Thank an immigrant, legal or illegal for keeping Americans safe from starving

[Correll]

The young people in the fields are not really in danger. They are here to work and in doing so, are suppressing wages for actual Americans.


So, you are wrong.

Actual Americans don’t or won’t or can’t do those jobs.

Other than MAYBE the worst of the stoop labor harvesting, sure they will and that is only a small part of the problem anyways.

 

[Canon Shooter]

OMG a hundred times! WTF? Are you gd kidding me? A refugee or illegal leave South America to go someplace else? WTF are you smoking? They call them illegals and refugees for a reason retard. Good God! How can people be so fucking stupid? Do you honestly think in that shallow mind of yours these people have the means to go to other countries? What do you think they're going to do? Canoe there way over to Europe?

Heavy flow day?

You ask "Do you honestly believe these people have the means to go to other countries?"

Now, I want you to read that question to yourself again, and then I want you to think about how absolutely fucking stupid that question is.

Do they? Well, if someone who's fled from Venezuela shows up on out southern border, that person had to go through Columbia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico to do it so, yeah, they would obviously have the means to go to to other countries.

My point is that someone who wants to flee Venezuela doesn't have to come to America to do it. He could go to Columbia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala or Mexico and successfully flee Venezuela...

The dumb ass finally got it. Except for one thing, he didn't. "Columbia" Panama" Costa Rica" "Nicaragua" "El Salvador" "Guatemala" and "Mexico" have all fell under the wrath of US intervention, and have their own issues with poverty courtesy of the US. Therefore, they all suffer the consequences. Therefore, many of these people have to go because we stole their governments, turned some into dictatorships, stole their way of living, jobs, resources, and have been reduced to either joining gangs, dying, or leaving. That's on the US, and it's been documented and proven. Get out of your fucking closet you idiot. So guess what, those folks are crossing multiple borders at the time. They all take the risk because they have no other choice, thanks to good old USA, and its imperialism; Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com

You'd probably be far less ignorant if you'd actually been to any of those countries. I've been to all of them, and can state with confidence that you're wrong.

But, aside from that, you're starting to wade into a different discussion. You're now starting to argue that they should come here because the US (allegedly) went in and fucked up their government.

I disagree with that and completely dismiss it as a valid premise.

The point I made, and it is irrefutable, is that someone fleeing Venezuela has successfully accomplished that once he's reached Columbia.

Now, stop being stupid...

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It's not just people in the fields you idiot. It's those people running the delivery trucks, and those working in processing plants in cities. What a dumb ass. Suppressing wages for who? US citizens who won't do that work? Answer, yes. Thank an immigrant for saving your miserable fucking life asshole.

US citizens won't drive trucks? Well, maybe if employers weren't using cheap foreign drivers to keep wages down, Americans would do it, and love getting the higher wages.

STOP ALL THIRD WORLD IMMIGRATION.

The problem with the top argument is that BWK is arguing for continued illegal entry into the country with the expectation these people will work in labor intensive areas for subpar wages so he can have a cheaper head of lettuce.

The problem with the bottom argument is that Correll is not considering the fact that Americans would require much higher labor costs to do that work and that would increase the cost of food, hurting lower income Americans the most.

The solution needs to be a balance.

 

[BWK]

The young people in the fields are not really in danger. They are here to work and in doing so, are suppressing wages for actual Americans.


So, you are wrong.

LOL
Flagwwashed much ? Go get your best college "athlete" and stick him in the field beside a 35 year old "beaner". At the end of a 16 hour day Jose will have $150-$200 cash in his pocket and Joey will have 1/2 that(maybe) and owe Paco with the food truck $20 for Gatorade and Red Bull, take the rest and go to his dispensaries for weed and Vodka. Jose will be back at 5 AM and Joey will be at the doctor hunting some Oxycontin for his back hurt in his mommies Audi

The pretense that the illegals are all field workers is not true.

Yea, they also do yard work, road work, construction work, and other back breaking work that whites and blacks don't want to do. And the one's who are involved, are usually the contractors who sub the hard work out.

