Tennessee prepares to execute Oscar Smith, 3 years after last-minute reprieve

[Meathead]

Exactly right.

There's no good reason to execute anyone if you can lock them away for life.

So they can kill again?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

So they can kill again?

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Escape happens.


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[Polishprince]

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Escape happens.


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A breachproof prison has never been built, and never will be built.

This is why America kept the very worst IslamoNazi creeps at Guantanamo Bay.

Protect American women and children from these animals should they get out.

 

[JoeB131]

A breachproof prison has never been built, and never will be built.

This is why America kept the very worst IslamoNazi creeps at Guantanamo Bay.

Protect American women and children from these animals should they get out.

Actually, we kept them there so they couldn't appeal the fact that they were being held illegally. Which is why most of them were eventually released without ever being charged with anything.

 

[Polishprince]

Actually, we kept them there so they couldn't appeal the fact that they were being held illegally. Which is why most of them were eventually released without ever being charged with anything.

The American people wouldn't have stood for bringing this vermin to the USA.

That's why B. Hussein O had to abandon his plans to do exactly that. Have you forgot how he had planned to have a New York City trial for some of the top creeps being held in Guantanamo?

 

[JoeB131]

The American people wouldn't have stood for bringing this vermin to the USA.

That's why B. Hussein O had to abandon his plans to do exactly that. Have you forgot how he had planned to have a New York City trial for some of the top creeps being held in Guantanamo?

Yes, I do.

Then he realized that we didn't have a case

Here's the problem with Gitmo.

These men didn't commit any crimes in the US. Most of them were captured in Afghanistan or Iraq. So we couldn't actually charge them with anything.

If we wanted to claim they were prisoners of war, then we had to abide by the Geneva Conventions, which we weren't doing, either.

 

[Meathead]

Yes, I do.

Then he realized that we didn't have a case

Here's the problem with Gitmo.

These men didn't commit any crimes in the US. Most of them were captured in Afghanistan or Iraq. So we couldn't actually charge them with anything.

If we wanted to claim they were prisoners of war, then we had to abide by the Geneva Conventions, which we weren't doing, either.

You get that there are still asshole Muzzies down there, right?

 

[JoeB131]

You get that there are still asshole Muzzies down there, right?

Only because the government has no idea what to do with them.

 

[Polishprince]

Only because the government has no idea what to do with them.

President Trump knows what to do with them.

Keep them at Guantanamo Bay until passage to El Salvador's CECOT can be arranged.

Because they sure the hell can't come here to America.

 

[JoeB131]

President Trump knows what to do with them.

Keep them at Guantanamo Bay until passage to El Salvador's CECOT can be arranged.

Because they sure the hell can't come here to America.

Why not?

Assuming that you can actually get a conviction (which is problematic given all the evidence we gathered against them was tainted by torture and is inadmissible), why not put them in a SuperMax?

 

[Polishprince]

Why not?

Assuming that you can actually get a conviction (which is problematic given all the evidence we gathered against them was tainted by torture and is inadmissible), why not put them in a SuperMax?

There has never been a breachproof prison built and never has been.

We just had a massive escape in New Orleans.

Further, the chance of an acquittal , particularly if the trial is heard by leftists, is definitely there and they would seek to release the worst of the worst right into the American population.

 

[JoeB131]

There has never been a breachproof prison built and never has been.

We just had a massive escape in New Orleans.

Further, the chance of an acquittal , particularly if the trial is heard by leftists, is definitely there and they would seek to release the worst of the worst right into the American population.

So your argument is that we shouldn't give them due process because they might be found innocent?

This is your argument?

I mean, I get it, our conduct was pretty bad, which is why we had to let most of the 800 people we illegally detained go withoug charges, and now we have 15 we have no idea what to do with.

We can't put them on trial because we have no legally admissible evidence.

 

[Polishprince]

So your argument is that we shouldn't give them due process because they might be found innocent?

This is your argument?

I mean, I get it, our conduct was pretty bad, which is why we had to let most of the 800 people we illegally detained go withoug charges, and now we have 15 we have no idea what to do with.

We can't put them on trial because we have no legally admissible evidence.

We can't bring them to America at all, because they don't have proper papers to enter the country, in other words, they would be undesirable illegal aliens of the worst kind.

They could be tried by military tribunals right there in Guantanamo, and executed right on location for sure.

 

[pknopp]

We can't bring them to America at all, because they don't have proper papers to enter the country, in other words, they would be undesirable illegal aliens of the worst kind.

They could be tried by military tribunals right there in Guantanamo, and executed right on location for sure.

We somehow managed to try Ramzi Yousef.

 

[JoeB131]

We can't bring them to America at all, because they don't have proper papers to enter the country, in other words, they would be undesirable illegal aliens of the worst kind.

They could be tried by military tribunals right there in Guantanamo, and executed right on location for sure.

That isn't true, either.

The ONLY reason why they weren't brought into the country was because once they were here, they had recourse to the law.

Our reasons for holding most of them was dubious.

They had committed no crimes against the US, or inside the US. They were captured on battlefields in Iraq or Afghanistan, but we didn't classify them as prisoners of war because then the Geneva Conventions would have applied.

 

[Polishprince]

That isn't true, either.

The ONLY reason why they weren't brought into the country was because once they were here, they had recourse to the law.

Our reasons for holding most of them was dubious.

They had committed no crimes against the US, or inside the US. They were captured on battlefields in Iraq or Afghanistan, but we didn't classify them as prisoners of war because then the Geneva Conventions would have applied.

The status of the Gitmo inmates was that of "Unlawful Combatants".


They weren't POW's, so the Geneva Convention didn't apply to them.

According to the laws of war, combatants must be in uniform, these creeps weren't. If they are fighting but not in uniform that makes them guilty of espionage and subject to punishments up to and including summary execution.

 

[pknopp]

The status of the Gitmo inmates was that of "Unlawful Combatants".


They weren't POW's, so the Geneva Convention didn't apply to them.

According to the laws of war, combatants must be in uniform, these creeps weren't. If they are fighting but not in uniform that makes them guilty of espionage and subject to punishments up to and including summary execution.

Same complaints during the Revolutionary War.

 

[JoeB131]

The status of the Gitmo inmates was that of "Unlawful Combatants".


They weren't POW's, so the Geneva Convention didn't apply to them.

According to the laws of war, combatants must be in uniform, these creeps weren't. If they are fighting but not in uniform that makes them guilty of espionage and subject to punishments up to and including summary execution.

Actually, not true. Later adoptions of teh Geneva Conventions recognized the status of irregular forces.

So these guys were prisoners of war.