The bible and magical thinking

[zaangalewa]

Is there any question why America is in trouble in science and critical thinking skills?

True liberation from this magical thinking and using the bible to support it comes when we realize that, first of all, we are thinking magically, and second, that the bible if read a certain way supports a magical worldview.

When will we stop looking to the bible for permission to believe what we know to be true? You can’t argue with Reality. Reality always wins. The debates that continue to look for validation in the bible are hopelessly trapped in magical thinking.


the bible and magical thinking

The concept "magical thinking" is a concept of psychology. Children need a period in their life called "magical thinking" - or with other words: People who are killing Santa Clause - by the way: Santa Clause is a reality in many forms - are killing in a psychological way the own children, so their children will become sick grown ups. That's the reality you are ignoring in your form of belief in the existance of not-god. I would say if the belief in the reality of wonderless atheists would win in the reality simulators of all human beings, then no one would know furthermore what to do but everyone would know what no one has not to do never. The film "Don't believe in unicorns!" is one of the most boring and most stupid films the world ever saw. Do you know for example that a unicorn has two horns if it is angry? So if you ever will meet a unicorn in your life - what seems to be impossible as long as you don't believe in unicorns and unicorns don't believe in you - then don't touch it, if it has two horns.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Is there any question why America is in trouble in science and critical thinking skills?

True liberation from this magical thinking and using the bible to support it comes when we realize that, first of all, we are thinking magically, and second, that the bible if read a certain way supports a magical worldview.

When will we stop looking to the bible for permission to believe what we know to be true? You can’t argue with Reality. Reality always wins. The debates that continue to look for validation in the bible are hopelessly trapped in magical thinking.


the bible and magical thinking

I always love being told about reality by people who don't understand basic biology as taught in high school, and believe any alarmist theory espoused on the cover of the magazines in the supermarket checkout line, so long as they claim a "scientific consensus".

 

[Steven_R]

Is there any question why America is in trouble in science and critical thinking skills?

True liberation from this magical thinking and using the bible to support it comes when we realize that, first of all, we are thinking magically, and second, that the bible if read a certain way supports a magical worldview.

When will we stop looking to the bible for permission to believe what we know to be true? You can’t argue with Reality. Reality always wins. The debates that continue to look for validation in the bible are hopelessly trapped in magical thinking.


the bible and magical thinking

It didn't seem to negatively affect Sir Isaac Newton and many other brilliant scientists who have contributed to our scientific knowledge base.

And people like Isaac Newton and Galileo and Copernicus lived in a world when the existence of God was just a given. They believed in a God because they literally could not conceive of a world without God. It was just a mindset.

 

[there4eyeM]

In a similar way, the constructors of America's founding documents used the metaphor of a creator because that was the language and thinking of the time.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In a similar way, the constructors of America's founding documents used the metaphor of a creator because that was the language and thinking of the time.

They weren't using it as a metaphor. They were stating it as a fact as they understood it.

 

[zaangalewa]

... And people like Isaac Newton and Galileo and Copernicus lived in a world when the existence of God was just a given. They believed in a God because they literally could not conceive of a world without God. It was just a mindset.

Their "mindset" was: "There's only one truth" (because there's only one god). The other mindset is "There are many truthes" (because there are many gods or because there are many people). Still today a paradigma of science is "There's only one truth". A truth in one science is not able to be in the opposit of a truth in another science. Another paradigma is: "The truth exists independent from human beings in the reality all around". The reality all around is the word of god all around - his creation. Or with other words: The world all around is real and not only an illusion. God is not a liar. Otherwise I could be only your illusion and you would think on your own the strange text of this message. But you normally don't think in the way I am thinking. I am not a native english speaker. Our common truth depends not on your language or my language or our thoughts and agreements or disagreements. What's true depends on his spirit and creation.

 

[irosie91]

... And people like Isaac Newton and Galileo and Copernicus lived in a world when the existence of God was just a given. They believed in a God because they literally could not conceive of a world without God. It was just a mindset.

Their "mindset" was: "There's only one truth" (because there's only one god). The other mindset is "There are many truthes" (because there are many gods or because there are many people). Still today a paradigma of science is "There's only one truth".

Heisenberg was UNCERTAIN. -------and now------we got CHAOS

 

[Steven_R]

Heisenberg was driving down the highway when he gets pulled over by a cop. The cop walks up to Heisenberg's window and says "do you know just how fast you were going?" Heisenberg replies "no, but I can tell you exactly where I was at the time."

 

[irosie91]

Heisenberg was driving down the highway when he gets pulled over by a cop. The cop walks up to Heisenberg's window and says "do you know just how fast you were going?" Heisenberg replies "no, but I can tell you exactly where I was at the time."

