Team Obama said in ’09 stimulus would have unemployment below 6% by 2012

[Conservative]

Let's play a game.

I'll come into your house one day. Take a massive shit for two straight years on your rug. I mean, like every day just taking a massive ******* dump. We're talking like I ate at Chipotle and Taco Bell for six years straight before coming over to your house, dropping my pants, and shitting all over your carpet.

Then I'll give you six months to clean up all the shit.

Oh, and the whole time I'll be blocking every effort you make to clean the shit up.

dumb ass.

 

[Freewill]

That's before it was fully realized how deeply Bush fucked us. He fucked us really long time.

obama and the democrats knew exactly what they were doing the last two years of the Bush white house. They with bush fucked this country up.

If you actually think all of this is becuase of the dems in congress for the last 2 years of the Bush presidency.
Well I am not sure what falls below stupid...

All economic signs dropped after the Democrats took control of Congress, hardly a coincidence.

 

[uscitizen]

So what will be said by the left, and Obama himself, is that the situtation was worse then he thought. Let us say that it is true and the economy was worse. What does that prove? It proves that we were right about Obama and he didn't have the experience or the intellect to be POTUS. Hell he said the same himself: Listen for yourself:

Barack Obama Makes Shocking confession!! - YouTube

Was he lying? Were his lips moving?

Team Obama said in ’09 stimulus would have unemployment below 6% by 2012

Team Obama said in

Today’s news that the unemployment rate moved up to 8.3 percent is as good of a time as time as any to revisit the promises the then-incoming administration made in 2009 regarding the economic stimulus bill. Back then they said the stimulus would have unemployment below 6 percent by now.

Not only that but they claimed that the unemployment would be at that 6 percent level now even if the stimulus bill was not passed. That is, that they predicted the economy would recover to that level naturally. In short, the White Houses

and Team McCain said in 2008 that the economy was fundamentally sound.

Keep up the partisanship and help our country fall on it's face.

IT WAS and would have recovered just as Obama said if they had done nothing. Obama slowed the recovery and hurt us just like we said he would. The longest and weakest recovery in history doing all that Obama wanted, there is NO ONE else to blame.

Bush signed TARP and many republicans supported it.

 

[Full-Auto]

and Team McCain said in 2008 that the economy was fundamentally sound.

Keep up the partisanship and help our country fall on it's face.

IT WAS and would have recovered just as Obama said if they had done nothing. Obama slowed the recovery and hurt us just like we said he would. The longest and weakest recovery in history doing all that Obama wanted, there is NO ONE else to blame.

Bush signed TARP and many republicans supported it.

That was the period of time GW stated he had abandoned his free market principles. His approval rating took another hit.

 

[auditor0007]

So what will be said by the left, and Obama himself, is that the situtation was worse then he thought. Let us say that it is true and the economy was worse. What does that prove? It proves that we were right about Obama and he didn't have the experience or the intellect to be POTUS. Hell he said the same himself: Listen for yourself:

Barack Obama Makes Shocking confession!! - YouTube

Was he lying? Were his lips moving?

Team Obama said in ’09 stimulus would have unemployment below 6% by 2012

Team Obama said in

Today’s news that the unemployment rate moved up to 8.3 percent is as good of a time as time as any to revisit the promises the then-incoming administration made in 2009 regarding the economic stimulus bill. Back then they said the stimulus would have unemployment below 6 percent by now.

Not only that but they claimed that the unemployment would be at that 6 percent level now even if the stimulus bill was not passed. That is, that they predicted the economy would recover to that level naturally. In short, the White Houses

It was wishful thinking based on past recoveries from past recessions. When the recession first hit, I believed that we were in for at least a ten year downturn. This recession was caused by a number of things, the first being the housing collapse. But was only the trigger. What has happened beyond that has been a perfect storm of disaster. While Americans lost trillions of dollars in assets as the value of their homes went up in smoke, the baby boomers all of a sudden realized something, and that was that they no longer needed to buy all kinds of shit and instead needed to really start tightening the screws on their savings for retirement. Some in fact were already beginning to retire. Basically, the driving force of our economy, the baby boomers, stopped buying. Now normally, we would have counted on the next generation to take their place. Young people get married and start having kids, they then buy new homes and bigger cars for their bigger families. The problem is that the kids aren't being hired, and if they are, it is at a much lower pay then they would have expected. On top of that, these same young people coming out of college are buried in student loans, making it impossible for them to think about getting married and starting that family. The young people are about ten years behind the eight ball at the moment.

