Ted Cruz SHREDS Jack Dorsey, Twitter CEO

This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.

I watched the entire thing and Jack Dorsey is full of shit. Mao himself couldn't lie any more bluntly.
Again I say - THIS IS THE FUTURE OF AMERICAN INFORMATION.
Dictated and censored by a handful of people. The entire information system of 380 million people... controlled by a dozen people.
I don't give crap what party you claim... if you don't think this is a serious - serious problem then you are simply mentally retarded.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time
When they have a government-assisted monopoly and are using that monopoly in a clearly partisan way to change the outcome of an election, it is definitely deserves some questioning, don't you think?

Or are you okay with Texas energy giants forcing government-backed domestic consumption priorities, then charging Californians and New Yorkers 10x everyone else?

Stop saying that

Those "monopoly" powers are given to every website on the web, including this one and any you might make

The alternative is youtube is filled with porn and snuff videos because they can't moderate. Or they ahve to be 100% curated with no user content. And the whole internet collapses.

Any other business or media organization on the planet can take advantage of those same exact rules. THere is nothing monopolistic about it

They may partake in monopoly practices, but they are not state backed nor do they have special carve outs

They of course have a special carve out.
That's what the entire conversation is about.

No it's not

Again everyone has that "carve out"

It's nto special

I can take advantage of it the same as twitter, do you not know what a carve out is? A carve out is not universally applied to everyone lol, that's just a rule we all funciton under. Including this site.

I'm fucking embarrassed for you.
Learn something
Come back.
 
Dorsey testified Twitter blacked out the NY Post Story (& has Blacked out ALL REFERENCES TO THE SCANDAL but did not mention that) because the NY Post printed / showed DIRECT EVIDENCE FROM THE LAPTOP.

Dorsey stated TWITTER just ASSUMED / MADE THE DECISION THE EVIDENCE HAD TO HAVE BEEN HACKED / STOLEN so that they could justify blacking it out based on an existing Twitter rule prohibiting posting hacked material.

-- The problem with this is the material was NEVER HACKED. TWITTER continues to block ANY reports / news about the scandal, continues to Censor attempts to share anything about the story, continues to keep accounts blocked.

Dorsey is a lying POS.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

No it just doesnt' have a usable legal definition in this context

What you're trying to say as Angus is, is it'sa "common carrier" because that's the only way your argument makes sense. But they're jsut private servers. THey're not a common carrier

Platform has so many meanings in tech, lol
 
Dorsey testified Twitter blacked out the NY Post Story (& has Blacked out ALL REFERENCES TO THE SCANDAL but did not mention that) because the NY Post printed / showed DIRECT EVIDENCE FROM THE LAPTOP.

Dorsey stated TWITTER just ASSUMED / MADE THE DECISION THE EVIDENCE HAD TO HAVE BEEN HACKED / STOLEN so that they could justify blacking it out based on an existing Twitter rule prohibiting posting hacked material.

-- The problem with this is the material was NEVER HACKED. TWITTER continues to block ANY reports / news about the scandal, continues to Censor attempts to share anything about the story, continues to keep accounts blocked.

Dorsey is a lying POS.

Yet he didnt censor any discussion of the Steele Dossier....also unverified. Isnt that Interesting?
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.

You odn't undersatnd the difference between teh state letting verizon take up airwaves on 3g and twitter running a website through private property.

you're a boomer know your place, idiot

"It's a common carrier just like verizon"

Oh yea they're a common carrier on their own private land? What? lol
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

No it just doesnt' have a usable legal definition in this context

What you're trying to say as Angus is, is it'sa "common carrier" because that's the only way your argument makes sense. But they're jsut private servers. THey're not a common carrier

Platform has so many meanings in tech, lol

When you CENSOR AND EDIT, YOU ARE A PUBLISHER.

I AM DONE WITH YOU.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

No it just doesnt' have a usable legal definition in this context

What you're trying to say as Angus is, is it'sa "common carrier" because that's the only way your argument makes sense. But they're jsut private servers. THey're not a common carrier

Platform has so many meanings in tech, lol

When you CENSOR AND EDIT, YOU ARE A PUBLISHER.

I AM DONE WITH YOU.

No you're not, that's what section 230 is for

That would mean usmessageboards is a publisher and can be sued

You've just broken the internet and raised the cost to host this site exponentially

By that standard anyone who allows user content and moderates at all is a publisher. Which means everyone needs lawyers they can't afford.

Say goodbye to the internet we ahve

Now you wanna break it and say we shouldn't do it, tha'ts fine. But they are not common carriers. They may be publishers. But agian if they're publishers so is this site and the internet as we know it is over
 
Twitter wont censor holocaust deniers or the Ayatollah, but they censor POTUS AND THE PRESS SECRETARY.

One thing we all can do is stop using those platforms.
 
Twitter wont censor holocaust deniers or the Ayatollah, but they censor POTUS AND THE PRESS SECRETARY.

One thing we all can do is stop using those platforms.

