Taxes

[Flopper]

No, it is not the taxes. That is why I propose a separation between corporations and state that Liberals want, and while corporations will pay no taxes, they will reap no benefits from government, and own no lands. Let them stand on their own, or fall. This will eliminate most of the legislation of congress and the laws of the IRS, and significantly shrink the size of government and pentagon costs.

Further we can eliminate the Stock Market that deprives American workers of a living wage and benefits for their families, while adding nothing to the economy.

Without the stock market, publicly held corporations would not be practical since there would be no market for the shares of ownership. In essence business would have to be owned by the government, single proprietors, partnerships, or private corporations. None of these options would be workable in our economy.

 

[shintao]

Liberals are up to their eyeballs in crony/corporate love sharing too, shintao. Corporate welfare is blind also when it comes to party lines.

Have to end the delusions sometime or become buried in a corporate government.

 

[Flopper]

European nations already have all the new and higher taxes American socialists want, and they have no military on par with the US, and they are still insolvent.

It's not the taxes.

To cut a deficit, there are only two options. Cut spending or increase revenue. If Congress could cut spending without wrecking the economy, then that would be a preferable solution. However, when Congress cannot cut spending the only alternative it to increase taxes.

The income tax has never been lower. Nearly half the country pays nothing due tax credits, deductions, and low rates. The sensible political solution would be a package of tax increases accompanied by spending cuts.

Tax increases never keep pace with spending.

They could. All it would take is a balance budget amendment.

 

[shintao]

Corporations can move anywhere in the world they want. Working class stiffs can't.

Lucky for working stiffs, they can start businesses and fill voids left by corporations. That is good ol capitalism at its finest, so not to worry. The more workers who start businesses, the less workers will be unemployed.

 

[Revere]

How is that working out so far, I mean smalll businesses starting up and compensating for the bottom dropping out of employment?

 

[shintao]

No, it is not the taxes. That is why I propose a separation between corporations and state that Liberals want, and while corporations will pay no taxes, they will reap no benefits from government, and own no lands. Let them stand on their own, or fall. This will eliminate most of the legislation of congress and the laws of the IRS, and significantly shrink the size of government and pentagon costs.

Further we can eliminate the Stock Market that deprives American workers of a living wage and benefits for their families, while adding nothing to the economy.

Without the stock market, publicly held corporations would not be practical since there would be no market for the shares of ownership. In essence business would have to be owned by the government, single proprietors, partnerships, or private corporations. None of these options would be workable in our economy.

I see no problem with that, and more of a problem with billions out of circulation, trillions given away and banks folding or being bailed out, where the loans should come from after being scrutinized by Bankers for credit worthiness. Single proprietors are the Libertarian way of individualism America was built on, correct? Cons love it! Government not be involved, as I just said separation of corporate & state. A business makes it on it's own with good fiscal responsibility watched by lender banks, or it fails, it is not my problem. The more small businesses created, the more workers that are needed.

 

[Revere]

Obama added $3T in new debt, and now he wants Repubilcans to pay for it with higher taxes.

 

[8537]

What a ******* sob story

Guess what dumbass, I'm working poor and I don't pay a god damn dime in taxes.

As a matter of fact I MADE $230 dollars profit last year in by doing my taxes.

I, me, are not paying our fair share to live in the country.

If that whiney ***** wants to help, tell that asshole to pay his people more or hire more people to do whatever he can think of.

you didn't contribute 7.65% of every dollar in wages to the government?

Isn't that the "Social Security Trust Fund?"

Or is the mask off on that fraud now, too?

"that's" a 7.65% tax on income in order to redistribute to current retirees, like just about any insurance or pension program.

 

[Revere]

The bottom 50% of earners pay no Federal income taxes. Of course, they want someone else to pay more taxes.

 

[shintao]

How is that working out so far, I mean smalll businesses starting up and compensating for the bottom dropping out of employment?

It won't work yet, because we keep feeding corporations aid. Don't expect it to get any better until you take the corporate funnel away. You can't give one kid $50. for jeans, and think the other kid can buy them to. It is just not logical.

How are those trillions to wallstreet & banks working out? Did they hire the unemployed?

 

[Revere]

Wall Street and the banks are back in business, thanks to Obama.