 

[Correll]

Rep. Joaquin Castro: U.S. must protect agricultural workers After WWII, all wars fought were of special interest and were not a threat to our mainland or our safety. But we still thank our vets, as we should, for going into battle thinking they were protecting us. They went there on our behalf with the best intentions and concern for our safety. They are true heroes. But now, today we discover a new army of heroes we never actually thought about, who actually have been essential soldiers fighting for our security this whole time. And those are the soldiers who grow, protect, and harvest our food in the fields. They are the one's on the front lines now. And their interests need protection more than ever, because their survival is our survival. Can anyone show or tell me how I'm wrong?

Sure we can, the problem with all you bedwetting losers is that unless it fits what you want everyone to believe you will just spew more of your proven bullshit. I've seen it a thousand times, and so has everyone else. All you shills play the same worn out tired game. Here's a template so you can see it.

Progressive shill ROE


1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth they are objecting to.

2. Promptly reject all explanations as right wing lies. Smoke spin deflect

3. Ignore any facts presented.

4. Ridicule spelling and typos, punctuation.

5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old", question their education, intelligence, Age

6. Employ misdirection,

6a. smear people

6b. attack religion

6c. attack your rationality.

7. Lie, make false assumptions

8. Play race/gender card/misogynist card

9. Play gay/lesbian card

10. Play the Nazi/Fascist/bigot card

11. Make up stuff/So you got nothing?

12. Deny constantly

13. Reword and repeat

14. Pretending not to understand, playing ignorant/what did I lie about

15. When losing, resort to personal attacks.

16. Russia

17. Fox News/Alex Jones/Brietbart/infowars/Stormfront/Gateway/hannity

18. You can’t read.

19. Trump Trump Trump TrumpTrump Trump

And somehow they think that they are being so clever.

They are the one's on the front lines now. And their interests need protection more than ever, because their survival is our survival. Can anyone show or tell me how I'm wrong? This is what Mike-TX responded to, and had nothing to do with my thread. What does his response have to do with my OP? Can you tell us? Of course you can't, because his response addresses some nonsensical bs, that has nothing to do with my thread. And you're the dumb ass who goes and feeds into the nonsense, when you haven't got a clue what he is talking about either. LOl! What a bunch of straight retards.

As the thread discussing continues, your behavior will fit the standard lefty ROE, that he posted.

 

[Correll]

The young people in the fields are not really in danger. They are here to work and in doing so, are suppressing wages for actual Americans.


So, you are wrong.

I wasn't talking about the "young people in the fields being in danger." I'm talking about your sorry ass. And for your information, no one is safe.

In the opinion of some on the left, we should be using socialism to learn to Use capitalism for all of its economic worth in modern times. Socialism can be good for socializing some costs as a form of investment and returns to scale.

What does this post of yours have to do with a war involving a pandemic, while using migrant workers? And what "return to scale" are you talking about? US citizens don't perform these farm working jobs that migrants do. You make no sense.

Actually in arkansas once when they raided a chicken plant
Black n white locals lined up for jobs the next day

Muh avacados

What about the millions of illegal barrel shaped incas not picking lettuce living oh I dunno EVERYWHERE

Yea, Did they line up to pick cabbages and strawberries out in the fields too? No! There are a hell of a lot more back breaking jobs than chicken plants. Get a fucking clue.

i thought you weren't talking about the ones in the fields?

 

[Correll]

The young people in the fields are not really in danger. They are here to work and in doing so, are suppressing wages for actual Americans.


So, you are wrong.

I wasn't talking about the "young people in the fields being in danger." I'm talking about your sorry ass. And for your information, no one is safe.

In the opinion of some on the left, we should be using socialism to learn to Use capitalism for all of its economic worth in modern times. Socialism can be good for socializing some costs as a form of investment and returns to scale.

What does this post of yours have to do with a war involving a pandemic, while using migrant workers? And what "return to scale" are you talking about? US citizens don't perform these farm working jobs that migrants do. You make no sense.

That's right Correll, run like a wiped dog with your dislike emoji. Like that's going to help you.

You are an anti-American, anti-white racist asshole, and getting a dislike from me is the least you will get.

 

[BWK]

OMG a hundred times! WTF? Are you gd kidding me? A refugee or illegal leave South America to go someplace else? WTF are you smoking? They call them illegals and refugees for a reason retard. Good God! How can people be so fucking stupid? Do you honestly think in that shallow mind of yours these people have the means to go to other countries? What do you think they're going to do? Canoe there way over to Europe?

Heavy flow day?

