Terrorist Attack In Saudi Arabia

[Freeman]

After Turkey this puppet group hit Saudi Arabia.

4 killed in suicide attack in Saudi Arabia - CNN.com

It seems that Iran has released his dogs in the region.
Is ISIS Iran’s Proxy? - Dr. Rich Swier
Inbari presents evidence to support a thesis that ISIS is really a creation of the Syrian Mukhabarat (Intelligence) and Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence with the dual purposes of defeating the rebel opposition in Syria and forcing the breakup of Iraq. His key points are:

• Immediately after ISIS emerged in Syria, sources in the Syrian opposition said, “We are familiar with the commanders of ISIS. Once they belonged to Assad’s intelligence, and now they are operating on his behalf under the name of ISIS.”

 

[Bleipriester]

Watch Freeman blaming himself on Iran and Syria!

 

[OldLady]

Does anyone know why they would try to hit Mecca? What's wrong with that picture?

 

[Phoenall]

After Turkey this puppet group hit Saudi Arabia.

4 killed in suicide attack in Saudi Arabia - CNN.com

It seems that Iran has released his dogs in the region.
Is ISIS Iran’s Proxy? - Dr. Rich Swier
Inbari presents evidence to support a thesis that ISIS is really a creation of the Syrian Mukhabarat (Intelligence) and Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence with the dual purposes of defeating the rebel opposition in Syria and forcing the breakup of Iraq. His key points are:

• Immediately after ISIS emerged in Syria, sources in the Syrian opposition said, “We are familiar with the commanders of ISIS. Once they belonged to Assad’s intelligence, and now they are operating on his behalf under the name of ISIS.”

And just who are tgey67 puppets of. I would say one of the two cults in islam, and my money is on the one originating in Iran

 

[irosie91]

Does anyone know why they would try to hit Mecca? What's wrong with that picture?

probably a sunni vs Shiite thing.

 

[yiostheoy]

After Turkey this puppet group hit Saudi Arabia.

4 killed in suicide attack in Saudi Arabia - CNN.com

It seems that Iran has released his dogs in the region.
Is ISIS Iran’s Proxy? - Dr. Rich Swier
Inbari presents evidence to support a thesis that ISIS is really a creation of the Syrian Mukhabarat (Intelligence) and Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence with the dual purposes of defeating the rebel opposition in Syria and forcing the breakup of Iraq. His key points are:

• Immediately after ISIS emerged in Syria, sources in the Syrian opposition said, “We are familiar with the commanders of ISIS. Once they belonged to Assad’s intelligence, and now they are operating on his behalf under the name of ISIS.”

That was my take as well, that Iran has sponsored this particular obviously Shia retaliation against the Sunni's.

Civil war in Islam !!! God I love it !!!

 

[RoccoR]

OldLady, et al,

Is is hard to say what the objectives, strategies, and profiles most resemble DAESH [(an estranged al-Qaeda faction) al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Mujahideen Shura Council of Iraq,
Ansar al Sunna in Iraq and the Shabab (just to name a few)] that appear to be violent variations of Sunni Salafi Jihadist Organizations (SSJO's).

• There is only one Supreme Being, the sole creator and sovereign of the universe.
• No other entity may be worshipped.
• The Supreme Being is entirely unique having unlimited power able to do anything. Humanity is not made in the image of the Supreme Being nor share the same characteristics.
• Salafism is diametrically opposed to and rejects the notion of secularism (separation of church and state). No man-made laws can have a governance over the divine.
• Natural Law is that outlined in the Quran (Holy Book) and Sunna (Islamic Law); as passed down by the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). These ideological paths is a path represent the religious truth and what a desire to practice Islam entails; exactly as the Prophet revealed it.
​

Salafism is a "strict compliance" form of belief; without deviation. Life outside the parameters of Holy Book and Sunna are considered "impure" and represent a potential contamination of the faith (faith in this sense is the bida’).

Some scholars have suggested that the US influence in the Middle East (particularly in the 1990's) advanced the emergence of the inevitable. But that the impure influence had the unintended consequence was of fracturing the Salafi framework into two major parts:

• Religious Reformist and academics,
• Religious fighters of the insurgents, terrorist and jihadists, (involved the termination of the individuals that were causing the injustices against). Most notice that the Muslims placed a strong emphasis on violence

​

Does anyone know why they would try to hit Mecca? What's wrong with that picture?

