the actual rights of illegal aliens

[Edgetho]

 

[Edgetho]

 

[BluesLegend]

I agree that they have no rights other than what was outlined in the op. I agree that our governments, federal or state, should not be spending on them what they are, those funds should go to help American citizens. The dems only support it and encourage it for one reason, their power, that's it. The rest are useful idiots who 'feel sorry' for these people and feel like they should be free from having to obey our laws, unlike any conservative or R in the country, where they change laws in order to prosecute. Some are 'human filth', but not all, some of them come here for a better life. But, be that as it may, they have no legal right to do so, there are ways to immigrate legally, and that's what they should do.

That's a good point, can an American break and ignore all these laws and get away with it?? Hell no we can't. But these illegal assholes come here, break all our laws, kill and mangle Americans driving around drunk as F with no license, no insurance in their shit mobiles and they are immune from the law.

 

[jc456]

They put it all on hold until they had a chance to hear the case just like the lower court did.

they stayed the lower court right? It was unanimous at that right?

 

[jc456]

An administrative warrant is not needed to detain an illegal in public

why would they need more than a regular citizen? I asked that in another thread and no response was received.

 

[jc456]

The ninth circuit is conservative

dishonesty doesn't suit you!

 

[Rawley]

why would they need more than a regular citizen? I asked that in another thread and no response was received.

Typically they get an administrative warrant when the they are going into courthouses or waiting at jails and have specifically identified illegals they are going after.

But if they have a warrant for one, they can absolutely detain all his illegal buddies at the Home Depot parking lot.

 

[Rawley]

The ninth circuit is conservative

Wow. Put down the bong.

 

[Failzero]

In California without Real ID they can not ( Buy Firearms or Ammo )

 

[jc456]

Wow. Put down the bong.

she's in the middle of autoerotic asphyxiation

 

[g5000]

Since leftards keep pining about rights that don't exist, it seems appropriate to set the record straight.

What are the actual rights of illegal aliens?

Know Your Rights | Immigrants' Rights | ACLU

Regardless of your immigration status, you have guaranteed rights under the Constitution. Learn more here about your rights as an immigrant, and how to express them.

www.aclu.org

Here's how it plays.

If you are inside your home, or inside someone else's home, a judicial warrant is required for agents to gain access. Without a judicial warrant you are not required to open your door, and agents are in violation if they break in.

If you are outside in public, agents can stop you at any time for any reason. An administrative warrant is sufficient to arrest you and detain you on the spot.

In either case, you have the right to remain silent and the right to access legal counsel. Agents may not deprive you of property. If you own a home it can not be taken away from you. Anything removed from you upon arrest must be returned to you upon release.

All persons have the right to access emergency medical care, whether detained or not.

Beyond that, illegal aliens have no rights. There is no right to work, and no right to vote. There is no right to welfare and no right to government funded medical care (emergency or otherwise).

Illegal aliens only have the minimal constitutional rights afforded to all persons in the United States. And there are even exceptions to those, if you engage in terrorism or otherwise threaten another person's life.

So you agree ICE has been violating immigrants rights.

Thank you.

 

[BULLDOG]

Going from memory only, I believe Ronald Reagan signed that monstrosity into law. He did not, however, have to face an invasion from south of the border.

That law is, first and foremost, the reason our Health Care in this Country SUCKS ASS.

That law is, first and foremost, the law. You can't pretend it doesn't exist or wish it into the cornfield.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law that requires most hospitals to provide medical screening and stabilizing treatment, regardless of a patient's ability to pay or insurance status, when they present with an emergency medical condition or are in active labor. This means that if someone comes to an emergency room needing help, the hospital must assess their condition and, if an emergency exists, provide the necessary care to stabilize them before potentially transferring them to another facility.

So? Illegals can still be deported.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Going from memory only, I believe Ronald Reagan signed that monstrosity into law. He did not, however, have to face an invasion from south of the border.

That law is, first and foremost, the reason our Health Care in this Country SUCKS ASS.

Health care in this country is outstanding and the envy of the world. I am a living medical miracle in that I have the liver that belonged to a 17-year-old young man who died halfway across this country, and I am alive today because of it. Your problem is not knowing the difference in health care and health insurance.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The lower court ruled the same way until they heard the case.

Why do you lie?

 

[martybegan]

In outlining the duties of government and the Rights of The People, the Constitution necessarily said that ALL The People of The United States, be they Citizen or not, are covered.

That is because, in those Days, not everybody lived in an Actual Admitted State. And Citizenship wasn't defined until the 14th Amendment. Settlers in the Michigan Territory, Pioneers in the Great Plains..... Few of them lived in an Admited State.

The People might have lived in a Territory or a Protectorate and didn't have full citizenship but they did need to be protected because the US still had Marshalls and Army Troops governing them.

