The Co2 fraud is on a roll, misdiagnosing fires, squirting bleach into coral, and fraudulently screaming "warmest ever"

[EMH]

Why was Hawaiian vegetation so dry? Hawaii gets a lot of rain. The vegetation there is usually very green and robust, and not ready to burn. It was clearly dry this summer.

Why?

Warming? Hawaii's RECORD HIGH TEMP is from 1931....

Hawaii annual temperatures and extremes

No record highs at all since the 1990s....

Hawaii is, obviously, a proxy on the temperature of the PACIFIC OCEAN, and if Hawaii is NOT WARMING, then is the Pacific???

LOL!!!!


So why were the plants dry? SAME REASON everywhere else, a growing population continues to draw more and MORE water from finite land based fresh water. Hawaii should immediately build desalination plants and seriously consider shutting off new housing and immigration for a while.

FIRES are about PLANTS LACKING WATER, not TEMPERATURE.


20 years ago, the Co2 fraud was claiming ocean "warming" was bleaching coral. In reality Thai and other fishermen were squirting actual bleach into coral to flush fish into their nets. That led to a ban on such practices, but the Co2 FRAUD lied and blamed Co2 and "warming," and clearly was never held accountable.

What bleaches coral? Squirting BLEACH into coral

Does coral bleach in warmer water? NO

Is the water even warming? NO



As we have gotten a blizzard of "warmest ever" claims from the Co2 fraud, we should ask what we have observed ourselves...


Snow in Saudi - first time in 100 years
Snow on the Hollywood sign - 30 years
Lake Tahoe froze - 30 years
RECORD COLD on Mt Washington - 90 years
Strongest decade on record for canes - still the 1940s

Nashville - didn't get to 100 this summer and looks like it won't - 100 happens about every other summer here, and you cannot claim "record warm" without it

Brutal cold seizes northeast U.S., shattering record lows

High winds and low temperatures created dangerous conditions and caused the death of an infant in Massachusetts.

www.reuters.com

And ask yourself, if this really was the "warmest ever" would we really observe all of the above???


The Co2 FRAUD has NOTHING

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO OCEAN RISE
NO BREAKOUT in CANES


and it knows it.... has known all along....

 

[Flash]

Why was Hawaiian vegetation so dry? Hawaii gets a lot of rain. The vegetation there is usually very green and robust, and not ready to burn. It was clearly dry this summer.

Why?

Warming? Hawaii's RECORD HIGH TEMP is from 1931....

Hawaii annual temperatures and extremes

No record highs at all since the 1990s....

Hawaii is, obviously, a proxy on the temperature of the PACIFIC OCEAN, and if Hawaii is NOT WARMING, then is the Pacific???

LOL!!!!


So why were the plants dry? SAME REASON everywhere else, a growing population continues to draw more and MORE water from finite land based fresh water. Hawaii should immediately build desalination plants and seriously consider shutting off new housing and immigration for a while.

FIRES are about PLANTS LACKING WATER, not TEMPERATURE.


20 years ago, the Co2 fraud was claiming ocean "warming" was bleaching coral. In reality Thai and other fishermen were squirting actual bleach into coral to flush fish into their nets. That led to a ban on such practices, but the Co2 FRAUD lied and blamed Co2 and "warming," and clearly was never held accountable.

What bleaches coral? Squirting BLEACH into coral

Does coral bleach in warmer water? NO

Is the water even warming? NO



As we have gotten a blizzard of "warmest ever" claims from the Co2 fraud, we should ask what we have observed ourselves...


Snow in Saudi - first time in 100 years
Snow on the Hollywood sign - 30 years
Lake Tahoe froze - 30 years
RECORD COLD on Mt Washington - 90 years
Strongest decade on record for canes - still the 1940s

Nashville - didn't get to 100 this summer and looks like it won't - 100 happens about every other summer here, and you cannot claim "record warm" without it

Brutal cold seizes northeast U.S., shattering record lows

High winds and low temperatures created dangerous conditions and caused the death of an infant in Massachusetts.

www.reuters.com

And ask yourself, if this really was the "warmest ever" would we really observe all of the above???


The Co2 FRAUD has NOTHING

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO OCEAN RISE
NO BREAKOUT in CANES


and it knows it.... has known all along....

We catch these Environmental Wackos lying about their silly AGW scam all the time.

 

[elektra]

Why was Hawaiian vegetation so dry? Hawaii gets a lot of rain. The vegetation there is usually very green and robust, and not ready to burn. It was clearly dry this summer.

So why were the plants dry? SAME REASON everywhere else, a growing population continues to draw more and MORE water from finite land based fresh water. Hawaii should immediately build desalination plants and seriously consider shutting off new housing and immigration for a while.