The bottom line is that the baby boomers are not going to start spending again; they are done. If we want to get this economy moving again, we need to get the young people working, in decent paying jobs. Having them serve tables at Red Robin isn't going to cut it.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

In short, the White Houses

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[Care4all]

IT WAS and would have recovered just as Obama said if they had done nothing. Obama slowed the recovery and hurt us just like we said he would. The longest and weakest recovery in history doing all that Obama wanted, there is NO ONE else to blame.

Bush signed TARP and many republicans supported it.

That was the period of time GW stated he had abandoned his free market principles. His approval rating took another hit.

doesn't the ''free market'' INCLUDE shutting down businesses here and shipping them overseas due to workers making something like $40 A WEEK over 'there' for an 80 work week? That IS the free market you are speaking about fullauto, isn't it?

 

[Freewill]

and Team McCain said in 2008 that the economy was fundamentally sound.

Keep up the partisanship and help our country fall on it's face.

IT WAS and would have recovered just as Obama said if they had done nothing. Obama slowed the recovery and hurt us just like we said he would. The longest and weakest recovery in history doing all that Obama wanted, there is NO ONE else to blame.

Bush signed TARP and many republicans supported it.

Although I don't know if I agree or disagree with TARP, not enough information. TARP was not technically the stimulus that Obama was talking about.

 

[Freewill]

Bush signed TARP and many republicans supported it.

That was the period of time GW stated he had abandoned his free market principles. His approval rating took another hit.

doesn't the ''free market'' INCLUDE shutting down businesses here and shipping them overseas due to workers making something like $40 A WEEK over 'there' for an 80 work week? That IS the free market you are speaking about fullauto, isn't it?

The shipping of jobs overseas is the legacy of William Jefferson Clinton, not GWB. Disaster was predicted when Clinton signed the "free" trade agreements and the chickens have come home to roost. Sure Bush could have done something as could have the democrat controlled congress but they decided not to. That is why none of them should be rewarded with reelection NONE.

 

[Freewill]

So what will be said by the left, and Obama himself, is that the situtation was worse then he thought. Let us say that it is true and the economy was worse. What does that prove? It proves that we were right about Obama and he didn't have the experience or the intellect to be POTUS. Hell he said the same himself: Listen for yourself:

Barack Obama Makes Shocking confession!! - YouTube

Was he lying? Were his lips moving?

Team Obama said in ’09 stimulus would have unemployment below 6% by 2012

Team Obama said in

Today’s news that the unemployment rate moved up to 8.3 percent is as good of a time as time as any to revisit the promises the then-incoming administration made in 2009 regarding the economic stimulus bill. Back then they said the stimulus would have unemployment below 6 percent by now.

Not only that but they claimed that the unemployment would be at that 6 percent level now even if the stimulus bill was not passed. That is, that they predicted the economy would recover to that level naturally. In short, the White Houses

It was wishful thinking based on past recoveries from past recessions. When the recession first hit, I believed that we were in for at least a ten year downturn. This recession was caused by a number of things, the first being the housing collapse. But was only the trigger. What has happened beyond that has been a perfect storm of disaster. While Americans lost trillions of dollars in assets as the value of their homes went up in smoke, the baby boomers all of a sudden realized something, and that was that they no longer needed to buy all kinds of shit and instead needed to really start tightening the screws on their savings for retirement. Some in fact were already beginning to retire. Basically, the driving force of our economy, the baby boomers, stopped buying. Now normally, we would have counted on the next generation to take their place. Young people get married and start having kids, they then buy new homes and bigger cars for their bigger families. The problem is that the kids aren't being hired, and if they are, it is at a much lower pay then they would have expected. On top of that, these same young people coming out of college are buried in student loans, making it impossible for them to think about getting married and starting that family. The young people are about ten years behind the eight ball at the moment.

The bottom line is that the baby boomers are not going to start spending again; they are done. If we want to get this economy moving again, we need to get the young people working, in decent paying jobs. Having them serve tables at Red Robin isn't going to cut it.

Here is the interesting thing about housing prices, they were in a bubble but those who lost money are those who speculated on the housing prices or bought at the wrong time. It was an unsustainable gamble that the "flippers" were taken, I have no sympathy for them. Those who did not buy on the bubble didn't lose a cent.

So no the value of homes did not go up in smoke they merely went where they should have been without the speculators. What also fueled the increase was the government backed loans that people had no hope of paying off. The banks played games with those toxic loans to the point where they were about to die from their own indulgences. They should have been made to pay big time, they were bailed out.

 

[Freewill]

That's before it was fully realized how deeply Bush fucked us. He fucked us really long time.

obama and the democrats knew exactly what they were doing the last two years of the Bush white house. They with bush fucked this country up.

