Texas Florist Who Admitted to Being in Pelosi’s Office Wants Case Moved from D.C. Because of ‘Cancel Culture’

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Since DC is a Democratic stronghold with almost all its residents either working for the government, or receiving money from the federal government, how is she going to get an impartial jury?

Same way anyone else does. She is not special.

 

[surada]

She traveled all the way from West Texas to storm the Capitol because Trump said to come to DC on Jan 6?? Really? Jesus.

She's feeling special....

 

[bendog]

She's feeling special....

But she's so not special.

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[Rigby5]

Since Texas is a Republican stronghold with all of its residents in thrall to Republican misinformation, progaganda and lies, how is the prosecution ever going to get an impartial jury?

If you don't want to be tried in the jurisdiction where you committed your crimes, stay the **** at home and don't try to overthrow the government. It was the citizens of Washington who were attacked and they should decide this asshat's fate.

Last but not least, why add to the costs of this case. The defendant is the only Texan here. The prosecutor, the witnesses, and everyone else involved, is from Washington. Why should the government fly all of these people to Texas, put them up in hotels and pay their expenses, just to convenience this criminal insurrectionist? Talk about your white privilege!!

Wrong.
The citizens of DC were not effected at all in any way.

An impartial venue is required by law.
Revenge or personal desire are NOT supposed to be allowed to influence verdict in any way.

I agree TX may be wrong in reverse, but it should be some place neutral.

 

[Rigby5]

Half way across the country?

OJ was not being charged federally.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The insurrectionist flower lady should have stayed in Texas tending her petals instead of being stupid enough to join an attack on the capital to overthrow the election.

Agreed.

When we rebel and leave the U.S. they should have to come to Texas to stop us.

They won't.

 

[john doe 101]

OJ was not being charged federally.

True. But the right wing terrorist pleaded guilty so it no longer matters.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I agree TX may be wrong in reverse, but it should be some place neutral.

Justice should always favor a criminal defendant, and if they get a conviction in Texas, it would be even more compelling.

 

[Rigby5]

True. But the right wing terrorist pleaded guilty so it no longer matters.

Sure it matters.
The principles are abstractions and precedents.
They are all that matter.
I do not know the individuals and do not care about the actual people involved.

For example, if during the Vietnam war, protestors went to a military base to demonstrate, you would not consider it fair to use the local military personnel for their jury.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Moron, "another division of the district," is not in another state.

There are 94 judicial districts. All states, territories and DC have at least one. Trials can be transferred between districts.

 

[Rigby5]

Justice should always favor a criminal defendant, and if they get a conviction in Texas, it would be even more compelling.

You also have a point in that the defendant does have a right to be judged according to local values and standards they were raised under.

 

[john doe 101]

Sure it matters.
The principles are abstractions and precedents.
They are all that matter.
I do not know the individuals and do not care about the actual people involved.

For example, if during the Vietnam war, protestors went to a military base to demonstrate, you would not consider it fair to use the local military personnel for their jury.

Are you actually suggesting that no local jury can be fair?

 

[bendog]

Wrong.
The citizens of DC were not effected at all in any way.

An impartial venue is required by law.
Revenge or personal desire are NOT supposed to be allowed to influence verdict in any way.

I agree TX may be wrong in reverse, but it should be some place neutral.

Not a venue. A person is entitled to a jury that can render an unbiased verdict. That's all.

 

[White 6]

Agreed.

When we rebel and leave the U.S. they should have to come to Texas to stop us.

They won't.

Admire your honesty, but as a state, ya'll stick around.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Trials have been moved many times, I am not surprised you are ignorant on this subject.

It is not a common motion that the judge agrees to but it does happen.

FYI: The OJ Simpson trial had a change of venue.

Rule 21. Transfer for Trial

www.law.cornell.edu

Motion for Change of Venue | Federal Criminal Defense Attorneys

If your trial is being held somewhere that could conflict your right to a fair trial, your attorney may file a Motion for Change of Venue.

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In OJs case the change of venue was because the downtown courthouse had better facilities to handle the media, not because he couldn’t get a fair trial in the Beverly Hills Courthouse. The defense agreed to it because the jury pool for downtown favored OJ being mostly black. I grew up near there, the area even than had a large illegal alien population, so most jurors were drawn from black areas to the Southwest with some to the near north, but the South Pasadena Courthouse area blocked the north. A lot of the downtown residents spoke poor English so were excused from jury duty.

 

[Rigby5]

Are you actually suggesting that no local jury can be fair?

I am suggesting that the accused does have a right to the prejudices, beliefs, and values they were raised under.
The main point of justice is the "reasonable man" test, and that should not be relative to the victims, but to the accused.

 

[Rigby5]

Not a venue. A person is entitled to a jury that can render an unbiased verdict. That's all.

That is true, but I can think of no way to ensure an unbiased jury except by a change of venue.
Beliefs are all that matter in this case.
If the protestors really believed the election had been stolen, then that is a valid defense.
The fact they obviously were wrong, does not change their innocence of the crimes accused.

 

[Rigby5]

Admire your honesty, but as a state, ya'll stick around.

Both TX and CA have a negotiated right of secession from their original joining of the union.
And actually, from the Declaration of Independence, all states do, depending on the conditions at the time.

 

[bendog]

That is true, but I can think of no way to ensure an unbiased jury except by a change of venue.
Beliefs are all that matter in this case.
If the protestors really believed the election had been stolen, then that is a valid defense.
The fact they obviously were wrong, does not change their innocence of the crimes accused.

no a belief, even sincere, that an election was stolen is NOT a defense. Even assuming the defendant did not personally witness or participate in violence IF a jury concludes the proof sufficient to show they broke the law by trespassing ... they're guilty. And they have to pay the penalty.

Even if potential jurors saw the riot and sacking on tv, that should not make every potential person sitting on a jury so prejudiced that they'd convict a person just because they were charged. Jurors just have to fairly look at the evidence. Since most of these idiots will plead, it probably doesn't matter. But if the govt has digital pictures of a person, it's pretty conclusive.

And yeah, I think rioters elsewhere are equally guilty, but they'll get off. But they didn't sack the damn capitol. That ups the ante so to speak.

 

[bendog]

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