The wells where one would draw water are much deeper than the roots of any plant.
Land based water is refreshed by the rain, hence it is not finite.

surprisingly, there is little rainfall on Maui.

Why are there fires on Maui, or anywhere. Lack of proper management of the vegetation

 

[surada]

Why was Hawaiian vegetation so dry? Hawaii gets a lot of rain. The vegetation there is usually very green and robust, and not ready to burn. It was clearly dry this summer.

Why?

Warming? Hawaii's RECORD HIGH TEMP is from 1931....

Hawaii annual temperatures and extremes

No record highs at all since the 1990s....

Hawaii is, obviously, a proxy on the temperature of the PACIFIC OCEAN, and if Hawaii is NOT WARMING, then is the Pacific???

LOL!!!!


So why were the plants dry? SAME REASON everywhere else, a growing population continues to draw more and MORE water from finite land based fresh water. Hawaii should immediately build desalination plants and seriously consider shutting off new housing and immigration for a while.

FIRES are about PLANTS LACKING WATER, not TEMPERATURE.


20 years ago, the Co2 fraud was claiming ocean "warming" was bleaching coral. In reality Thai and other fishermen were squirting actual bleach into coral to flush fish into their nets. That led to a ban on such practices, but the Co2 FRAUD lied and blamed Co2 and "warming," and clearly was never held accountable.

What bleaches coral? Squirting BLEACH into coral

Does coral bleach in warmer water? NO

Is the water even warming? NO



As we have gotten a blizzard of "warmest ever" claims from the Co2 fraud, we should ask what we have observed ourselves...


Snow in Saudi - first time in 100 years
Snow on the Hollywood sign - 30 years
Lake Tahoe froze - 30 years
RECORD COLD on Mt Washington - 90 years
Strongest decade on record for canes - still the 1940s

Nashville - didn't get to 100 this summer and looks like it won't - 100 happens about every other summer here, and you cannot claim "record warm" without it

Brutal cold seizes northeast U.S., shattering record lows

High winds and low temperatures created dangerous conditions and caused the death of an infant in Massachusetts.

www.reuters.com

And ask yourself, if this really was the "warmest ever" would we really observe all of the above???


The Co2 FRAUD has NOTHING

NO WARMING in the ATMOSPHERE
NO WARMING in the OCEANS
NO ONGOING NET ICE MELT
NO OCEAN RISE
NO BREAKOUT in CANES


and it knows it.... has known all along....

It's rare but it does snow in Arabia more often than every 100 years.

 

[Unkotare]

The wells where one would draw water are much deeper than the roots of any plant.
Land based water is refreshed by the rain, hence it is not finite.

surprisingly, there is little rainfall on Maui.

Why are there fires on Maui, or anywhere. Lack of proper management of the vegetation

He'll say "It's because of DA JOOOOSSS! It's all about DA JOOOOSSSSS!"

 

[Rigby5]

Global warming not only has been proven, by satellite, thermometers, melting ice, dying plants, etc., but we also know it is CO2.

The greenhouse effect is not just made up, but well proven.
The global effect is slightly different than a greenhouse really, but the point is CO2 causes heat retention.
It is easily proven by comparing 2 greenhouses, where one is low in CO2 and the other high in CO2.
The CO2 one will retain much more heat.

If you want an explanation, it is simple.
In coming solar heat can not leave the earth by conduction because space is a nonconducting vacuum.
The only way heat energy can leave is the same way it came in, as photonic radiation (infrared light).
But if there is CO2 in the upper atmosphere fringe to space, then photonic energy is converted to vibratory heat, and can not leave.

That is the cause of Venus being 870 degrees F.
Heat can not escape due to the high greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

 

[elektra]

Global warming not only has been proven, by satellite, thermometers, melting ice, dying plants, etc., but we also know it is CO2.

The greenhouse effect is not just made up, but well proven.
The global effect is slightly different than a greenhouse really, but the point is CO2 causes heat retention.
It is easily proven by comparing 2 greenhouses, where one is low in CO2 and the other high in CO2.
The CO2 one will retain much more heat.

If you want an explanation, it is simple.
In coming solar heat can not leave the earth by conduction because space is a nonconducting vacuum.
The only way heat energy can leave is the same way it came in, as photonic radiation (infrared light).
But if there is CO2 in the upper atmosphere fringe to space, then photonic energy is converted to vibratory heat, and can not leave.

That is the cause of Venus being 870 degrees F.
Heat can not escape due to the high greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

Of all the dumb posts on CO2, this one is at the top.

Venus is closer to the sun, it should be hot.