We know that the housing situation was caused by the democrats putting pressure on banks and guaranteeing toxic loans. That is fact there is no dispute. Bush warned them for at least two years that what they were doing would cause failure. The regulators warned them but the democrats continued on. Maybe Bush could have done something but I don't know what they were ignoring him to the point of having no budget. Don't get me wrong the liberals hearts were in the right place they are just too ideologically driven and too uneducated to know what to do. So the results of what their stated intent was exactly the opposite as it always is.

But that is not what the real problem is today. That was started by Clinton. He was riding the greatest economic boom in history started by Ronald Reagan, to that there is no dispute. So in the middle of that what does Clinton sign? "Free" trade agreements. The effects of signing those "free" trade agreements was predicted and we are now seeing the results. That is a fact beyond dispute.

 

[copsnrobbers]

Obama's been nothing but a liar and divider.. Lets just vote him out and wash our hands of the last four years. He can shove that mighty pen of his right up his ass.. and start his shoe selling career.

Obama.. a peddler of Misery.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The President needs to sell the American People on jobs and prosperity....optimism. Here is what is not going to work:

- blaming Bush
- demonizing high income earners
- diminishing small business and entrepreneurship.
- talk of redistibution and "fairness"
- running on the results of his economic policies to date
- talk of "fundamentally transforming America"

Obama and the Democrats own this current economy. Not Bush. Not Reagan. Question is, do swing voters like what they are doing with it and do they trust Obama and the Democrats with it moving forward?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

So what will be said by the left, and Obama himself, is that the situtation was worse then he thought. Let us say that it is true and the economy was worse. What does that prove? It proves that we were right about Obama and he didn't have the experience or the intellect to be POTUS.

.....Until he....
SCHOOLED "conservatives", EN MASSE!!!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y04g6OPLnQ]Obama Dismantles Republican Caucus Part 1 of 7 - YouTube[/ame]

Stupid Fuckin' Teabaggers​

 

[Freewill]

The President needs to sell the American People on jobs and prosperity....optimism. Here is what is not going to work:

- blaming Bush
- demonizing high income earners
- diminishing small business and entrepreneurship.
- talk of redistibution and "fairness"
- running on the results of his economic policies to date
- talk of "fundamentally transforming America"

Obama and the Democrats own this current economy. Not Bush. Not Reagan. Question is, do swing voters like what they are doing with it and do they trust Obama and the Democrats with it moving forward?

What Obama needs is a transformation. Maybe, if he is serious, his study of Ronal Reagan may change him put I don't know if there is time. What he needs do, in my opinion, is explain the American dream or what it was at one time. Here is my definitions that would win him the election if he really believed it. The American dream is allowing people to be all they can be. Allowing the opportunity for people to become as successful as they can. If a person is a failure and never really tried then who are they to blame but themselves.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The President needs to sell the American People on jobs and prosperity....optimism. Here is what is not going to work:

- blaming Bush
- demonizing high income earners
- diminishing small business and entrepreneurship.
- talk of redistibution and "fairness"
- running on the results of his economic policies to date
- talk of "fundamentally transforming America"

Obama and the Democrats own this current economy. Not Bush. Not Reagan. Question is, do swing voters like what they are doing with it and do they trust Obama and the Democrats with it moving forward?

What Obama needs is a transformation. Maybe, if he is serious, his study of Ronal Reagan may change him put I don't know if there is time. What he needs do, in my opinion, is explain the American dream or what it was at one time.

Hell......it wasn't THAT-long-ago, SKIPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!

The PRE-Bu$h-Tax-Cut YEARS!!!!!


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[NYcarbineer]

Conservatives just can't get enough of lying about what that Romer report said.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Conservatives just can't get enough of lying about what that Romer report said.

Obama Context Filter Alert!

 

[uscitizen]

Bush signed TARP and many republicans supported it.

That was the period of time GW stated he had abandoned his free market principles. His approval rating took another hit.

doesn't the ''free market'' INCLUDE shutting down businesses here and shipping them overseas due to workers making something like $40 A WEEK over 'there' for an 80 work week? That IS the free market you are speaking about fullauto, isn't it?

Was channel surfing and paused to watch Ann Coulter yelling that we need Romney to run our country like Bain.

 

[uscitizen]

IT WAS and would have recovered just as Obama said if they had done nothing. Obama slowed the recovery and hurt us just like we said he would. The longest and weakest recovery in history doing all that Obama wanted, there is NO ONE else to blame.

Bush signed TARP and many republicans supported it.

Although I don't know if I agree or disagree with TARP, not enough information. TARP was not technically the stimulus that Obama was talking about.

True, TARP was a bailout.