(COMMENT)

Much of what we see in the Middle East conflicts started out to be simple arguments; like that of the Sunni-Shi'ite dispute --- or --- the differences between the notion held by the Arab Palestinians (Jihad and Armed Struggle) 'versus' the Israelis (settlement of disputes by peaceful means).

(TARGET SPECIFIC)

The Overlord Protection of Mecca and Medina pose twin razor blades in the armor of Saudi Arabia. These two cities have within them the most sensitive religious sites in all Islam; the ('Sacred Mosque').

(IraqiNews.com) Secretary-General of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah said that Mecca and Medina are the main targets of ISIS, not Jerusalem, pointing out that its caliphate cannot prevail without the Two Holy Mosques, and that the Iraqis had prevented the terrorist group from accessing the Gulf.
SOURCE: Iraq News Feb 18, 2015 Linguistics & Translation by Abdelhak Mamoun
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[waltky]

Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes in the Saudi kingdom...

Bombers Raise Saudi Stakes With Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes
6 July`16 - Kingdom has experience crushing a militant insurgency; Escalated violence seen triggering tough government response

Militants escalated their campaign against Saudi Arabia’s ruling Al Saud family with three suicide attacks in a single day, in the biggest challenge to the kingdom’s internal security since it crushed an al-Qaeda insurgency a decade ago. With no claims of responsibility, suspicion has fallen on Islamic State, which has vowed to overthrow Gulf rulers they see as betraying Islam. One of the bombings on Monday, near the Prophet’s Mosque in the holy city of Medina, targeted the heart of the Al Saud family’s legitimacy -- its custodianship of Islam’s two holiest shrines. “The Saudis are likely to react firmly, if not harshly, to the attacks,” James Dorsey, a senior fellow in international studies at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, said in response to e-mailed questions. If coordinated, the bombings “would demonstrate the ability of IS to strike multiple times in the kingdom within a 24-hour framework and as such suggest that the kingdom has a real problem.”

The violence began in Jeddah, a commercial center, where a man identified by the government as Pakistani-born blew himself up near the U.S. consulate. Hours later on the opposite side of the country, two bombers struck a Shiite mosque in the kingdom’s oil-rich Eastern Province. In Medina, Islam’s second-holiest city after Mecca, four security personnel were killed outside the Prophet’s Mosque. The attacks extended a two-week terrorism spree that has killed dozens in Iraq, Turkey and Bangladesh. Kuwait bolstered its security around oil installations on Monday after breaking up a network allegedly planning to assault the Shiite community and a state facility. Saudi Arabia is determined to fight terrorism “with an iron fist,” King Salman said Tuesday in a speech commemorating the start of the Muslim Eid holiday. The biggest challenge for the Muslim community is protecting its youth from “the dangers of extremism,” he said.

Al-Qaeda Precedent

The kingdom’s rulers faced a similar insurgency a decade ago when al-Qaeda militants returning from battling U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq redirected their fire against Saudi government targets and foreign workers. Authorities crushed that threat by 2007, jailing many al-Qaeda supporters and forcing others to flee to neighboring Yemen. Today, militants inspired by Islamic State, an al-Qaeda breakaway, are waging a low-level campaign against police and other symbols of power. They’ve also mounted assaults along the country’s religious fault lines with attacks on minority Shiites. “The group is experimenting and trying to learn about the state’s weaknesses to exploit them,” Firas Abi Ali, principal analyst at IHS Country Risk, said in an e-mailed report. “It also suggests that the group’s ideology is sufficiently popular in Saudi Arabia to obtain individuals eager to take their own lives.”

Economic Shakeup

 

[RoccoR]

waltky, et al,

You will no doubt note that in "walky's" commentary, the source news story cites as one reasons that is rooted in the reasoning in Posting #7, supra; which is just part of the problem.

