The 600 lbs. gorilla in the room when it comes to Greenland

[Votto]

If Greenland decides they want to become a part of the US, then that is great, but any idea of a military takeover is just silly, and wrong.

If trump wants to make them a sweet deal and they approve, then I see no issue.

The issue is, how much of an ally will Europe be in the future, especially considering that the Left has pushed them into a bureaucratic and despotic EU as each country in Europe has surrendered their democratic sovereignty to an Oligarchy, a continent that has also, in large part, surrendered themselves to Islamic despotism.

And make no mistake, any country dominated by Islam will push for theocracy and Sharia law. In fact, Islam is more of a political religion than a spiritual one, preferring to conquer countries with the sword and at the ballot box by flooding immigrants into various countries.

 

[candycorn]

Trump has suffered a lot of scrutiny over his interest in Greenland. The continual screams that Trump is Hitler pervade the media and within the DNC as he pursues the fledgling and largely unpopulated land mass. But Trump is no different than President Harry Truman offering Denmark a $100 million in gold to buy Greenland. Simply put, Greenland is a strategic area for a variety of reasons. Those reasons are that they are right next door to the US, making it an ideal outpost for enemy combatants if any were to arise. In fact, there was a fear was that Nazis could use Greenland as a steppingstone to America. The Germans had already established small meteorological bases on the island’s east coast and relayed information for battles in Europe. American troops eventually ousted them and established more than a dozen bases there with thousands of troops, landing strips and other military facilities. And there is the natural resources of Greenland that either the US exploits, or other world powers will exploit, world powers that may be adversarial to the US.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/07/world/europe/trump-greenland-denmark-us-defense-pact.html

Trump is no different than previous Presidents who bought Alaska from Russia, and imagine if that deal had not been negotiated, with Russia later becoming the number one adversary of the US globally. And imagine Russia exploiting all their natural resources, with very little care about the environmental consequences like the US dutifully does.

And it is the very same reason that Trump did what he did in Venezuela, stopping the Chinese from taking most of their oil. Trump is simply the modern-day example of the Monroe Doctrine in action, which is to secure land and resources from hostile powers within the US sphere of geopolitical influence. It is also why JFK imposed a barricade around Cuba as Russia planted nukes on the island as well.

Call it imperialism, call it Nazism, call it whatever you wish. But China does the same damn thing as they prop up North Korea, as they don't want the US sphere of influence anywhere near their country for strategic reasons. And it is the same reason Putin took the Ukraine.

But Europe should be the last to cry about Trump's interest in Greenland, because Europe has allowed the US over the years to spend trillions and trillions of dollars on their military to keep Europe safe and free from Communist Russia, while they themselves spend their money on social programs instead of the endeavor to defend themselves. This has led to massive debt in the US, debt that Europe could care less about as they continue to insist that the US protects them internationally from despots, just like they begged Obama to take out Gaddafi for them. Europe loves the "free" socialistic military blanket of protection but want nothing to do with the US concern over the natural resources to do so and their concerns that adversaries may be able to plant themselves within the North American continent that could very well be deleterious to US power and survivability, nor do they care about the economic burden of providing such a defense at the expense of the lavish social programs Europe enjoys.

Besides, Orange Man bad.

You don't have to agree with the said world view, but to pretend Trump is this off the wall insane dictator in the US for the first time in US history, as he espouses and seeks to continue policy in the US that was created long before he was even born, is infantile

It's time to grow the hell up!!

"Europe has allowed the US over the years to spend trillions of dollars on their military"?

Wow...that may be the dumbest thing ever written on the internet.

How was Europe supposed to stop the US from spending money on the military?

 

[Votto]

"Europe has allowed the US over the years to spend trillions of dollars on their military"?

Wow...that may be the dumbest thing ever written on the internet.

How was Europe supposed to stop the US from spending money on the military?

Without the US military, Europe would either be speaking German or Russian.

 

[candycorn]

Without the US military, Europe would either be speaking German or Russian.

Doesn't really answer the question but then again, your premise was right out of an imaginary world.

 

[Votto]

Doesn't really answer the question but then again, your premise was right out of an imaginary world.

The notion that Europe could be free apart from US military help is beyond absurd.

Their freedom has relied on the US spending more on their military than they spend on their own in order to protect them.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

I researched Trump, clear back to his childhood, cuz' I so desperately wanted him to be who he claimed to be & have done, when he first ran for the Republican Ticket.

What I Learned about Trump Shocked & Deeply Angered me, because he utterly lied, about most of his accomplishments, as well as his "Christian Beliefs" . Trump is a Highly Experienced, Horribly Narcisstic, Professional Con-man, LIar, Whore-monger, & much more. So, as a Strong Conservative, I refused to Vote for Trump. What harm, I expected Trump to do to America when he was 1st POTUS, he far exceeded that his first time, & now, he is showing that he has No Restraints.

