Oddball
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No they don't.
Every dime they ever "contributed" has to first be expropriated from the pockets of the productive.
NOBODY working for The State EVER pays ANY taxes.
The collapse of Social Security; read the last sentence of the article.
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Every dime they ever "contributed" has to first be expropriated from the pockets of the productive.
NOBODY working for The State EVER pays ANY taxes.
SS is on the verge of going bankrupt because Dems allowed rampant immigration and fraud that stole hundreds of billions if not over a trillion to be stolen.
Social Security’s crisis is a year closer — and Trump’s approach will make it worse
The president and his allies claim they want to target “waste, fraud and abuse.” Such targets either don’t add up or don’t exist at all.www.msnbc.com
As usual, Democrat Presidents have to clean up the messes left by their Republican predecessors. Bill Clinton had to do it, as well as Presidents Obama and Biden. Obama and Biden had especially tough tasks as their aggressively unqualified predecessors left messes beyond the pale.
And the new Democrat president in 2029 will have a gargantuan task cleaning up after Trump. It could well take him/her two terms to repair his disasters! Trump especially likes to talk about "fraud and waste." The only problem with that is There Ain't None! And, as usual, Trump presents no Evidence to back up his many claims! Bigly!!!
DOGE found massive fraud, but I am sure there is much much more. But you grifters will never push for more audits, only more fraud which is basically a bribe to criminals to vote for Democrats.
jbrownson0831
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More fake news from HeaduphisAsss-tro.....Social Security’s crisis is a year closer — and Trump’s approach will make it worse
The president and his allies claim they want to target “waste, fraud and abuse.” Such targets either don’t add up or don’t exist at all.
As usual, Democrat Presidents have to clean up the messes left by their Republican predecessors. Bill Clinton had to do it, as well as Presidents Obama and Biden. Obama and Biden had especially tough tasks as their aggressively unqualified predecessors left messes beyond the pale.
And the new Democrat president in 2029 will have a gargantuan task cleaning up after Trump. It could well take him/her two terms to repair his disasters! Trump especially likes to talk about "fraud and waste." The only problem with that is There Ain't None! And, as usual, Trump presents no Evidence to back up his many claims! Bigly!!!
Its time has passed. It will not work without an ever expanding population.
The population is expanding. Seco day, the nation may spiral into a mess never seen if its left to end. People who paid into it their whole careers are owed their payouts.
Then the only way is to mandate wage increases bigly.
The population is not expanding. And it is going down even faster than the experts originally predicted.
That creates its own set of problems.
What are those problems?
Inflation. Retirees fixed income retirements will be at risk.
So then dont cut their social security. The world's richest nation awash in wealth can surely figure out a way to strengthen the system. If it cant that says something.
Social Security’s crisis is a year closer — and Trump’s approach will make it worse
The president and his allies claim they want to target “waste, fraud and abuse.” Such targets either don’t add up or don’t exist at all.
As usual, Democrat Presidents have to clean up the messes left by their Republican predecessors. Bill Clinton had to do it, as well as Presidents Obama and Biden. Obama and Biden had especially tough tasks as their aggressively unqualified predecessors left messes beyond the pale.
And the new Democrat president in 2029 will have a gargantuan task cleaning up after Trump. It could well take him/her two terms to repair his disasters! Trump especially likes to talk about "fraud and waste." The only problem with that is There Ain't None! And, as usual, Trump presents no Evidence to back up his many claims! Bigly!!!
Removing the cap could worsen the problem as older people could end up getting even more than they already do for less than a proper number of contributions.
That said, it really doesn't matter. Social Security, by law, has to be funded through the payroll deductions. Unless you change the law, the onlyw ay you are going to extend its life is to raise contribution percentages.