Bombers Raise Saudi Stakes With Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes
With no claims of responsibility, suspicion has fallen on Islamic State, which has vowed to overthrow Gulf rulers they see as betraying Islam. One of the bombings on Monday, near the Prophet’s Mosque in the holy city of Medina, targeted the heart of the Al Saud family’s legitimacy -- its custodianship of Islam’s two holiest shrines.
SOURCE: Bloomberg 5 JUL 16, by Glen Carey and Dana Khraiche
​

Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes in the Saudi kingdom...

Bombers Raise Saudi Stakes With Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes
6 July`16 - Kingdom has experience crushing a militant insurgency; Escalated violence seen triggering tough government response

Militants escalated their campaign against Saudi Arabia’s ruling Al Saud family with three suicide attacks in a single day, in the biggest challenge to the kingdom’s internal security since it crushed an al-Qaeda insurgency a decade ago. With no claims of responsibility, suspicion has fallen on Islamic State, which has vowed to overthrow Gulf rulers they see as betraying Islam. One of the bombings on Monday, near the Prophet’s Mosque in the holy city of Medina, targeted the heart of the Al Saud family’s legitimacy -- its custodianship of Islam’s two holiest shrines. “The Saudis are likely to react firmly, if not harshly, to the attacks,” James Dorsey, a senior fellow in international studies at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, said in response to e-mailed questions. If coordinated, the bombings “would demonstrate the ability of IS to strike multiple times in the kingdom within a 24-hour framework and as such suggest that the kingdom has a real problem.”

The violence began in Jeddah, a commercial center, where a man identified by the government as Pakistani-born blew himself up near the U.S. consulate. Hours later on the opposite side of the country, two bombers struck a Shiite mosque in the kingdom’s oil-rich Eastern Province. In Medina, Islam’s second-holiest city after Mecca, four security personnel were killed outside the Prophet’s Mosque. The attacks extended a two-week terrorism spree that has killed dozens in Iraq, Turkey and Bangladesh. Kuwait bolstered its security around oil installations on Monday after breaking up a network allegedly planning to assault the Shiite community and a state facility. Saudi Arabia is determined to fight terrorism “with an iron fist,” King Salman said Tuesday in a speech commemorating the start of the Muslim Eid holiday. The biggest challenge for the Muslim community is protecting its youth from “the dangers of extremism,” he said.

Al-Qaeda Precedent

The kingdom’s rulers faced a similar insurgency a decade ago when al-Qaeda militants returning from battling U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq redirected their fire against Saudi government targets and foreign workers. Authorities crushed that threat by 2007, jailing many al-Qaeda supporters and forcing others to flee to neighboring Yemen. Today, militants inspired by Islamic State, an al-Qaeda breakaway, are waging a low-level campaign against police and other symbols of power. They’ve also mounted assaults along the country’s religious fault lines with attacks on minority Shiites. “The group is experimenting and trying to learn about the state’s weaknesses to exploit them,” Firas Abi Ali, principal analyst at IHS Country Risk, said in an e-mailed report. “It also suggests that the group’s ideology is sufficiently popular in Saudi Arabia to obtain individuals eager to take their own lives.”

Economic Shakeup

(COMMENT)

As of yet, there is no appreciable adverse impact on the regional or greater national economy, other than the cost of clean-up --- which may actually make --- such a periodic event a positive impact on the economy in terms of renewal efforts, in the long run.

Haveing said that, I noted something especially interesting in the Bloomberg article that makes a correlation more visible:

FIRST:
The kingdom’s rulers faced a similar insurgency a decade ago when al-Qaeda militants returning from battling U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq redirected their fire against Saudi government targets and foreign workers.
​

This has a direct correlation to the possible impact the sudden and unrestraint release of Arab-Palestinian Jihadist, Insurgents, Terrorists, and other asymmetric fighters, of a extreme radical Islamist character, may turn next (in the phony name of liberation and religion). The lifting of the Israeli containment of these various and disturbing Arab-Palestinian elements acts like a metastatic disease spreading havoc over the region.

SECOND:
The biggest challenge for the Muslim community is protecting its youth from “the dangers of extremism,” he said.
​

This is a direct connection to the Arab League support and tacit approve of generational transference of radical extremist Islamic influence. This again, will materialize unleashed if the Hostile Arab Palestinians are suddenly released into the wild.