That's their right as a publisher

And 230 protects them from being sued

Same way USmessageboards can delete whatever they want and not be held liable as a publisher for what they allow to remain up

There isn't some special carve out for censorship you like or don't like.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.

You odn't undersatnd the difference between teh state letting verizon take up airwaves on 3g and twitter running a website through private property.

you're a boomer know your place, idiot

"It's a common carrier just like verizon"

Oh yea they're a common carrier on their own private land? What? lol
Yeah, keep making excuses and defending the most blatant neon sign Politically biased Censoring since Nazi Germany and modern-day China.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.

You odn't undersatnd the difference between teh state letting verizon take up airwaves on 3g and twitter running a website through private property.

you're a boomer know your place, idiot

"It's a common carrier just like verizon"

Oh yea they're a common carrier on their own private land? What? lol
Yeah, keep making excuses and defending the most blatant neon sign Politically biased Censoring since Nazi Germany and modern-day China.

It's not an excuse, you people just don't understand what a common carrier is.

What gives the state the right to regulate these services mroe than they do most others is their use of the "commons"

Twitters does not use the commons, "twitter" the service is on private servers on private land. They aren't using airways or running copper next to streets.

They are publishers in the same way 99% of the sites on the web are with user generated content. But as Americans this is one of our biggest industries. You're talking about taking it out behind the shed and shooting it right in teh head.

Vast majority of services we use on the net are built on the protections in 230. Nothing monopolistic about it

What you want would crush our GDP so you can feel better about social media. Shut the fuck up
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.

You odn't undersatnd the difference between teh state letting verizon take up airwaves on 3g and twitter running a website through private property.

you're a boomer know your place, idiot

"It's a common carrier just like verizon"

Oh yea they're a common carrier on their own private land? What? lol
Yeah, keep making excuses and defending the most blatant neon sign Politically biased Censoring since Nazi Germany and modern-day China.

The poster is not having a good faith discussion.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.

You odn't undersatnd the difference between teh state letting verizon take up airwaves on 3g and twitter running a website through private property.

you're a boomer know your place, idiot

"It's a common carrier just like verizon"

Oh yea they're a common carrier on their own private land? What? lol
Yeah, keep making excuses and defending the most blatant neon sign Politically biased Censoring since Nazi Germany and modern-day China.

The poster is not having a good faith discussion.

boomers confused about how the internet works and what a giant loss to GDP the changes they want would cause accusing me of not acting in good faith?

What?

Two minutes ago you were calling twitter a common carrier lol. Which is quite frankly irrelevant to what you want. By no rational standard are they a common carrier.

Revoking section 230 and not replacing it with something very similar would just break the internet and cause a depression
 
Twitter wont censor holocaust deniers or the Ayatollah, but they censor POTUS AND THE PRESS SECRETARY.

One thing we all can do is stop using those platforms.
Agreed. THAT is what needs to happen.

OTH. . . if you have the government regulate twitter? At that point, you MAKE them into a monopoly and give them that power and image of a public utility, you give them special status at that point.

There are certain companies in silicon valley, which, I really do not believe care who wins, but, yes, they are purposely meddling in the election, throwing their weight behind one candidate or another, so that AFTER the election, the government will move, and regulate them.

Once it does, THEY, will then become the status quo.

Remember, once the government went in to break up ATT, or Standard Oil, etc., the folks that owned the companies only became MORE wealthy, and owned more companies and more stock, and became MORE powerful, not less. . .

To become regulated and a state sanctioned monopoly by the government? THAT is what any of these fulks really desire. . . .

. . I think it is all just purposeful trolling.

Date of video; May 14, 2019


Date of video; Aug 10, 2018


. . . wow, it's one big. . . "I told you so."
 
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Twitter wont censor holocaust deniers or the Ayatollah, but they censor POTUS AND THE PRESS SECRETARY.

One thing we all can do is stop using those platforms.
Agreed. THAT is what needs to happen.

OTH. . . if you have the government regulate twitter? At that point, you MAKE them into a monopoly and give them that power and image of a public utility, you give them special status at that point.

There are certain companies in silicon valley, which, I really do not believe care who wins, but, yes, they are purposely meddling in the election, throwing their weight behind one candidate or another, so that AFTER the election, the government will move, and regulate them.

Once it does, THEY, will then become the status quo.

Remember, once the government went in to break up ATT, or Standard Oil, etc., the folks that owned the companies only became MORE wealthy, and owned more companies and more stock, and became MORE powerful, not less. . .

To become regulated and a state sanctioned monopoly by the government? THAT is what any of these fulks really desire. . . .

. . I think it is all just purposeful trolling.



No democrats have just been threatening them they are moderating to try to prevent regulation

10 or even 5 years ago they (big tech) would have all said we just drive engagement and do as little moderation as possible

Porn, snuff, etc

What republicans should have done is thrown a fucking fit to protect big tech's right to drive engagement. Instead we got the sort of moderation that would prevent the left from wanting to intervene.