You ask "Do you honestly believe these people have the means to go to other countries?"

Now, I want you to read that question to yourself again, and then I want you to think about how absolutely fucking stupid that question is.

Do they? Well, if someone who's fled from Venezuela shows up on out southern border, that person had to go through Columbia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala and Mexico to do it so, yeah, they would obviously have the means to go to to other countries.

My point is that someone who wants to flee Venezuela doesn't have to come to America to do it. He could go to Columbia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala or Mexico and successfully flee Venezuela...

The dumb ass finally got it. Except for one thing, he didn't. "Columbia" Panama" Costa Rica" "Nicaragua" "El Salvador" "Guatemala" and "Mexico" have all fell under the wrath of US intervention, and have their own issues with poverty courtesy of the US. Therefore, they all suffer the consequences. Therefore, many of these people have to go because we stole their governments, turned some into dictatorships, stole their way of living, jobs, resources, and have been reduced to either joining gangs, dying, or leaving. That's on the US, and it's been documented and proven. Get out of your fucking closet you idiot. So guess what, those folks are crossing multiple borders at the time. They all take the risk because they have no other choice, thanks to good old USA, and its imperialism; Imperial Borders and Mythical Frontiers - TheHumanist.com

You'd probably be far less ignorant if you'd actually been to any of those countries. I've been to all of them, and can state with confidence that you're wrong.

Your argument here has no legs. I've been to South American countries myself, and I can assure you that the documented facts speak for themselves. That's why you failed to counter mine.

[quot]But, aside from that, you're starting to wade into a different discussion. You're now starting to argue that they should come here because the US (allegedly) went in and fucked up their government.

I disagree with that and completely dismiss it as a valid premise.

They don't want to come here. They have to. When you change an entire socio-economic system that is converted to poverty by switching the government to favor ten families, this is what you get. Again, you are saying nothing here with your weak response that has no legs. I could give two shits about your "valid premise." it means nothing without facts and documentation. Leave your own convenient bs out of this. It insults my intelligence.

The point I made, and it is irrefutable, is that someone fleeing Venezuela has successfully accomplished that once he's reached Columbia.

AND? So? What does that change? Not a gd thing. He or she just moves to the next US corrupted country.

Now, stop being stupid...

Man please. Lol! You are nothing but a bs artist without legs. Next time you post, bring some documentation with you. Your so called "valid premise" is sucking hind tit and drowning in its own pile of crapola.

 

[Likkmee]

The young people in the fields are not really in danger. They are here to work and in doing so, are suppressing wages for actual Americans.


So, you are wrong.

The young people in the fields are not really in danger. They are here to work and in doing so, are suppressing wages for actual Americans.


So, you are wrong.

LOL
Flagwwashed much ? Go get your best college "athlete" and stick him in the field beside a 35 year old "beaner". At the end of a 16 hour day Jose will have $150-$200 cash in his pocket and Joey will have 1/2 that(maybe) and owe Paco with the food truck $20 for Gatorade and Red Bull, take the rest and go to his dispensaries for weed and Vodka. Jose will be back at 5 AM and Joey will be at the doctor hunting some Oxycontin for his back hurt in his mommies Audi

The pretense that the illegals are all field workers is not true.

The good ones are. Field workers are usually simple hard workers. I've hired bunches and been to weddings, baptisms,fishing or doing a pig in a China box and drinking Coron....Ummm... Beerz. Some I've known for 25 years got legal, English and a few have business. A few went union. Many saved up 30-40 grand and went home. Those were several mountain guys. Mostly Guatemalan

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I'll go with this.

I'd like to thank anyone who is sidestepping the shelter in place bullshit to make sure things keep moving.

That I mean seriously (the thank you).

After all, we would not want New York to starve so they can die from the virus.

That wasn't so seriousl

 

[BWK]

The young people in the fields are not really in danger. They are here to work and in doing so, are suppressing wages for actual Americans.


So, you are wrong.

It's not just people in the fields you idiot. It's those people running the delivery trucks, and those working in processing plants in cities. What a dumb ass. Suppressing wages for who? US citizens who won't do that work? Answer, yes. Thank an immigrant for saving your miserable fucking life asshole.

US citizens won't drive trucks? Well, maybe if employers weren't using cheap foreign drivers to keep wages down, Americans would do it, and love getting the higher wages.


