Tea Partiers have a better grasp of science...how embarassing!

[flacaltenn]

Faith? no. A good grasp of mathematics, yes.

What mathematics is used to describe say the "gravity" component of the pinpoint of mass/energy that created the Big Bang? Or the CREATION of all the elements in the atomic chart from pure energy? Is there a doohickey and a designed replicator to do that trick? Why not?

Where were your atoms at the moment of ignition? Were you next to the energy destined to be the methane bogs of some planet in a current adjacent galaxy?

How did all the Starbucks survive economically in a such dense proximity to each other?

C'mon man. There are 3 people in the world who think that math can embrace the implications of the Big Bang.

 

[flacaltenn]

Wow. A law professor says creationists "know" science without giving a single example.

You know what Republicans say about teachers:

Them that can - do.

Them that can't - teach.

He almost makes their point.

Yep.. Doesn't understand the topic, hasn't read it, NOT EVEN THE TITLE, but goes right to the James Carville "smear the messenger" tactic...

Thanks for dropping by...

 

[asterism]

Right after you prove to me that everyone that leans conservative is a Tea Party member. until then you shut up.

Apparently --- only the smarter ones are... It's the MATH SKILLS.. They know the diff between Billions and Trillions..

Thats scary to know. I just thought they were ignorant and harmless. How do they always end up saying stupid stuff on TV that contradicts this study?

Media bias.

Seriously, the establishment Republicans hate the Tea Party more than the folks on the left side of the aisle.

Actual Tea Party members (not necessarily the elected "leaders") are quite diverse and on the average very knowledgeable. I still think they are wrong about their specific policy goals - they aren't fiscally conservative enough for me and they are too socially fascist for me - but I admire them as a group.

This study (by a credentialed left of center academic) is enlightening to those who base their opinion of the Tea Party on media coverage. The author even admits that he doesn't know anyone who is a Tea Party member so that shows how insulated he is. However, the facts don't lie.

 

[asterism]

Being scared of bio-engineering, nuclear power, nanotechnology, or power lines also doesn't show much knowledge of science..

Hard to accept the Big Bang without some kind of faith.. All of the matter and energy in the Universe located in a space the size of a pinhead?? Suuuuure... God parting the Red Sea for Moses is more intuitive with the laws of science we experience...

gravity can do some amazing things.

You obviously don't understand the theories regarding the origin of the universe. It wasn't gravity that did the "amazing thing" of having the entire universe expand from a single point.

Here's a hint for you: when you drop a ball does it go toward the big thing nearby or away from it?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

"
Kahan wrote that not only did the findings surprise him, they embarrassed him.
“I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension,” Kahan wrote.
“But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the tea party,” he continued. “All my impressions come from watching cable tv — & I don’t watch Fox News very often — and reading the ‘paper’ (New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused Internet sites like Huffington Post and POLITICO). I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly, I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”

Read more: Eureka! Tea partiers know science - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com



They also have a firmer grasp of what our Constitution represents, but that's for another shocking study down the road.....
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I have noticed that I know more science than anyone who debates with me about it, which is actually pretty sad, especially since at least one of them claims to have a PhD in it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'm nominally a Republican with many little "l" libertarian leanings, so I guess that makes me a Tea Party Republican. I'm also a physics student, so I guess I have some grasp of scientific issues. I'm also a firm proponent of evolution, because it's right.

As long as we understand that we can be wrong about evolution, even if it is right.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

"
Kahan wrote that not only did the findings surprise him, they embarrassed him.
“I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension,” Kahan wrote.
“But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the tea party,” he continued. “All my impressions come from watching cable tv — & I don’t watch Fox News very often — and reading the ‘paper’ (New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused Internet sites like Huffington Post and POLITICO). I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly, I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view.”

Read more: Eureka! Tea partiers know science - Tal Kopan - POLITICO.com



They also have a firmer grasp of what our Constitution represents, but that's for another shocking study down the road.....
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I do not find this surprising. Liberals take the football classes in college, and they work in schools and colleges where the pay is squat. People who want to make money choose professions that are heavy on the math and science requirements. The biology classes the future (liberal) teachers took wouldn't even count toward my degree.

Think about it.

Doctors, nurses, businessmen, engineers, and even lawyers. Yes, the L-SAT tests future lawyers for their spatial reasoning. I didn't understand why until I went to law school. The moneyed professions require you take those math and science classes.

The study actually said liberals were more intelligent on average but specifically Tea Party members by themselves were even higher than liberals. So it was a subset of conservatives not the entire bunch.

on average, people who leaned liberal were more science literate than those who leaned conservative.

The study did not say liberals were smarter, it just says that, on the average, they were more literate about science. In other words, they accept evolution because someone told them it is true.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Right after you prove to me that everyone that leans conservative is a Tea Party member. until then you shut up.

Apparently --- only the smarter ones are... It's the MATH SKILLS.. They know the diff between Billions and Trillions..

Thats scary to know. I just thought they were ignorant and harmless. How do they always end up saying stupid stuff on TV that contradicts this study?

The same way Obama keeps saying stupid stuff you don't call him on, it takes a lot of work to never say anything stupid.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

denying Evolution, The Big Bang Theory, and contraception doesn't show much knowledge of science.

Being you shows even less.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Faith? no. A good grasp of mathematics, yes.