No Trump is not "Hitler", but his disregard for America's Constitution, Heritage, as well as Federal, & State Laws, does have some comparison to what Hitler did as he rose to power.

Offering to buy Greenland, even offer it Statehood is one thing,.. Threatening Greenland with Military Force if it refuses Trump's offers, is Satanically Inspired Bullshit. Trump is going to end up enraging what few Allies America truly has, & when the time comes that America truly needs them,... They'll either remain Neutral, or possibly join with Our Enemies. Keep in mind DE Gaulle kicked America out of France when JFK refused to invade Cuba.

America, already has bases in Greenland, & Military Ties with Greenland/Denmark could be strengthened if Common Sense, Intelligence, & Respect for an Existing Ally were employed, but,..... With Trump, that would be a Miracle worthy of the Catholic Church's Attention if that were to happen.

And, as far as Greemland's Natural Resources,,... They belong to Greenland!

Trump, & The Republican Party needs to Offer to Develop, & then Buy them, Trade something for them but,.... When Military Force is Hinted at/Threatened,....... Then that "Hitler Thingy" pops up again!

"And it is the very same reason that Trump did what he did in Venezuela, stopping the Chinese from taking most of their oil."

Soooo,.... It was All about the Oil, not being taken by the Chinese then. I admit, I've been somewhat puzzled how Venezuelan "Narco-terrorists" managed to get their boats out into the Eastern Pacific when Venezuela has No Coastline with the Pacific Ocean, but that was only One Objection that I had about this ongoing, & escalating Madness. Since America's Coastguard under the TRump Admin., appearred to be incapable of stoppinbg Drug Runners in Our Waters,..... Why didn't Trump deploy American Forces to Assist them? That way, if the Alleged Drug Boats opened fire on Our Forces, In Our Waters, then America would have every right to destroy those boats! And, if they just surrenedered,.... Trump would've been able to "Make Points" with "Th' Sheeple", by showing the seized drugs, & "Narco-terrorists" on American Media.

But Blowing up alleged Drug Boats, in International Waters, with No Evidence presented to America, nor the World, strongly resembles what caused the "War of 1812", with England, and again,..... that "Hitler Thingy".

So now it's "Stopping China from getting the Oil"?!?

Isn't that Interfering in another Nation's Business? Matter of fact,.... By Seizing Maduro, & now stating that America will be running Venezuela, isn't that also "Regime Change", that Trump once promised to stop?!?
"the same reason Putin took the Ukraine."

When Trump stated "I Can End the War in One Day",... I Applauded him! I Thought FINALLY Trump is going to become a True Conservative American President, and End a War that Obama, McCain, Graham, their Political Allies, as well as their Foreign Allies started. But, that was just another Lie told by Trump!
"Europe has allowed the US over the years to spend trillions and trillions of dollars on their military to keep Europe safe and free from Communist Russia, while they themselves spend their money on social programs instead of the endeavor to defend themselves. This has led to massive debt in the US, debt that Europe could care less about as they continue to insist that the US protects them"

I'd like to see the Data on that Votto,..... I was under the impression that Europe bought the Weapons from America.
But, I do agree, Europe has been more concerned about Socialism, & Welcoming in the Muslims, that jointly working with America towards a European Defense.

"Besides, Orange Man bad."............. I Absolutely Agree, and I'll add to that, the Vast majority of Republicans', as well as the Democrats,
"but to pretend Trump is this off the wall insane dictator"

He's heading that way, unless he realizes the Error of His Ways, or His Party stands up to him.

Commonsense, Our Laws, Our Heritage , & A Belief in The Almighty LORD GOD, must Return, & Prevail, otherwise, we're heading down a path that either the Republicans, or the Democrats could use to Destroy America.

Stay off the leftist kook sites. It’s the first step in curing TDS.

 

[candycorn]

The notion that Europe could be free apart from US military help is beyond absurd.

Their freedom has relied on the US spending more on their military than they spend on their own in order to protect them.

The notion that Europe forced the US to spend a dime on defense is moronic; it's no surprise you harbor such a notion. We did that on our own.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I never claimed that Trump was a conservative, but what I do know is that he was almost assassinated twice. I do know that the corrupt American government attacked him with historic lawfare, the most in US history to a sitting President. I do know that he has helped expose the fraudulent nature of NGO's in general, something no other politician would dare do, and why they hate him and why 1/3 of democrats polled said they wished Trump had been assassinated.