STOP ALL THIRD WORLD IMMIGRATION.

"Employers?" Now that's funny as hell right there. So let's blame illegals for a problem US "employers" started, but not the "employers?"

 

[Canon Shooter]

They don't want to come here. They have to.

No, they don't...

When you change an entire socio-economic system that is converted to poverty by switching the government to favor ten families, this is what you get.

This would only make sense if the socio-economic system they once had was what the United States currently has. That's not the case. For the most part, they've always been impoverished countries...

Again, you are saying nothing here with your weak response that has no legs. I could give two shits about your "valid premise." it means nothing without facts and documentation. Leave your own convenient bs out of this. It insults my intelligence.

I cannot insult that which you clearly do not possess...

Man please. Lol! You are nothing but a bs artist without legs. Next time you post, bring some documentation with you.

Documentation?

How about a fucking map?

 

[BWK]

OMG a hundred times! WTF? Are you gd kidding me? A refugee or illegal leave South America to go someplace else? WTF are you smoking? They call them illegals and refugees for a reason retard. Good God! How can people be so fucking stupid? Do you honestly think in that shallow mind of yours these people have the means to go to other countries? What do you think they're going to do? Canoe there way over to Europe?

Last I checked all of Central America and Mexico are in between. In fact, I know they are. I've been there.

It was a general description that includes the entire continent. And thanks! If that's the core of your counter argument, you have no argument. Next?

 

[Canon Shooter]

Yea, they also do yard work, road work, construction work, and other back breaking work that whites and blacks don't want to do. And the one's who are involved, are usually the contractors who sub the hard work out.

The two guys who mow my yard are white. When I had my house re-plumbed, all of the people who did the work were white. When I had an addition put onto the side of my house, the construction crew was black and white. When I drove to Tallahassee the other day, I saw a road construction crew that was also black and white.

Your clueless and talking out your ass...

 

[BWK]

They don't want to come here. They have to.

No, they don't...

When you change an entire socio-economic system that is converted to poverty by switching the government to favor ten families, this is what you get.

This would only make sense if the socio-economic system they once had was what the United States currently has. That's not the case. For the most part, they've always been impoverished countries...

Again, you are saying nothing here with your weak response that has no legs. I could give two shits about your "valid premise." it means nothing without facts and documentation. Leave your own convenient bs out of this. It insults my intelligence.

I cannot insult that which you clearly do not possess...

Man please. Lol! You are nothing but a bs artist without legs. Next time you post, bring some documentation with you.

Documentation?

How about a fucking map?

Yes, they have to if they want to live a good, decent, law bidding way of life. Which is exactly what they were doing until we decided to intercede on our behalf and at the calculated intentions of doing away with theirs. It's already been documented. Didn't I tell you to bring some documentation to accompany this bs argument you have? Stop wasting my time with drivel that says nothing. I have no patience for bs artists who lack the ability or knowledge to back up what they say. Move along if that is too much above your paygrade. Nonsensical crap is boring. get started or get lost.

 

[Canon Shooter]

They don't want to come here. They have to.

No, they don't...

When you change an entire socio-economic system that is converted to poverty by switching the government to favor ten families, this is what you get.

This would only make sense if the socio-economic system they once had was what the United States currently has. That's not the case. For the most part, they've always been impoverished countries...

Again, you are saying nothing here with your weak response that has no legs. I could give two shits about your "valid premise." it means nothing without facts and documentation. Leave your own convenient bs out of this. It insults my intelligence.

I cannot insult that which you clearly do not possess...

Man please. Lol! You are nothing but a bs artist without legs. Next time you post, bring some documentation with you.

Documentation?

How about a fucking map?

Yes, they have to if they want to live a good, decent, law bidding way of life. Which is exactly what they were doing until we decided to intercede on our behalf and at the calculated intentions of doing away with theirs. It's already been documented. Didn't I tell you to bring some documentation to accompany this bs argument you have? Stop wasting my time with drivel that says nothing. I have no patience for bs artists who lack the ability or knowledge to back up what they say. Move along if that is too much above your paygrade. Nonsensical crap is boring. get started or get lost.

Suck a dick, ya' little bitch.

It's laughable that you say they come here for a "good, decent, law bidding way of life".

First off, what the fuck is a "law bidding" way of life? Second, if they're here illegally, nothing about them is lawful.