 

[shintao]

The bottom 50% of earners pay no Federal income taxes. Of course, they want someone else to pay more taxes.

I agree, everybody should pay the same amount of taxes as the poor in our society can afford. If it is only $50, a year, then we all pay $50., but everybody pays the same.

 

[shintao]

Wall Street and the banks are back in business, thanks to Obama.

Maybe we need a fourth branch of government to hold the purse strings and decide what will be spent, and what will be laughed at, to keep a fiscal Logical balanced budget.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Speaking of corporate welfare, GM, Chrysler, banks and Wall Street were all bailed out. Talk about government/corporate collusion. Hell, I was against that from day 1 yet government pumped in billions to corporations when they should have failed or figured out a way to survive without government wic stamps.

 

[shintao]

Speaking of corporate welfare, GM, Chrysler, banks and Wall Street were all bailed out. Talk about government/corporate collusion. Hell, I was against that from day 1 yet government pumped in billions to corporations when they should have failed or figured out a way to survive without government wic stamps.

I agree.

 

[Cuyo]

Speaking of corporate welfare, GM, Chrysler, banks and Wall Street were all bailed out. Talk about government/corporate collusion. Hell, I was against that from day 1 yet government pumped in billions to corporations when they should have failed or figured out a way to survive without government wic stamps.

Unfortunately, it was absolutely necessary at the time to prevent a further collapse - You're not gonna find a whole helluva lot of edumacated people who disagree with that. Most of that money is coming back, btw.

The way they've behaved with their taxpayer funded fresh start, on the other hand, is nothing short of reprehensible.

 

[Flopper]

No, it is not the taxes. That is why I propose a separation between corporations and state that Liberals want, and while corporations will pay no taxes, they will reap no benefits from government, and own no lands. Let them stand on their own, or fall. This will eliminate most of the legislation of congress and the laws of the IRS, and significantly shrink the size of government and pentagon costs.

Further we can eliminate the Stock Market that deprives American workers of a living wage and benefits for their families, while adding nothing to the economy.

Without the stock market, publicly held corporations would not be practical since there would be no market for the shares of ownership. In essence business would have to be owned by the government, single proprietors, partnerships, or private corporations. None of these options would be workable in our economy.

I see no problem with that, and more of a problem with billions out of circulation, trillions given away and banks folding or being bailed out, where the loans should come from after being scrutinized by Bankers for credit worthiness. Single proprietors are the Libertarian way of individualism America was built on, correct? Cons love it! Government not be involved, as I just said separation of corporate & state. A business makes it on it's own with good fiscal responsibility watched by lender banks, or it fails, it is not my problem. The more small businesses created, the more workers that are needed.

I agree, the more small business, the better. The problem that a small business runs into as it grows is that it can not raise enough capital by borrowing from the bank. Then there is a need for new investors which leads to a publicly owned business which means you need a market for the shares of ownership.

 

[Cuyo]

Without the stock market, publicly held corporations would not be practical since there would be no market for the shares of ownership. In essence business would have to be owned by the government, single proprietors, partnerships, or private corporations. None of these options would be workable in our economy.

I see no problem with that, and more of a problem with billions out of circulation, trillions given away and banks folding or being bailed out, where the loans should come from after being scrutinized by Bankers for credit worthiness. Single proprietors are the Libertarian way of individualism America was built on, correct? Cons love it! Government not be involved, as I just said separation of corporate & state. A business makes it on it's own with good fiscal responsibility watched by lender banks, or it fails, it is not my problem. The more small businesses created, the more workers that are needed.

I agree, the more small business, the better. The problem that a small business runs into as it grows is that it can not raise enough capital by borrowing from the bank. Then there is a need for new investors which leads to a publicly owned business which means you need a market for the shares of ownership.

Most small businesses fail. They just don't have the buying resources of their larger counterparts. A larger firm moving into a market can usually clear out existing small businesses already in that market rather easily.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Never read shit from the HuffPuff, it rots what little brain you have.

Reasons exist for those numbers and trends, and you are on the wrong side of history.

 

[shintao]

Obama added $3T in new debt, and now he wants Repubilcans to pay for it with higher taxes.

OK, we have debt we have to pay for, so we all pay the same amount as the poorest among us, if it takes forever to pay it off. You shouldn't have to pay more than the poorest among us.