DAESH, which is the focus of this Bloomberg Essay, is todays threat. For most of the Arab League, DAESH is the more important threat. But in dealing with the most immediate threat, the Arab League Leadership cannot (or discontinue) giving support to the radical extremist Islamist. If politically coerced into doing so, they must be very cautious; else they risk conjuring the new big threat.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[irosie91]

waltky, et al,

You will no doubt note that "walky's" commentary, his source news story cites as one reasons that is rooted in the reasoning in Posting #7, supra, which is just part of the problem.

Bombers Raise Saudi Stakes With Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes
With no claims of responsibility, suspicion has fallen on Islamic State, which has vowed to overthrow Gulf rulers they see as betraying Islam. One of the bombings on Monday, near the Prophet’s Mosque in the holy city of Medina, targeted the heart of the Al Saud family’s legitimacy -- its custodianship of Islam’s two holiest shrines.
SOURCE: Bloomberg 5 JUL 16, by Glen Carey and Dana Khraiche
​

Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes in the Saudi kingdom...

Bombers Raise Saudi Stakes With Back-to-Back Suicide Strikes
6 July`16 - Kingdom has experience crushing a militant insurgency; Escalated violence seen triggering tough government response

Militants escalated their campaign against Saudi Arabia’s ruling Al Saud family with three suicide attacks in a single day, in the biggest challenge to the kingdom’s internal security since it crushed an al-Qaeda insurgency a decade ago. With no claims of responsibility, suspicion has fallen on Islamic State, which has vowed to overthrow Gulf rulers they see as betraying Islam. One of the bombings on Monday, near the Prophet’s Mosque in the holy city of Medina, targeted the heart of the Al Saud family’s legitimacy -- its custodianship of Islam’s two holiest shrines. “The Saudis are likely to react firmly, if not harshly, to the attacks,” James Dorsey, a senior fellow in international studies at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore, said in response to e-mailed questions. If coordinated, the bombings “would demonstrate the ability of IS to strike multiple times in the kingdom within a 24-hour framework and as such suggest that the kingdom has a real problem.”

The violence began in Jeddah, a commercial center, where a man identified by the government as Pakistani-born blew himself up near the U.S. consulate. Hours later on the opposite side of the country, two bombers struck a Shiite mosque in the kingdom’s oil-rich Eastern Province. In Medina, Islam’s second-holiest city after Mecca, four security personnel were killed outside the Prophet’s Mosque. The attacks extended a two-week terrorism spree that has killed dozens in Iraq, Turkey and Bangladesh. Kuwait bolstered its security around oil installations on Monday after breaking up a network allegedly planning to assault the Shiite community and a state facility. Saudi Arabia is determined to fight terrorism “with an iron fist,” King Salman said Tuesday in a speech commemorating the start of the Muslim Eid holiday. The biggest challenge for the Muslim community is protecting its youth from “the dangers of extremism,” he said.

Al-Qaeda Precedent

The kingdom’s rulers faced a similar insurgency a decade ago when al-Qaeda militants returning from battling U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq redirected their fire against Saudi government targets and foreign workers. Authorities crushed that threat by 2007, jailing many al-Qaeda supporters and forcing others to flee to neighboring Yemen. Today, militants inspired by Islamic State, an al-Qaeda breakaway, are waging a low-level campaign against police and other symbols of power. They’ve also mounted assaults along the country’s religious fault lines with attacks on minority Shiites. “The group is experimenting and trying to learn about the state’s weaknesses to exploit them,” Firas Abi Ali, principal analyst at IHS Country Risk, said in an e-mailed report. “It also suggests that the group’s ideology is sufficiently popular in Saudi Arabia to obtain individuals eager to take their own lives.”

Economic Shakeup

(COMMENT)

As of yet, there is no appreciable adverse impact on the regional or greater national economy, other than the cost of clean-up --- which may actually make --- such a periodic event a positive impact on the economy in terms of renewal efforts, in the long run.