Those days are mosty gone and SCOTUS needs to get off its Collective Lazy ASSES and do a better job of bringing Citizenship, it's rights, protections and DUTIES into the 21st Century.

The vast majority of Laws that the Lazy-Ass Hacks-In-Black use are from the 18th and 19th Centuries, birthright citizenship among them.

Things have changed since then.

The Judicial Branch just simply SUCKS ass. They make shit up as they go along and it needs to stop.

We need some clarity so we keep dimocrap scum from screrwing the whole country every time they steal an election. Which is the only way they get elected.

Or we can do it the hard but far more permanent way are call for an Article 5 Convention.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

In outlining the duties of government and the Rights of The People, the Constitution necessarily said that ALL The People of The United States, be they Citizen or not, are covered.

That is because, in those Days, not everybody lived in an Actual Admitted State. And Citizenship wasn't defined until the 14th Amendment. Settlers in the Michigan Territory, Pioneers in the Great Plains..... Few of them lived in an Admited State.

The People might have lived in a Territory or a Protectorate and didn't have full citizenship but they did need to be protected because the US still had Marshalls and Army Troops governing them.

Those days are mosty gone and SCOTUS needs to get off its Collective Lazy ASSES and do a better job of bringing Citizenship, it's rights, protections and DUTIES into the 21st Century.

The vast majority of Laws that the Lazy-Ass Hacks-In-Black use are from the 18th and 19th Centuries, birthright citizenship among them.

Things have changed since then.

The Judicial Branch just simply SUCKS ass. They make shit up as they go along and it needs to stop.

We need some clarity so we keep dimocrap scum from screrwing the whole country every time they steal an election. Which is the only way they get elected.

Courts do not create laws. That was the problem all along when they tried. If you want an issue fixed, change the law or Constitution. Judges do not make law and do not change with which way the wind blows, whether you like it or not. Respectfully, your posts bespeak of a lack of knowledge of how out system of government is supposed to work.

 

[BULLDOG]

So? Illegals can still be deported.

sure. They just have to be given the opportunity to exercise their rights. You can't jut grab them and put them in a foreign prion for life just because they said something trump doesn't like.

 

[Edgetho]

Courts do not create laws. That was the problem all along when they tried. If you want an issue fixed, change the law or Constitution. Judges do not make law and do not change with which way the wind blows, whether you like it or not. Respectfully, your posts bespeak of a lack of knowledge of how out system of government is supposed to work.

You are way off base, sir. A glaring example of your incorrectness is Roe v. Wade, and before that, "Griswold"

SCOTUS totally invented a "Right to Privacy" out of thin air. No such right exists in the Constitution or in any of the Founding Documents.

Courts pull this shit all the time. Sometimes, it's because the Legislative Branch is too gutless to do their job, as in the case of Abortion. So SCOTUS steps in and decides. Which is not their place. Like their ruling or hate their ruling, it is not their job to make law. But they do it all the time.

You are wrong. You coudn't be more wrong if you tried. Everybody is aware of the fact that Judges are making law where ther shouldn't. Especially in places like the EPA where an Agency makes a ruling, takes it o COurt and a friendly Judge turns it into 'Law'.

There's a big fight going on about that right now, which I believe Trump just put a screeching halt to it.

You are very badly mistaken and I'm disappointed

 

[Edgetho]

Health care in this country is outstanding and the envy of the world. I am a living medical miracle in that I have the liver that belonged to a 17-year-old young man who died halfway across this country, and I am alive today because of it. Your problem is not knowing the difference in health care and health insurance.

I am happy for you that you are doing well.

But as usual, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.........

Mirror, Mirror 2024: A Portrait of the Failing U.S. Health System

Analyze the 2024 "Mirror, Mirror" report to understand global health system performance and insights for improving health care quality and access.

www.commonwealthfund.org

• Key Findings: The top three countries are Australia, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom, although differences in overall performance between most countries are relatively small. The only clear outlier is the U.S., where health system performance is dramatically lower.
• Conclusion: The U.S. continues to be in a class by itself in the underperformance of its health care sector. While the other nine countries differ in the details of their systems and in their performance on domains, unlike the U.S., they all have found a way to meet their residents’ most basic health care needs, including universal coverage.

According to the Commonwealth Fund's 2023 "Mirror, Mirror" report, the United States ranks last among 11 high-income countries in healthcare system performance.

The report found that the U.S. has the lowest life expectancy, the highest rates of preventable deaths, and the most expensive healthcare system among the countries studied. It also ranks poorly in terms of access to care, equity, and quality.

Specifically, the U.S. ranked:

Last in overall healthcare system performance, Last in life expectancy, Last in equity, Last in access to care, and Second to last in quality.

It's important to note that these rankings are based on a specific set of metrics and may not reflect all aspects of healthcare systems. Additionally, healthcare quality and access can vary significantly within the United States, with some states performing much better than others