Teachers Celebrate Death of Charlie Kirk

[westwall]

Too bad, so sad. Maybe you should have studied harder in school so you would make more money!

I once taught in a county with a significant Catholic population. The Diocese had a K-8 school, but no high school. The closest high school was two counties away and an hour and a half bus ride. Where would they go? What if there are no Jewish schools?

What if there are no public buses?

You really have not thought this through, have you?

This is off topic, and detracts from the thread, so I will refrain from any more comments! Thanks for your input!

Typical asshole response.

 

[westwall]

do they only accept Catholics?

No, they accept any denomination.

 

[Hafar1014]

Private schools usually do not have transportation included in their tuition. Are you going to drive your kids to and from school everyday? What makes you think your kid can pass the entrance exams? What if it is a Catholic school and they don't want Jewish kids attending?

Do the private schools pay for qualified teachers or can anybody teach?

They aren't forced. You can send your kids to any private school you want, just don't ask me as a taxpayer to pay for it.

Private schools do better job thats what counts

 

[Lisa558]

Private schools usually do not have transportation included in their tuition. Are you going to drive your kids to and from school everyday? What makes you think your kid can pass the entrance exams? What if it is a Catholic school and they don't want Jewish kids attending?

Do the private schools pay for qualified teachers or can anybody teach?

They aren't forced. You can send your kids to any private school you want, just don't ask me as a taxpayer to pay for it.

You’ve come up with a few minor challenges with vouchers for public schools, but you ignore the BIGGEST problem we have with our public schools: they are doing a terrible job of educating kids. The majority can’t read or do basic math at grade level! They graduate not knowing when the Civil War was, where Canada is on a map, or how to figure out change from a $20 bill.

And your worry is: what if my kid (or anyone’s kid) isn’t smart enough to get into the private school they want? Well, then you have tiers of private schools: a tough one for the bright kids, and an average one for the average kids. That would be a GOOD thing: our most promising youth will not be held back by dumbed-down classes.

And finally, regarding your statement that you don’t want to pay to send other people’s kids to private: we’re already spending $20,000 a year per student for a horrible public education. We simply allot that money to be used for private.

 

[Zebra]

Public schools aren’t. Private schools can be.

same in Germany
but we seem to have fewer of those

 

[Unkotare]

do they only accept Catholics?

No. They accept people of all faiths.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Typical asshole response.

So you can't argue with the logic, so you insult. Typical fake conservative response.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Private schools do better job thats what counts

They do basically the same level of education with the ability to eliminate disciplinary and learning issues, and they require parental involvement. Not a great accomplishment.

 

[Lisa558]

They do basically the same level of education with the ability to eliminate disciplinary and learning issues, and they require parental involvement. Not a great accomplishment.

Private school students do better than those in the government schools: they score higher on academic exams, are more likely to have taken advanced classes, and are more likely to graduate from college.

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[Hafar1014]

They do basically the same level of education with the ability to eliminate disciplinary and learning issues, and they require parental involvement. Not a great accomplishment.

Thats a false excuse used by failed public schools. Public schools omit parental involvement, refuse to expel or deal with behavior problems, have the poorest results even home schooled children have better test scores.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You’ve come up with a few minor challenges with vouchers for public schools, but you ignore the BIGGEST problem we have with our public schools: they are doing a terrible job of educating kids. The majority can’t read or do basic math at grade level! They graduate not knowing when the Civil War was, where Canada is on a map, or how to figure out change from a $20 bill.

And your worry is: what if my kid (or anyone’s kid) isn’t smart enough to get into the private school they want? Well, then you have tiers of private schools: a tough one for the bright kids, and an average one for the average kids. That would be a GOOD thing: our most promising youth will not be held back by dumbed-down classes.

And finally, regarding your statement that you don’t want to pay to send other people’s kids to private: we’re already spending $20,000 a year per student for a horrible public education. We simply allot that money to be used for private.

There's that education critic broad brush again! Majority? Where are your stats showing every school across the nation taking the same tests to determine their competence? Oh, you have no data but ASSUME that to be true!

You want to fund your local terrorist training Madrassa, go right ahead!

You want to fund the Greta Thunberg Academy for Eco-Terrorism?

What if the KKK decided to start a school preaching white power? You want to pay their tuition?

You want to fund charter schools where all of the tuition money is stolen by unqualified administrators?

That would be what you would get if the taxpayer's wallet is pried open!

 

[westwall]

Private schools do better job thats what counts

Far better.

So you can't argue with the logic, so you insult. Typical fake conservative response.

What logic is that? You're one of the most poorly educated "educators" I have ever seen.

You know very little history, your rhetoric is sloppy, math is suspect, science knowledge seems nonexistent, so, I have to wonder, what DID you teach..Home Ec?

 

[Hafar1014]

There's that education critic broad brush again! Majority? Where are your stats showing every school across the nation taking the same tests to determine their competence? Oh, you have no data but ASSUME that to be true!

You want to fund your local terrorist training Madrassa, go right ahead!

You want to fund the Greta Thunberg Academy for Eco-Terrorism?

What if the KKK decided to start a school preaching white power? You want to pay their tuition?

You want to fund charter schools where all of the tuition money is stolen by unqualified administrators?

That would be what you would get if the taxpayer's wallet is pried open!

We want parents to have the right to choose where their children attend school and not be forced into a democrat failed school that thinks its the parents.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Thats a false excuse used by failed public schools. Public schools omit parental involvement, refuse to expel or deal with behavior problems, have the poorest results even home schooled children have better test scores.

Wow, you really like to lie! Homeschooled kids don't take the same tests as public school students, and we did not discourage parental involvement. It is simply not required like it is in private schools. Once you send poor students to these private schools, do you think they can maintain their standards without making those requirements?