So, you have to ask yourself, was it better electing Trump than dementia Joe or his side kick Kamala? I say things would have been much worse, especially since both are so damned clueless about pretty much everything, along with their corruption to try and hide the reasons for their incompetence, like Joe having obvious dementia.

I don’t do false choices. This only guarantees Americas death dive on “he’s not as bad” stepping stones

 

[Clipper]

Great post! I personally think Greenland is one too many "balls in the air" but it is perfectly logical and as you say, something that has been attempted several times by previous Presidents and other countries. Greenland has obvious strategic importance and the citizens of Greenland are sitting ducks, completely defenseless. Like Denmark is going to protect them? LOL

Ever hear of a NATO charter? Probably not.

 

[protectionist]

If Greenland decides they want to become a part of the US, then that is great, but any idea of a military takeover is just silly, and wrong.

If trump wants to make them a sweet deal and they approve, then I see no issue.

Talk about militarily forcing Greenland or Denmark to have Greenland become part of America, is no more than announcing an asking price for a car of $20,000, when what you actually want to get is $15,000.

This is simply Trump being the businessman negotiator.

 

[EMH]

This has led to massive debt in the US

Every "Republican" primary voter who votes Pro Israel did that, every single one.

 

[ColonelAngus]

6 necks from Bama sharing a bottle of Fireball could take Greenland in 30 minutes.

 

[ThisIsMe]

The issue is, how much of an ally will Europe be in the future, especially considering that the Left has pushed them into a bureaucratic and despotic EU as each country in Europe has surrendered their democratic sovereignty to an Oligarchy, a continent that has also, in large part, surrendered themselves to Islamic despotism.

And make no mistake, any country dominated by Islam will push for theocracy and Sharia law. In fact, Islam is more of a political religion than a spiritual one, preferring to conquer countries with the sword and at the ballot box by flooding immigrants into various countries.

Yeah, but, at present, Greenland isn’t a threat. I just think the idea of the US invading another country to conquer it is preposterous.

 

[braalian]

only problem I have with it is the people in his administration making noises about using military force to take it over.

People like him?

 

[braalian]

If Greenland decides they want to become a part of the US, then that is great, but any idea of a military takeover is just silly, and wrong.

If trump wants to make them a sweet deal and they approve, then I see no issue.

Any “deal” would be with Denmark….

 

[braalian]

Talk about militarily forcing Greenland or Denmark to have Greenland become part of America, is no more than announcing an asking price for a car of $20,000, when what you actually want to get is $15,000.

This is simply Trump being the businessman negotiator.

Threatening to invade and annex another innocent country that has done absolutely nothing to threaten the US for no other reason than we want their resources isn’t “negotiating” and history does not look kindly on leaders who do that

 

[ThisIsMe]

Any “deal” would be with Denmark….

Ultimately it will have to be up to
Greenland

 

[braalian]

Ultimately it will have to be up to
Greenland

I don’t think you understand that Greenland is a territory of the kingdom of Denmark.

The people of Greenland may or may not want to join the USA, but they are ultimately under the sovereignty of Denmark.

Denmark’s claim over Greenland is unimpeachable. In the 1951 Defense of Greenland Agreement with Denmark, the US unambiguously recognized ‘the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Denmark’ over Greenland.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I don’t think you understand that Greenland is a territory of the kingdom of Denmark.

The people of Greenland may or may not want to join the USA, but they are ultimately under the sovereignty of Denmark.

Denmark’s claim over Greenland is unimpeachable. In the 1951 Defense of Greenland Agreement with Denmark, the US unambiguously recognized ‘the sovereignty of the Kingdom of Denmark’ over Greenland.

Greenland has been connected to Denmark since before a European ever stepped onto the Americas.

 

[g5000]

Trump has suffered a lot of scrutiny over his interest in Greenland. The continual screams that Trump is Hitler pervade the media and within the DNC as he pursues the fledgling and largely unpopulated land mass.

So it is okay with you neocons to seize weaker nations. Check.

But Trump is no different than President Harry Truman offering Denmark a $100 million in gold to buy Greenland. Simply put, Greenland is a strategic area for a variety of reasons. Those reasons are that they are right next door to the US, making it an ideal outpost for enemy combatants if any were to arise. In fact, there was a fear was that Nazis could use Greenland as a steppingstone to America. The Germans had already established small meteorological bases on the island’s east coast and relayed information for battles in Europe. American troops eventually ousted them and established more than a dozen bases there with thousands of troops, landing strips and other military facilities.

Um. That's an interesting revision of history you have there, comrade!

The US troops were INVITED by Greenland. America DID NOT SEIZE Greenland.

Nice try.

And there is the natural resources of Greenland that either the US exploits, or other world powers will exploit, world powers that may be adversarial to the US.

Define "exploit".