Terror attack in Jordan Valley: Husband murdered, wife injured

[MHunterB]

Oh, good. So you're a bit less of a hypocrite than some others.

Still - when a home is broken into and its owners attacked: what possible 'difference' can it make if some of them were former military? You *appear* to have been excusing the blatant disregard for law and human life displayed by the perpetrators, because of your prejudice against those home owners.

I'm wondering: if that had been MY home, would you be 'wondering' how many people my husband had killed - him being former military and all. If it had been another poster's home, who insisted he'd been a soldier in Viet Nam - would you be 'wondering'?

Israel has bombed dozens of Palestinian homes killing entire families.

Link to your posts condemning these actions.

First you need to stop lying. Don't compare actions of warfare to individual thugs breaking & entering & committing murder.

When you claim to not be a pacifist, it's commonly understood that you are not automatically against war. So the 'war = murder' argument (a logical fallacy) is not available ......

I HAVE repeatedly condemned all unlawful attacks upon and alleged targeting of non combatants.

 

[MHunterB]

Every incident is different, and some view the solider attack as justified.

I don't get the whole childish thing israelis do when they just call anyone who attacks them terrorists.

I think this has more criminal intent. It could be a dispute between them. We don't know all the details yet.

After all, that nine year old boy was a future Israeli soldier.

So it's not terrorism, just an attack on "the military" which, despite the fact there has been no war declared and the attack was not done BY a military, is still "just" murder.

I was obviously referring to the IDF solider, and not the 9 year old 'girl'.

What just caught my attention is that you israelis often claim you're in a state of war with the Palestinians. So that mean the sniper justifiably shot an legitimate target who was in occupied territory.

You can't have it both ways. Make it clear to us what it is you're in.

What's odd is that before the creation of Israel, Jewish paramilitaries, whom today we'd call terrorist organizations and whom were tied to political Jewish groups in Palestine were taking matters into their own hands without permission.

The British were on a set process which these Jewish paramilitary groups derailed and hence why people believe Israel was unlawfully created and not credible.

What people believe and the facts are not always the same thing.

As in, certain posters keep insisting that the Holocaust never happened, that the Nazis had no intention of committing genocide against any number of groups in Europe....... And then there are the people who 'believe' in all those conspiracy "theories"......

 

[BecauseIKnow]

After all, that nine year old boy was a future Israeli soldier.

So it's not terrorism, just an attack on "the military" which, despite the fact there has been no war declared and the attack was not done BY a military, is still "just" murder.

I was obviously referring to the IDF solider, and not the 9 year old 'girl'.

What just caught my attention is that you israelis often claim you're in a state of war with the Palestinians. So that mean the sniper justifiably shot an legitimate target who was in occupied territory.

You can't have it both ways. Make it clear to us what it is you're in.

What's odd is that before the creation of Israel, Jewish paramilitaries, whom today we'd call terrorist organizations and whom were tied to political Jewish groups in Palestine were taking matters into their own hands without permission.

The British were on a set process which these Jewish paramilitary groups derailed and hence why people believe Israel was unlawfully created and not credible.

What people believe and the facts are not always the same thing.

As in, certain posters keep insisting that the Holocaust never happened, that the Nazis had no intention of committing genocide against any number of groups in Europe....... And then there are the people who 'believe' in all those conspiracy "theories"......

Are you addressing the right person? What does your response have anything to do with what I said? Pay attention, marg.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh, good. So you're a bit less of a hypocrite than some others.

Still - when a home is broken into and its owners attacked: what possible 'difference' can it make if some of them were former military? You *appear* to have been excusing the blatant disregard for law and human life displayed by the perpetrators, because of your prejudice against those home owners.

I'm wondering: if that had been MY home, would you be 'wondering' how many people my husband had killed - him being former military and all. If it had been another poster's home, who insisted he'd been a soldier in Viet Nam - would you be 'wondering'?

Israel has bombed dozens of Palestinian homes killing entire families.

Link to your posts condemning these actions.