There is no math that describes the Big Bang.

 

[Unkotare]

Being scared of bio-engineering, nuclear power, nanotechnology, or power lines also doesn't show much knowledge of science..

Hard to accept the Big Bang without some kind of faith.. All of the matter and energy in the Universe located in a space the size of a pinhead?? Suuuuure... God parting the Red Sea for Moses is more intuitive with the laws of science we experience...

gravity can do some amazing things.

Dark energy is fueling our accelerating expansion. But the fundamental question remains. Some people reject an answer because they can't understand it, or are afraid.

 

[Unkotare]

Faith? no. A good grasp of mathematics, yes.

There is no math that describes the Big Bang.

By definition, any math we can understand breaks down right there at the singularity.

 

[Asclepias]

Thats scary to know. I just thought they were ignorant and harmless. How do they always end up saying stupid stuff on TV that contradicts this study?

Apparently, you're not bright enough to realize you're being fed a carefully-crafted vision of the TEA Party by people with a vested interest in portraying them in a bad light.

Trust that I realize both sides carefully craft bad images of each other. However, the Tea Party has had some real humdingers you have to admit. My personal favorite:

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways of shutting that whole thing down.” -Todd Akin

15 Mind-Numbingly Dumb Things TEApublicans Have Said Lately | Americans Against the Tea Party

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Faith? no. A good grasp of mathematics, yes.

What mathematics is used to describe say the "gravity" component of the pinpoint of mass/energy that created the Big Bang? Or the CREATION of all the elements in the atomic chart from pure energy? Is there a doohickey and a designed replicator to do that trick? Why not?

Where were your atoms at the moment of ignition? Were you next to the energy destined to be the methane bogs of some planet in a current adjacent galaxy?

How did all the Starbucks survive economically in a such dense proximity to each other?

C'mon man. There are 3 people in the world who think that math can embrace the implications of the Big Bang.

Math can embrace it, but we can't do the math.

Yet.

 

[edthecynic]

Yes. That's what it said. Tea Partiers are better versed in science than liberals.

No it didn't! It made absolutely no comparison between Libs and the Tea Bag Brotherhood. Your false claim only proves the ignorance of the Right!

It compared Baggers to NON-Baggers, not Libs. The NON-Baggers included the smarter Libs and the dumber CON$ dragging down the Libs score. IOW, it was a comparison between Baggers and Libs with NON-Bagger CON$.

You could REASON this from the study if you had any simple arithmetic skills. Each chart has the breakdown of the sample's participants in the upper right corner. In the Libs/CON$ chart there were 1168 Libs and 1148 CON$ for a total of 2,316. In the Bagger chart there were 430 Baggers and 1886 NON-Baggers for a total of 2,316.

A comparison between Baggers and Libs would have had 430 Baggers and 1168 Libs for a total of 1,598. Since no such study was done then only a stupid fool would claim the study said Baggers were better versed in science than Libs!!!!!

 

[koshergrl]

Are liberals tea partiers?

no?

then tea partiers are better versed in science than liberals.

All that hysterical screeching for nothing, ed. Take a midol.

 

[edthecynic]

Are liberals tea partiers?

no?

then tea partiers are better versed in science than liberals.

All that hysterical screeching for nothing, ed. Take a midol.

Are all CON$ part of the Tea Bag Brotherhood?

NO!

Then you are a stupid idiot to say the study "said" Baggers are better versed in science than liberals. In fact YOU are proof that Baggers lack even the most basic reasoning skills and therefore the study is flawed since reasoning skills are essential for science.
Thank you!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Are liberals tea partiers?

no?

then tea partiers are better versed in science than liberals.

All that hysterical screeching for nothing, ed. Take a midol.

Are all CON$ part of the Tea Bag Brotherhood?

NO!

Then you are a stupid idiot to say the study "said" Baggers are better versed in science than liberals. In fact YOU are proof that Baggers lack even the most basic reasoning skills and therefore the study is flawed since reasoning skills are essential for science.
Thank you!

I can run rings around you in my sleep in any field of science you want, even the ones I don't understand.

 

[edthecynic]

Are liberals tea partiers?

no?

then tea partiers are better versed in science than liberals.

All that hysterical screeching for nothing, ed. Take a midol.

Are all CON$ part of the Tea Bag Brotherhood?

NO!

Then you are a stupid idiot to say the study "said" Baggers are better versed in science than liberals. In fact YOU are proof that Baggers lack even the most basic reasoning skills and therefore the study is flawed since reasoning skills are essential for science.
Thank you!

Tea Bag Brotherhood "logic:"
The study does NOT compare Baggers to Libs, therefore THE STUDY SAYS Baggers are better versed in science than liberals.

 

[edthecynic]

Are liberals tea partiers?

no?

then tea partiers are better versed in science than liberals.

All that hysterical screeching for nothing, ed. Take a midol.

Are all CON$ part of the Tea Bag Brotherhood?

NO!

Then you are a stupid idiot to say the study "said" Baggers are better versed in science than liberals. In fact YOU are proof that Baggers lack even the most basic reasoning skills and therefore the study is flawed since reasoning skills are essential for science.
Thank you!

I can run rings around you in my sleep in any field of science you want, even the ones I don't understand.

Sure, in your DREAMS you can do anything!