Haveing said that, I noted something especially interesting in the Bloomberg article that makes a correlation more visible:

FIRST:
The kingdom’s rulers faced a similar insurgency a decade ago when al-Qaeda militants returning from battling U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq redirected their fire against Saudi government targets and foreign workers.
​

This has a direct correlation to the possible impact the sudden and unrestraint release of Arab-Palestinian Jihadist, Insurgents, Terrorists, and other asymmetric fighters, of a extreme radical Islamist character, may turn next (in the phony name of liberation and religion). The lifting of the Israeli containment of these various and disturbing Arab-Palestinian elements acts like a metastatic disease spreading havoc over the region.

SECOND:
The biggest challenge for the Muslim community is protecting its youth from “the dangers of extremism,” he said.
​

This is a direct connection to the Arab League support and tacit approve of generational transference of radical extremist Islamic influence. This again, with great unleashed if the Hostile Arab Palestinians are suddenly released into the wild.

DAESH, which is the focus of this Bloomberg Essay, is todays threat. For most of the Arab League, DAESH is the more important threat. But in dealing with the most immediate threat, the Arab League Leadership cannot (or discontinue) giving support to the radical extremist Islamist must be very cautious; else they risk conjuring the new big threat.

Most Respectfully,
R

thanks R. -----what do you think of a Shiite origin of some of the recent stuff in SA. ? I have a nitemare scenario------
ISIS/Palestinian/Iranian/ world mass of Shiites/ all with Russian support---COALITION AGAINST SAUDI ARABIA.
So far all sorts of strangers are in bed together------Hezbollah
somehow manages to survive arab/iran hatred in Lebanon----
Turkey is flirting with god-knows-who in ITS bid to
re-establish the Ottoman empire~~~~~~~............

 

[RoccoR]

"irosie91, et al,

While the attacks did happen, the timing suggesting some limited coordination (most of the old school agents like myself, don't believe in coincidence) it is very probable that it is not directly aligned with DAESH (Main); complete with line of communication and operational protocols.

thanks R. -----what do you think of a Shiite origin of some of the recent stuff in SA. ? I have a nitemare scenario------
ISIS/Palestinian/Iranian/ world mass of Shiites/ all with Russian support---COALITION AGAINST SAUDI ARABIA.

(COMMENT)

This is not impossible "nightmare" scenario. Certainly all the components are there. But in forming a coalition which sounds so very easy, requires a huge set of chess playing skills, planning and knowledge of the members if problems in the future are to be avoided. While alliances tend to be more stable, coalitions are fragile. Over time, maybe the Russian Federation might which to give the Saudi Royals aggravation, even the Russians know that dealing with them is much easier than dealing with radical extremist and Islamist.

Left to there own devises, DAESH would actively work to emasculate any independently minded Arab-Palestinians; most especially those that are today rattling on about self-determination, sovereignty and independence. Daesh, for now, seems to be a Wahhabi fundamentalist that adopted the persona of a Salafi jihadist militant group; working to establish a Caliphate. Not generally spoken here is the fact that a Caliphate has a "Caliph" as the leader. And a "Caliph" has the stigma of a persona of a religious successor to the Islamic Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). It is a power trip, which is diametrically opposed to the typical leadership common to the Russian Federation (which would not hesitate to dissolve DAESH once its usefulness to the Federation was at an end. And in terms of the Palestinians, they could care less about the Arab-Palestinians bid for autonomy, independence and sovereignty. AND, the Russian Federation is totally immune to the influence of the UN or even the EU, in terms of Humanitarian concerns. Under such a scenario as you are concerned with, the Federation would neutralize the Arab-Palestinian or Islamic Movement once its usefulness was exhausted.

And even more interesting is that the Federation may begin to actively support the Jewish State of Israel, just as a localized security effort in the eyes of the Arab-Palestinians (or any other Arab League member or proxy).

So far all sorts of strangers are in bed together------Hezbollah somehow manages to survive arab/iran hatred in Lebanon ---- Turkey is flirting with god-knows-who in ITS bid to re-establish the Ottoman empire~~~~~~~............

