted for over 200 years and killed hundreds of thousands.
After the vaunted "Reformation", you had the Thirty Years War which is estimated to have had 8 million casualties using primitive weapons. Yes, it was a continent wide war over whether Jesus was made of wafers or not.
The period of colonization of the America in the name of Jesus led to the Genocide of Native American civilizations like the Aztec and Inca. But they were Genociding for Jesus.
But,whew, eventually, Christians learned that you need to fight genocidal wars over important things like land and resources, not silly Sky Fairies. Dumb Muslims fighting over sky fairies and not liking us taking their land!
JoeB131
Diamond Member
Hey, Deadfish, how about refuting what I said.
Frankly, what I just related is EXACTLY what I was taught in 12 years of Catholic School. As long as you confess and are baptized, you can have the most heinous crimes forgiven, but you are going to Hell if you don't believe in Jesus.
Were the Nuns lying to me? Well, yes, they were. And to themselves. They'd be much happier people if they had gotten some scented candles and Indigo Girl albums. Maybe drive around in a Subaru.
The stereotypical Western Liberal reaction to the dangers inherent in Islam...
...and what that gets them...
..."My own counsel will I keep, on who is to be" trusted...
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A little something from another thread, that seems appropriate here, as well.
...and what that gets them...
..."My own counsel will I keep, on who is to be" trusted...
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A little something from another thread, that seems appropriate here, as well.
JoeB131
Diamond Member
The only danger inherent is Islam is that if you invade their countries and try to take their shit, they will kill you.
Just like anyone else would.
Just like anyone else would.
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