You're problem is that you're incapable of admitting that you're wrong.

I don't need documentation for that, as you provide all the proof anyone would ever need...

 

[BWK]

OMG a hundred times! WTF? Are you gd kidding me? A refugee or illegal leave South America to go someplace else? WTF are you smoking? They call them illegals and refugees for a reason retard. Good God! How can people be so fucking stupid? Do you honestly think in that shallow mind of yours these people have the means to go to other countries? What do you think they're going to do? Canoe there way over to Europe?

Last I checked all of Central America and Mexico are in between. In fact, I know they are. I've been there.

It was a general description that includes the entire continent. And thanks! If that's the core of your counter argument, you have no argument. Next?

Yea, they also do yard work, road work, construction work, and other back breaking work that whites and blacks don't want to do. And the one's who are involved, are usually the contractors who sub the hard work out.

The two guys who mow my yard are white. When I had my house re-plumbed, all of the people who did the work were white. When I had an addition put onto the side of my house, the construction crew was black and white. When I drove to Tallahassee the other day, I saw a road construction crew that was also black and white.

Your clueless and talking out your ass...

Yea, so they say. By the way, almost every yard worker, roofer, or construction worker in my neighborhood and surrounding areas isn't white or black. And I've been watching them for years. They look like these cats.

 

[BWK]

They don't want to come here. They have to.

No, they don't...

When you change an entire socio-economic system that is converted to poverty by switching the government to favor ten families, this is what you get.

This would only make sense if the socio-economic system they once had was what the United States currently has. That's not the case. For the most part, they've always been impoverished countries...

Again, you are saying nothing here with your weak response that has no legs. I could give two shits about your "valid premise." it means nothing without facts and documentation. Leave your own convenient bs out of this. It insults my intelligence.

I cannot insult that which you clearly do not possess...

Man please. Lol! You are nothing but a bs artist without legs. Next time you post, bring some documentation with you.

Documentation?

How about a fucking map?

Yes, they have to if they want to live a good, decent, law bidding way of life. Which is exactly what they were doing until we decided to intercede on our behalf and at the calculated intentions of doing away with theirs. It's already been documented. Didn't I tell you to bring some documentation to accompany this bs argument you have? Stop wasting my time with drivel that says nothing. I have no patience for bs artists who lack the ability or knowledge to back up what they say. Move along if that is too much above your paygrade. Nonsensical crap is boring. get started or get lost.

Suck a dick, ya' little bitch.

It's laughable that you say they come here for a "good, decent, law bidding way of life".

First off, what the fuck is a "law bidding" way of life? Second, if they're here illegally, nothing about them is lawful.

You're problem is that you're incapable of admitting that you're wrong.

I don't need documentation for that, as you provide all the proof anyone would ever need...

Don't get so pissed at your own failed argument, with no legs or documentation. Take it like a man, not a mouse.

You can't seem to grapple with the idea that illegal and US imperialism are synonymous. That's your beef with your own truth and reality. Myself, I have no problem with that, because I don't lie to myself. I understand the dynamics between illegal and imperialism. Those doors, unfortunately for you, are going to swing open both ways. They always have. I have no problem with them, because, thankfully those illegals are doing the work my sorry ass and yours aren't going to do, so your argument is worth teats anyway. You talking out of your ass isn't going to ever solve your problems with illegal or legal immigrants, because you depend on them, as much as they depend on you. So keep spinning those wheels that are going no fucking where.

 

[Canon Shooter]

You talking out of your ass isn't going to ever solve your problems with illegal or legal immigrants, because you depend on them, as much as they depend on you.

And this is why you're fucking stupid and why no one takes you even remotely seriously.

I don't have a single problem with legal immigrants, and I do not depend on the illegal ones, nor do they depend on me. If they did, I assure you, they would be fucked...

 

[BWK]

You talking out of your ass isn't going to ever solve your problems with illegal or legal immigrants, because you depend on them, as much as they depend on you.

And this is why you're fucking stupid and why no one takes you even remotely seriously.

I don't have a single problem with legal immigrants, and I do not depend on the illegal ones, nor do they depend on me. If they did, I assure you, they would be fucked...

Nope! You would be fucked because a large percentage of these people are illegal and everyone knows it. And they're feeding your sorry ass and mine.