(COMMENT)

There was a young lady from Niger,
Who smiled as she rode on a tiger.
After the ride
She was inside,
And the smile was on the face of the tiger.
​

Just as the Arab League could have not foreseen the consequences of their actions and political position seven and eight decades ago, relative to the status quo of today, and the position held by Israel today, any alliance with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp --- Quds Force (Quds Force reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran). And nothing to do with the Grand Ayatollah comes without a hidden agenda.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[irosie91]

.........Just as the Arab League could have not foreseen the consequences of their actions and political position seven and eight decades ago, relative to the status quo of today, and the position held by Israel today, any alliance with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp --- Quds Force (Quds Force reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran). And nothing to do with the Grand Ayatollah comes without a hidden agenda.

Most Respectfully,
R

all so true, Mr. R. But alliances need not be LONG LASTING--------Mussolini fell out of love with Adolf almost
as soon as they were BETROTHED. I see these alliances
as very fleeting------albeit VERY BLOODY as long as they last.----after the bloody shake up -----comes the reconstruction

 

[RoccoR]

irosie91, et al,

Well, if you had told me, in 2003, that "Reconstruction" was the end-game (or even a preliminary phase towards an end), I would have considered that exceptionally sound advice. Now, I think of that as merely another 20th Century concept that was overtaken by events and needs discarded.

In point of fact, this idea dates back a decade (2005) and the Four-Pillars of "Action to Counter Terrorism" which does not work at all; especially as we apply it to the Question of Palestine and then wider, to the entire greater-region.

When the Secretary-General addressed the Security Council (2013) on matters of counter-terrorism; in part he said: "No counter-terrorism policy can be effective without addressing conditions that are conducive to the spread of terrorism." In saying this, he outline the first pillar as:

First: the critical links between development and security. Nothing can justify terrorism — ever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts. At the same time, we must remove the conditions that feed the problem. Terrorism festers where conflicts are endemic and where human rights, human dignity and human life are not protected and impunity prevails.​

.........Just as the Arab League could have not foreseen the consequences of their actions and political position seven and eight decades ago, relative to the status quo of today, and the position held by Israel today, any alliance with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp --- Quds Force (Quds Force reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran). And nothing to do with the Grand Ayatollah comes without a hidden agenda.

Most Respectfully,
R

all so true, Mr. R. But alliances need not be LONG LASTING--------Mussolini fell out of love with Adolf almost
as soon as they were BETROTHED. I see these alliances
as very fleeting------albeit VERY BLOODY as long as they last.----after the bloody shake up -----comes the reconstruction

(COMMENT)

The if the idea of rehabilitation completely collapses, then the "bloody" part will announce itself as it is approaching, when the Arab Palestinians (as other hostiles have) declare "Jihad" as the path Muslims should follow in their quest for the Arab Dominated Middle East. And if that becomes the case, then it would become a diplomatic point of consideration for Western Civilization (North America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe and FSU --- Asia) to allow (but not encourage) the various factions of Islamic followers in dispute to battle if out until one dominant culture remains (the one left standing scenario).

As inhuman as it might sound, it is better than condemning the use of foce and allowing wars of attrition to last indefinitely (as in the Arab-Israeli Conflict) which the UN has actually set the conditions for an everlasting conflict; by simply not permitting the war to come to a conclusion. This protracted conflict through law generated to protect population will end-up costing more lives than it saves at the end.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[irosie91]

irosie91, et al,

Well, if you had told me, in 2003, that "Reconstruction" was the end-game (or even a preliminary phase towards an end), I would have considered that exceptionally sound advice. Now, I think of that as merely another 20th Century concept that was overtaken by events and needs discarded.

In point of fact, this idea dates back a decade (2005) and the Four-Pillars of "Action to Counter Terrorism" which does not work at all; especially as we apply it to the Question of Palestine and then wider, to the entire greater-region.

When the Secretary-General addressed the Security Council (2013) on matters of counter-terrorism; in part he said: "No counter-terrorism policy can be effective without addressing conditions that are conducive to the spread of terrorism." In saying this, he outline the first pillar as:

First: the critical links between development and security. Nothing can justify terrorism — ever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts. At the same time, we must remove the conditions that feed the problem. Terrorism festers where conflicts are endemic and where human rights, human dignity and human life are not protected and impunity prevails.​

.........Just as the Arab League could have not foreseen the consequences of their actions and political position seven and eight decades ago, relative to the status quo of today, and the position held by Israel today, any alliance with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp --- Quds Force (Quds Force reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran). And nothing to do with the Grand Ayatollah comes without a hidden agenda.