First you need to stop lying. Don't compare actions of warfare to individual thugs breaking & entering & committing murder.

When you claim to not be a pacifist, it's commonly understood that you are not automatically against war. So the 'war = murder' argument (a logical fallacy) is not available ......

I HAVE repeatedly condemned all unlawful attacks upon and alleged targeting of non combatants.

What is the difference between government thugs and the other thugs?

 

[Lipush]

Isn't this murder? There have incidents where Israelis have killed other Israelis in this fashion. They were considered murders.

I don't see why you always have to call individually based crimes as terror attacks.

The shooting of Na'ama Glick by Palestinian sniper was 'attempted murder'.

The stoning attack of Adelle Biton was 'attempted murder'

The slaughter of Eviatar Borovsky by a Palestionian stabber was 'murder'.

The Fogel family killing was also 'Murder'.

Also the Shabo family killing.


They are all individual killings by Palestinians.

They figured that those "casual" killings are more "effective" than bombs and explosives.

Funny thing is, those kinds of incidents happen more often after negotiations or prisoners release.


All are like "spots", "individual" "casual killings"

But even a line is created by many small 'spots' combined.

 

[Lipush]

Because they're terrorists.

There's more:

Last Saturday, a terrorist infiltrated the Binyamin region community of Psagot, shooting nine-year-old Noam Glick at close range and then fleeing.

The IDF continues to investigate the attack. Two brothers from the Palestinian Authority town of Kfar el-Bireh have reportedly been arrested as suspects.

On September 22, IDF soldier Gal (Gavriel) Kobi was killed by a terrorist sniper in Hevron.

Several days before this attack, IDF soldier Tomer Hazan was kidnapped and murdered by a PA Arab terrorist with whom he had worked in a restaurant in Bat Yam. The terrorist lured Hazan to Samaria, where he murdered him and disposed of his body.

Every incident is different, and some view the solider attack as justified.

I don't get the whole childish thing israelis do when they just call anyone who attacks them terrorists.

I think this has more criminal intent. It could be a dispute between them. We don't know all the details yet.

The wife recognized that the attackers were Arab.

Are yo deflecting? some say that the Fogels were murdered by Thai workers.

Are you trying to give terrorists a green card?

 

[Lipush]

Israel has bombed dozens of Palestinian homes killing entire families.

Link to your posts condemning these actions.

First you need to stop lying. Don't compare actions of warfare to individual thugs breaking & entering & committing murder.

When you claim to not be a pacifist, it's commonly understood that you are not automatically against war. So the 'war = murder' argument (a logical fallacy) is not available ......

I HAVE repeatedly condemned all unlawful attacks upon and alleged targeting of non combatants.

What is the difference between government thugs and the other thugs?

Your Salary

 

[docmauser1]

Israel has bombed dozens of Palestinian homes killing entire families.

But it's cool - palistanians can both shoot at jews from those "homes" and get those alleged families killed for agitprop parades in the media. Plus virgins, plus holy war, plus martyrdom, all that crap.

 

[docmauser1]

Btw, what the heck is an 'Palestinian authority arab'?

Oh, it's a special arab to the last one of which other arabs (and their diverse cheerleaders here 'n there) fight jews, of course.

 

[MHunterB]

Isn't this murder? There have incidents where Israelis have killed other Israelis in this fashion. They were considered murders.

I don't see why you always have to call individually based crimes as terror attacks.

It is part of Israel's "terrorist" propaganda campaign.

Btw, what the heck is an 'Palestinian authority arab'?

Someone whose purported 'government' is the PA - as opposed to an Arab citizen of Israel, one assumes.

 

[Susanna]

"you israelis"

I don't recall mentioning where I live.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Updated news

Suspects Ouda Fareed Taleb Haroub, 18, and Bashir Ahmed Ouda Haroub, 21, both from the PA Arab town of Dir Samet in the Hevron region, have confessed to attacking Sayira and his wife Monique and murdering Sariya.

Two Confess to Jordan Valley Killing - Defense/Security - News - Israel National News