Is there a psychological reason for your intent to deceive?

 

[Lisa558]

There's that education critic broad brush again! Majority? Where are your stats showing every school across the nation taking the same tests to determine their competence? Oh, you have no data but ASSUME that to be true!

Wow! Someone sure is overly defensive about failing public education. Ever taken a stats course? We are talking about AVERAGES. Private schools, on average, outshine public schools in many areas of measurement.

You want to fund your local terrorist training Madrassa, go right ahead!

So we should allow the public education system to continue to fail all our students because 1.5% might go to Madrassah?

You want to fund the Greta Thunberg Academy for Eco-Terrorism?

You’re getting ridiculous. The schools where vouchers are accepted would have to be accredited. Terrorism school won’t qualify.

What if the KKK decided to start a school preaching white power? You want to pay their tuition?

Again, won’t qualify.

You want to fund charter schools where all of the tuition money is stolen by unqualified administrators?

Right now I’m paying for idiot administrators and lousy teachers to NOT educate our kids.

That would be what you would get if the taxpayer's wallet is pried open!

The taxpayer’s wallet is already pried open - paying $20,000 a year, and kids can’t read or write. I’d rather get an educated youth for the money.

 

[Lisa558]

Wow, you really like to lie! Homeschooled kids don't take the same tests as public school students, and we did not discourage parental involvement. It is simply not required like it is in private schools. Once you send poor students to these private schools, do you think they can maintain their standards without making those requirements?

Is there a psychological reason for your intent to deceive?

You get really nasty when people don’t want to keep funding a failed government education system.

Is there a psychological reason you have to levy the personal insults?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Private schools usually do not have transportation included in their tuition. Are you going to drive your kids to and from school everyday? What makes you think your kid can pass the entrance exams? What if it is a Catholic school and they don't want Jewish kids attending?

Do the private schools pay for qualified teachers or can anybody teach?

They aren't forced. You can send your kids to any private school you want, just don't ask me as a taxpayer to pay for it.

You're already paying. You're just paying high prices for crap.

Look, we get it: you rail against anything that might interfere with slops going into the trough you have spent most of your life feeding at. You don't CARE that people graduate illiterate, as long as the slops keep coming.

In Florida, we had private school elementary classes being taught by high school dropouts. Would you want them teaching your children?

Depends on the person. I was taught geometry and algebra by a dropout. He understood it far better than the teacher, who I suspect might have failed his own class. Sadly, that was not the first or last incompetent teacher I dealt with.

You’ve come up with a few minor challenges with vouchers for public schools, but you ignore the BIGGEST problem we have with our public schools: they are doing a terrible job of educating kids. The majority can’t read or do basic math at grade level! They graduate not knowing when the Civil War was, where Canada is on a map, or how to figure out change from a $20 bill.

And your worry is: what if my kid (or anyone’s kid) isn’t smart enough to get into the private school they want? Well, then you have tiers of private schools: a tough one for the bright kids, and an average one for the average kids. That would be a GOOD thing: our most promising youth will not be held back by dumbed-down classes.

And finally, regarding your statement that you don’t want to pay to send other people’s kids to private: we’re already spending $20,000 a year per student for a horrible public education. We simply allot that money to be used for private.

He doesn't care. He cares nothing for the students, or the parents. He WANTS the less-wealthy families to be stuck in awful schools, because his ONLY concern is keeping the slops coming so the hogs can gorge.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Far better.

What logic is that? You're one of the most poorly educated "educators" I have ever seen.

You know very little history, your rhetoric is sloppy, math is suspect, science knowledge seems nonexistent, so, I have to wonder, what DID you teach..Home Ec?

Sadly, incompetence isn't remarkable.

You get really nasty when people don’t want to keep funding a failed government education system.

Is there a psychological reason you have to levy the personal insults?

No, a personal one.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We want parents to have the right to choose where their children attend school and not be forced into a democrat failed school that thinks its the parents.

In most cases, the schools are the parents! Ask any teacher about their success at contacting the parents of the students.

In my inner-city middle school (boys only), I taught over a hundred kids. Do you know how many parent-teacher conferences I had where either one of the parents showed up or even the biological parents? I think the number was about 5 over three years and in one case I taught two of the boys for two years. I spoke most often to aunts, uncles and grandparents. I had students where I could not communicate with the parents or even the student himself because Catholic Charities saved these families from the mountains of Burma where they spoke a language unknown to the outside world. We had no translators, nor could we find anyone who would serve as one. How well did that kid do compared to your private school student?

You would really have liked on of my major discipline problems. He was a young refugee from Liberia. Despite their country speaking English, his mother was barely literate. Then we found out the reason for his refugee status. This kid's father was the leader of a Marxist rebel army attempting to overthrow the democratically elected government. That kid wound up being the reason I left the school.

That is the reality in those schools.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Wow! Someone sure is overly defensive about failing public education. Ever taken a stats course? We are talking about AVERAGES. Private schools, on average, outshine public schools in many areas of measurement.

Where is your data?

So we should allow the public education system to continue to fail all our students because 1.5% might go to Madrassah?

How many terrorists does it take to kill you or someone you love

Again, won’t qualify.

How do you know?

Right now I’m paying for idiot administrators and lousy teachers to NOT educate our kids.

How do you know?

The taxpayer’s wallet is already pried open - paying $20,000 a year, and kids can’t read or write. I’d rather get an educated youth for the money.

Taxpayers have some control over curriculum and standards for the teachers in the classroom. Private schools have none. You are paying for bus transportation, sports programs and extracurricular activities in public schools that private schools do not have.