Most Respectfully,
R

all so true, Mr. R. But alliances need not be LONG LASTING--------Mussolini fell out of love with Adolf almost
as soon as they were BETROTHED. I see these alliances
as very fleeting------albeit VERY BLOODY as long as they last.----after the bloody shake up -----comes the reconstruction

(COMMENT)

The if the idea of rehabilitation completely collapses, then the "bloody" part will announce itself as it is approaching, when the Arab Palestinians (as other hostiles have) declare "Jihad" as the path Muslims should follow in their quest for the Arab Dominated Middle East. And if that becomes the case, then it would become a diplomatic point of consideration for Western Civilization (North America, Western Europe, Eastern Europe and FSU --- Asia) to allow (but not encourage) the various factions of Islamic followers in dispute to battle if out until one dominant culture remains (the one left standing scenario).

As inhuman as it might sound, it is better than condemning the use of foce and allowing wars of attrition to last indefinitely (as in the Arab-Israeli Conflict) which the UN has actually set the conditions for an everlasting conflict; by simply not permitting the war to come to a conclusion. This protracted conflict through law generated to protect population will end-up costing more lives than it saves at the end.

Most Respectfully,
R

BLEAK!!!!!!!! my first major in school was biology-----
----you are describing a large cage of lab rats--
left to their own devices----a few do survive and have
no problem eating their newborns

 

[Freeman]

Since the appearance of Alqaeda and ISIS they strike Saudi arabia and other arab countries but they never attacked Iran!

Iran and state-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[RoccoR]

Freeman, et al,

While this may be true, what does it prove.

Since the appearance of Alqaeda and ISIS they strike Saudi arabia and other arab countries but they never attacked Iran!

Iran and state-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(COMMENT)

The IRGC-QF has been associated with many events, and activities. This is generally well known. Certainly the Arab League and Gulf Coast Cooperative are very afraid to engage.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Uncensored2008]

Does anyone know why they would try to hit Mecca? What's wrong with that picture?

Iran desperately wants control of the idol. Iran would gladly invade Mecca to take the idol back and make themselves center of the Muslim world.

It isn't Mecca that Muslims bow to, it's the idol. Wherever the idol is, that is where Muslims will face as they Kowtow. If it is to Tehran, then that would be a big boost to the Shiites.

That said, ISIS is Sunni, so the idea that they are working for Iran is far fetched.

 

[Freeman]

Does anyone know why they would try to hit Mecca? What's wrong with that picture?

That said, ISIS is Sunni, so the idea that they are working for Iran is far fetched.

You are real naive!

Iran use this group as proxy and sunni mask to invade arab countries and present itself as terrorism enemy in the world.
U.S. Court Fines Iran 10.5 Billion Dollars for Backing 9/11 Terrorist Attackers
U.S. Court Fines Iran 10.5 Billion Dollars for Backing 9/11 Terrorist Attackers - ASHARQ AL-AWSAT
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/b...iran-bank-must-pay-for-terrorist-attacks.html

Iran is the main state sponsor of terror

 

[Roudy]

Does anyone know why they would try to hit Mecca? What's wrong with that picture?

Because according to both Shiite and Sunni Islamic nutjobs, Mecca is being controled by kuffar sinners and puppets of filthy non Muslim infidels. So you blow it up, which is Muslim conflict resolution and problem solving methodology 101.

 

[Freeman]

Does anyone know why they would try to hit Mecca? What's wrong with that picture?

Because according to both Shiite and Sunni Islamic nutjobs, Mecca is being controled by kuffar sinners and puppets of filthy non Muslim infidels. So you blow it up, which is Muslim conflict resolution and problem solving methodology 101.

There is no supposed sunni shiites war, there is a war of Iran against arab countries by ISIS and other groups proxy.

Iran has already targeted many chiites chiefs and cities like Baker Alhakim and chiite Samara attack.

By attacking sunni and chiites holy cities and foreign embassies Iranian mollahs try to make internal and international conflict in order to have his hand in the region.
Academic study.
State sponsor of terror: The global threat of Iran