Venus's atmosphere is 90xs more dense than earth, that increased pressure creates heat.

Venus, the atmosphere is very dense. It would crush a person. Flatten them like a pancake.

It ain't the CO2, they are closer to the sun. Couple more sun with heavy atmosphere, you get much more heat. Now let us add a day that last 224 earth days.

CO2 is insignificant

 

[ReinyDays]

surprisingly, there is little rainfall on Maui.

My understanding is that depends on which side of the island you're on ... they all have "wet-side" and "dry-side" ...

My guess is the same problem as in California ... too many people in the brush playing with matches ...

 

[surada]

My understanding is that depends on which side of the island you're on ... they all have "wet-side" and "dry-side" ...

My guess is the same problem as in California ... too many people in the brush playing with matches ...

Fanned by heavy winds.

 

[ReinyDays]

Fanned by heavy winds.

Here come those Santa Ana winds again ...

 

[elektra]

My understanding is that depends on which side of the island you're on ... they all have "wet-side" and "dry-side" ...

My guess is the same problem as in California ... too many people in the brush playing with matches ...

yes one side gets more rain than the other, and I was surprised at how little it is

 

[elektra]

Here come those Santa Ana winds again ...

I like the santa ana winds, cold desert air that...

 

[ReinyDays]

yes one side gets more rain than the other, and I was surprised at how little it is

I'm impressed if you think 8 to 10 meters of annual rain is "little" ... "Rain Atlas of Hawaii" ...

 

[elektra]

I'm impressed if you think 8 to 10 meters of annual rain is "little" ... "Rain Atlas of Hawaii" ...

You must of forgot we were discussing one side of Maui, not the rain atlas of Hawaii.

10 inches of a rain a year is very little.

 

[EMH]

Land based water is refreshed by the rain, hence it is not finite

Rain is not infinite. That vegetation was dry and ready to burn. Had Hawaii some desalination plants, the vegetation would have not been as dry. Desal ensures that droughts, as Hawaii is having this year, do not end up like what just happened, which NEVER happened, because it is a

DROUGHT

AND

HUMANS ARE SUCKING TOO MUCH WATER FROM NATURE

 

[ReinyDays]

You must of forgot we were discussing one side of Maui, not the rain atlas of Hawaii.

10 inches of a rain a year is very little.

View attachment 814038

I was discussing "wet side" and "dry side" dynamics ... are wildfires natural to Hawaii, or is this a man-made disaster? ... PBS is reporting these lands are abandoned agricultural plots left to grow unattended ... too much fuel ... one spark during a windstorms and ...

... poof ...

The whole place is gone now ... I'm curius because some of these places that burned down were said to be from the 18th Century ... that's a long time between fire storms ... nothing in California lasts that long in fire country ...

 

[EMH]

I was discussing "wet side" and "dry side" dynamics ... are wildfires natural to Hawaii, or is this a man-made disaster? ... PBS is reporting these lands are abandoned agricultural plots left to grow unattended ... too much fuel ... one spark during a windstorms and ...

... poof ...

The whole place is gone now ... I'm curius because some of these places that burned down were said to be from the 18th Century ... that's a long time between fire storms ... nothing in California lasts that long in fire country ...

Hard to believe this just happened that way. There is too much $$ funding the Co2 fraud that has nothing. This is where they get headlines. Squirting bleach in coral and rigging Hawaii to burn to blame their fraud. RFKjr is claiming something to the extent that the foliage that torched the worst is not native to Hawaii....

 

[EMH]

Did the Co2 FRAUD rig the Hawaii fires??




Did the Co2 fraud deliberately bring in "invasive alien grasses" for the purpose of torching Hawaii and blaming the Co2 FRAUD for it???


With hundreds of billions $$ to spend defending a complete and total hoax, the Co2 fraud will try anything, and it cares not what it harms in the process.

 

[elektra]

Rain is not infinite. That vegetation was dry and ready to burn. Had Hawaii some desalination plants, the vegetation would have not been as dry. Desal ensures that droughts, as Hawaii is having this year, do not end up like what just happened, which NEVER happened, because it is a

DROUGHT

AND

HUMANS ARE SUCKING TOO MUCH WATER FROM NATURE

where do you get your ideas about desal and drought?

 

[elektra]

Hawaiian fires kill 80 people. Tragic. Fueled by fires in abandoned farm land. Yet, 80 people dont live in abandoned farmland.

What makes me wonder about competence, these people live on an island with a volcano. How many people will die if that volcano erupts? Why are there not fire breaks? Evacuation routes? Redundant sirens, warning systems?

A volcanic island where the people are not ready for fire?