I LOVE THAT ONE.........Long ago----my justification for my general
sloppiness was "IT'S MY CONTRIBUTION TO ENTROPY"---<<
not as good as yours

 

[hadit]

No day is complete without the required Guano anti-religion thread

One does note a singular obsession, doesn't one?

 

[hadit]

Insisting that only those things exist that can be replicated in a lab is no more substantive than two Amazonian tribesmen discussing how retarded one of their fellow tribesmen is for saying he saw a giant shiny bird fly over a mountain, making a loud noise but not moving its wings. Obviously, he was hallucinating and needs to be confined for his own good.

 

[G.T.]

Mormonism endorsed plural wives, joseph smith was a pedophile and convicted felon.

Nothing less noble than a mormon, save for perhaps scientologists or jihadis

 

[Abishai100]

Stamping the Sophists


We could talk about the relevance of Sophist arguments, which seems to invoke modernism itself. Modernism partially involves a discussion of 'education access,' which is a component of populism. Populism infers a philosophy colloquialization for traffic-profiteerism dialogue (i.e., Facebook).

Colloquialization of philosophy requires a focus on economics, and such a focus makes inter-religious debate more welcoming, since everyone cares about money.

We all know that religion is about mysticism, and hence the Bible must contain ideas about the supernatural and magic. However, honing in on the 'value' of Biblical presentations of philosophy that delve into the fantastic (or magical) suggests a social profitability of 'philosophy flexing.'

You can purchase Braille Bibles on the Internet today, suggesting that 'access' to socially relevant lifestyle mediation is now a technological development (i.e., eSurance).

Why would an employee of BP (British Petroleum) brag to his non-BP friends, "Since I work for an eco-intensive company, I carry an eco-branded gadget such as a solar-powered calculator to flex my conversational muscle"? Money is everything, as the Bible says, and that is true now more than ever.

What would the Bible say about a profiteerism-philosophy Hollywood (USA) movie such as "The Last Tycoon" (1976)? How do everyday people talk about 'fashion functionalism?' Why is the New Balance sneaker-shoe company symbolic of 'modern jargon'?








New Balance (Wikipedia)

The Last Tycoon (Film)

 

[there4eyeM]

In a similar way, the constructors of America's founding documents used the metaphor of a creator because that was the language and thinking of the time.

They weren't using it as a metaphor. They were stating it as a fact as they understood it.

...but it is a metaphor.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In a similar way, the constructors of America's founding documents used the metaphor of a creator because that was the language and thinking of the time.

They weren't using it as a metaphor. They were stating it as a fact as they understood it.

...but it is a metaphor.

You might want to look up the definition of "metaphor". It doesn't mean what you appear to think it does.

 

[Moonglow]

In a similar way, the constructors of America's founding documents used the metaphor of a creator because that was the language and thinking of the time.

They weren't using it as a metaphor. They were stating it as a fact as they understood it.

...but it is a metaphor.

You might want to look up the definition of "metaphor". It doesn't mean what you appear to think it does.

It does if you don't know...

 

[there4eyeM]

It is not I who does not understand.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Is there any question why America is in trouble in science and critical thinking skills?

True liberation from this magical thinking and using the bible to support it comes when we realize that, first of all, we are thinking magically, and second, that the bible if read a certain way supports a magical worldview.

When will we stop looking to the bible for permission to believe what we know to be true? You can’t argue with Reality. Reality always wins. The debates that continue to look for validation in the bible are hopelessly trapped in magical thinking.


the bible and magical thinking

we refuse to accept as scripture what our mind cannot grasp, ehh guno

 

[zaangalewa]

... And people like Isaac Newton and Galileo and Copernicus lived in a world when the existence of God was just a given. They believed in a God because they literally could not conceive of a world without God. It was just a mindset.

Their "mindset" was: "There's only one truth" (because there's only one god). The other mindset is "There are many truthes" (because there are many gods or because there are many people). Still today a paradigma of science is "There's only one truth".

Heisenberg was UNCERTAIN. -------and now------we got CHAOS

Heisenberg found out that we are only able to measure (to see, to recognize) either the impulse or the location of a particle - so we are able to know the position - but in this case not the impulse - or we know the impulse but not the location or we know something about both - but not as acurate as we like to know this. We are not able to know both parameters the same time because nothing in this universe is able to know this. This what we "see" is the reality god created. If we don't look everything seems to be possible - but if we knock at the door and open it then we are forcing the universe to show us something. We are somehow deciding what we like to use: impulse (energy) or location (position).

 

[zaangalewa]

Heisenberg was driving down the highway when he gets pulled over by a cop. The cop walks up to Heisenberg's window and says "do you know just how fast you were going?" Heisenberg replies "no, but I can tell you exactly where I was at the time."

Why did he ask? If Heisenberg used a very very very ... very small car and he knew the position then the policeman was not able to measure the speed.