This is just a bad faith argument. Their money comes from engagement. Moderation runs counter to that goal. They did not want to do it

Twitter cannot get maximum value out fo their users while doing things that aren't directly driving engagement. Same with facebook and all the rest. Moderation is antithetical to their goals unless they think removing content will increase overall engagement. Which is why they remove porn

Monopoly twitter doesn't make more money than free to moderate how tehy want twitter.
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.

You odn't undersatnd the difference between teh state letting verizon take up airwaves on 3g and twitter running a website through private property.

you're a boomer know your place, idiot

"It's a common carrier just like verizon"

Oh yea they're a common carrier on their own private land? What? lol
Yeah, keep making excuses and defending the most blatant neon sign Politically biased Censoring since Nazi Germany and modern-day China.

The poster is not having a good faith discussion.

boomers confused about how the internet works and what a giant loss to GDP the changes they want would cause accusing me of not acting in good faith?

What?

Two minutes ago you were calling twitter a common carrier lol. Which is quite frankly irrelevant to what you want. By no rational standard are they a common carrier.

Revoking section 230 and not replacing it with something very similar would just break the internet and cause a depression

No one is talking about shutting Twitter down, just removing government protections they were given when they were a small 'Start-up', like Google and Facebook.

I believe Twitter should be free to censor, support, block, or delete they want....and Americans and businesses / news like the NY Post should have the right to sue the shit out of them.

God bless America and our freedoms and rights!

:p
 
This is epic. Ted is spot on. I challenge anyone to dispute where Ted is factually not accurate. These Tech giants need to lose 230 protections immediately.


So ted cruz king of the market is confused why a corporation would think it was within their rights to dictate what is and is not shown on their platform? lol

the guys wife is in wall street if memory serves. works for goldman sachs.

Maybe don't use him next time

Do you not know what a platform is?

You mean jack dorsey's business? Is that what you're referring to? lol

just because it grew huge doesn't mean the state has an inherent claim to it.

So, you don't know.
Take the others advice
Educate yourself a little

I am not humoring morons anymore. Its not fun to have to tell someone to educate themselves who is ARROGANTLY STUPID.

I teed it up for him. Now its up to him. If he wont educate himself, he is willingly ignorant and not worth our time.

You odn't undersatnd the difference between teh state letting verizon take up airwaves on 3g and twitter running a website through private property.

you're a boomer know your place, idiot

"It's a common carrier just like verizon"

Oh yea they're a common carrier on their own private land? What? lol
Yeah, keep making excuses and defending the most blatant neon sign Politically biased Censoring since Nazi Germany and modern-day China.

The poster is not having a good faith discussion.

boomers confused about how the internet works and what a giant loss to GDP the changes they want would cause accusing me of not acting in good faith?

What?

Two minutes ago you were calling twitter a common carrier lol. Which is quite frankly irrelevant to what you want. By no rational standard are they a common carrier.

Revoking section 230 and not replacing it with something very similar would just break the internet and cause a depression

No one is talking about shutting Twitter down, just removing government protections they were given when they were a small 'Start-up', like Google and Facebook.

I believe Twitter should be free to censor, support, block, or delete they want....and Americans and businesses / news like the NY Post should have the right to sue the shit out of them.

God bless America and our freedoms and rights!

:p

Removing sectino 230 protections means they will never leave a court room, ever

You won't shut it down

The bill for the lawyers will shut it down, they'll look and say "whelp we can't afford this shutterdown bois"

WHOOOOSH

Yea LEO won't come and take twitter servers. No one was implying that

No one will take usmessageboard servers either. THey'll just shut down because it's now* a vastly greater legal liability. You're opening up every website with user content to civil suit, that means you need to retain lawyers and budget that in. Which means basically every business plan on the net involving user generated content goes up in smoke.

Youtube doesn't even make money as it is. Imagine if they were fielding thousands of suits a day
 
Twitter wont censor holocaust deniers or the Ayatollah, but they censor POTUS AND THE PRESS SECRETARY.

One thing we all can do is stop using those platforms.
Agreed. THAT is what needs to happen.

OTH. . . if you have the government regulate twitter? At that point, you MAKE them into a monopoly and give them that power and image of a public utility, you give them special status at that point.

There are certain companies in silicon valley, which, I really do not believe care who wins, but, yes, they are purposely meddling in the election, throwing their weight behind one candidate or another, so that AFTER the election, the government will move, and regulate them.

Once it does, THEY, will then become the status quo.

Remember, once the government went in to break up ATT, or Standard Oil, etc., the folks that owned the companies only became MORE wealthy, and owned more companies and more stock, and became MORE powerful, not less. . .

To become regulated and a state sanctioned monopoly by the government? THAT is what any of these fulks really desire. . . .

. . I think it is all just purposeful trolling.





I am less interested in individual wealth and more interested in the free exchange of information among people.

If I want to DM my buddy a NY Post article on Hunter Biden, I should be able to. I can text him or talk to him over Verizon. Verizon does not censor texts or phone calls.
 

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