Anyone who has lived a longer life, and got a return many times more than what was put in. It still exists today. Unfortunately, many people would not live with much comfort without Social Security. The costs rose with increased taxes multiple times and raising the age also. If more resources are needed there are some ways to get more revenue. The post war generation from 1946 to 1964 are a huge generation and paid a lot into it. Now that they are retiring, they are taking a lot out of it. Generation X is half their size, and they are pulling the freight. The Millennials are the size of the 1946 to 1964 generation and more diverse. Also, angrier as they are not making as much as generations before them on average. There is Generation Z, generation alpha and Generation beta which started in January with any infants born.
LAUGHatLEFTISTS
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They should.
If millionaires pay into SS why shouldn’t they get it?
Winco
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Ohio, you are correct.
But 34 States do participate fully in SS.
In the United States, most public school teachers do pay into Social Security. However, there are a few states where some or all public school teachers do not participate in the Social Security system. Instead, they may be covered by separate state-run pension systems.
States Where Some or All Teachers Do NOT Pay into Social Security:
As of recent data, 15 states (and the District of Columbia) have at least some school districts where teachers do not pay into Social Security:
States with widespread or full exemption:
- California
- Colorado
- Illinois
- Louisiana
- Massachusetts
- Nevada
- Ohio
- Texas
States with limited or partial exemption (depends on district or employment type):
- Alaska
- Connecticut
- Georgia
- Kentucky
- Maine
- Missouri
- Rhode Island
- District of Columbia (Washington, D.C.)
If you're a teacher (or considering becoming one) in one of these states, it's critical to:Important Note: In these states, teachers may still qualify for state retirement systems, but not participating in Social Security can limit retirement flexibility and survivor benefits unless they have other covered employment.
- Check with your school district or HR office to confirm your Social Security status.
- Understand how your state pension plan works.
- Know how federal rules like the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO) might affect your Social Security benefits later if you’ve worked in both covered and non-covered jobs.
WorldWatcher
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Ohio, you are correct.
But 34 States do participate fully in SS.
In the United States, most public school teachers do pay into Social Security. However, there are a few states where some or all public school teachers do not participate in the Social Security system. Instead, they may be covered by separate state-run pension systems.
States Where Some or All Teachers Do NOT Pay into Social Security:
As of recent data, 15 states (and the District of Columbia) have at least some school districts where teachers do not pay into Social Security:
- California
- Colorado
- Illinois
- Louisiana
- Massachusetts
- Nevada
- Ohio
- Texas
- Alaska
- Connecticut
- Georgia
- Kentucky
- Maine
- Missouri
- Rhode Island
- District of Columbia (Washington, D.C.)
If you're a teacher (or considering becoming one) in one of these states, it's critical to:
- Check with your school district or HR office to confirm your Social Security status.
- Understand how your state pension plan works.
- Know how federal rules like the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and Government Pension Offset (GPO) might affect your Social Security benefits later if you’ve worked in both covered and non-covered jobs.
WEP was recently rescinded by Congress.
WW
CrusaderFrank
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Social Security’s crisis is a year closer — and Trump’s approach will make it worse
The president and his allies claim they want to target “waste, fraud and abuse.” Such targets either don’t add up or don’t exist at all.
As usual, Democrat Presidents have to clean up the messes left by their Republican predecessors. Bill Clinton had to do it, as well as Presidents Obama and Biden. Obama and Biden had especially tough tasks as their aggressively unqualified predecessors left messes beyond the pale.
And the new Democrat president in 2029 will have a gargantuan task cleaning up after Trump. It could well take him/her two terms to repair his disasters! Trump especially likes to talk about "fraud and waste." The only problem with that is There Ain't None! And, as usual, Trump presents no Evidence to back up his many claims! Bigly!!!
The AutoPen Administration strengthened Social security by giving access to SSDI to million of Illegals
WEATHER53
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Just like the eastern seaboard going under water by 2020 we’ve heard all this “the end is near” many times before including SS. You loons lap up despair
buckeye
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We should have allowed it to be privatized back in Bush II's term.
Democrats have no sense of real problems.
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