.... 'Take Aways' on the Mar-A-Largo affadavit.....

[Chillicothe]

Sure, lots of threads and posts about the search and now the publication of the redacted affidavit vis-a-vis Mar-A-Largo documents are on this chatroom.

As has been posted previously on other topics, today's big-league news organizations frequently employ a 'Just-The-Facts-Ma'Am' approach to reporting on complicated and nuanced news. Meaning, they boil down to what they think are the most relevant aspects of a story with the belief that Americans don't want to spend an hour reading a 'deep-dive' piece on a story that is evolving and changing daily. So we see them offering reportage under the rubric of "5 Takeaways on XXX", or "3 Takeaways"....or pared down even further "Takeaways".

And so it is with yeserday's publication of the redacted version of that affidavit.

I will link to four such 'Reader's Digest'-type reportages: The New York Times; The Washington Post; The Hill; and a version offered by Lawfare.

Here are the first two in this post. And then the last two...The Hill, and Lawfare in the next post:

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1. The government tried to retrieve the documents for more than a year.

2. The material included highly classified documents.​

3. Prosecutors are concerned about obstruction and witness intimidation.​

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/trump-search-takeaways.html

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1. 184 classified documents, including some top secret, were once at Mar-a-Lago
2. The Justice Department is suspicious of obstruction by Trump or his allies
3. It’s possible Trump allies were talking to the FBI about all this
4. What’s missing
5. We still don’t know why Trump wanted these documents
6. The full affidavit is a road map to potential prosecution

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/26/takeaways-redacted-affidavit-trump-

 

[Chillicothe]

1. Agents believed Mar-a-Lago housed more classified documents, evidence of ‘obstruction’
2. Extensive redactions leave DOJ’s ‘probable cause’ basis largely unknown
3. Trump mischaracterized level of cooperation with federal officials
4. The affidavit offers new details on classified records previously recovered from Trump
5. Why Trump held on to classified materials a mystery

Five takeaways from the Mar-a-Lago search affidavit

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What Did We Learn from the Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Affidavit?​

What Did We Learn from the Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Affidavit?

While the most important details remain redacted, the unsealed affidavit still sheds a bit more light on the Justice Department’s case.

www.lawfareblog.com

 

[Orangecat]

Would you like a side of emo-angst with that nothingburger, ma'am?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Sure, lots of threads and posts about the search and now the publication of the redacted affidavit vis-a-vis Mar-A-Largo documents.

As has been posted previously on other topics, today's big-league news organizations frequently employ a 'Just-The-Facts-Ma'Am' approach to reporting on complicated and nuanced news. Meaning, they boil down to what they think are the most relevant aspects of a story with the belief that Americans don't want to spend an hour reading a 'deep-dive' piece on a story that is evolving and changing daily. So we see them offering reportage under the rubric of "5 Takeaways on XXX", or "3 Takeaways"....or pared down even further "Takeaways".

And so it is with yeserday's publication of the redacted version of that affidavit.

I will link to four such 'Reader's Digest'-type reportages: The New York Times; The Washington Post; The Hill; and a version offered by Lawfare.

Here are the first two in this post. And then the last two...The Hill, and Lawfare in the next post:

===================================================================================

1. The government tried to retrieve the documents for more than a year.

2. The material included highly classified documents.​

3. Prosecutors are concerned about obstruction and witness intimidation.​

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/trump-search-takeaways.html

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1. 184 classified documents, including some top secret, were once at Mar-a-Lago
2. The Justice Department is suspicious of obstruction by Trump or his allies
3. It’s possible Trump allies were talking to the FBI about all this
4. What’s missing
5. We still don’t know why Trump wanted these documents
6. The full affidavit is a road map to potential prosecution

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/26/takeaways-redacted-affidavit-trump-

How can a document be "highly classified" if the documents were de-classified?

 

[Chillicothe]

How can a document be "highly classified" if the documents were de-classified?

That could be an oxymoron; however, serious minded and credentialed legal opinionizers seem to disagree on whether any of these documents were 'de-classified'....with no record or notification prior that they were.

• Some say that a POTUS....while in office...can just think in his mind they are "de-classified" and ipso facto....they would be.
• Others believe that America's secrets are secret for a reason and safeguards about their use, handling, and protection are more germane, and supersede any one individual -- whose motives in handling our secrets are unknown; and claims of 'de-classification' today are ex post facto tactics intended to obscure.

 

[Chillicothe]

Would you like a side of emo-angst with that nothingburger...?

After reading the offered links, poster Orange, what is your analysis of each publications reportage?

 

[cnm]

How can a document be "highly classified" if the documents were de-classified?

If Biden thinks them classified, Shirley, using Trump logic...

 

[Orangecat]

After reading the offered links, poster Orange, what is your analysis of each publications reportage?

I've already done that. My analysis is "nothingburger". Try to keep up.

 

[Doc7505]

How can a document be "highly classified" if the documents were de-classified?

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It's obvious that the FBI/STASI refuse the fact that as president DJT had the right to declassify said information.
What this administration and their politicized STASI-DOJ/FBI are telling American voters is that they have not and do not recognize the four years of the Trump administration, nor their authority.
All the persecution of Donald Trump by the Maoist Democrat Socialists of America has been designed to denigrate and delegitimize Trump.
America no longer has equal justice under the knee of the Maoist Democrat Socialists of America.
In the 21st Century American citizens no longer have justice; We've returned to the injustices of the 18th century and the despotic forms of the ruling class.
This is what our forefathers fought and shed their blood to gain.

 

[cnm]

It's obvious that the FBI/STASI refuse the fact that as president DJT had the right to declassify said information.

Therefore, Biden has the right to classify it and if he says it's classified, it is.

 

[Doc7505]

Therefore, Biden has the right to classify it and if he says it's classified, it is.

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Wrong!
In doing so Joey Xi Bai Dung has usurped the Constitution, and the law.
By doing so, Joey Xi opens himself and every "Democrat" to the same methods he's used against Trump once he leaves office and Republicans become the majority.

 

[cnm]

What? Biden can't classify information but Trump can declassify it? The Kool Aid has finally got in.

 

[cnm]

In doing so Joey Xi Bai Dung has usurped the Constitution, and the law.

Ah, the logic of prezels. Nothing finer.

Next we'll see the Doc disappear up his own orifice.

 

[cnm]

This is what our forefathers fought and shed their blood to gain.

What bullshit. Your forefathers were sent as cannon fodder to achieve hegemony.

Is that why you shot up third worlders in Vietnam, for 'equal justice'?

 

[MarathonMike]

Sure, lots of threads and posts about the search and now the publication of the redacted affidavit vis-a-vis Mar-A-Largo documents are on this chatroom.

As has been posted previously on other topics, today's big-league news organizations frequently employ a 'Just-The-Facts-Ma'Am' approach to reporting on complicated and nuanced news. Meaning, they boil down to what they think are the most relevant aspects of a story with the belief that Americans don't want to spend an hour reading a 'deep-dive' piece on a story that is evolving and changing daily. So we see them offering reportage under the rubric of "5 Takeaways on XXX", or "3 Takeaways"....or pared down even further "Takeaways".

And so it is with yeserday's publication of the redacted version of that affidavit.

I will link to four such 'Reader's Digest'-type reportages: The New York Times; The Washington Post; The Hill; and a version offered by Lawfare.

Here are the first two in this post. And then the last two...The Hill, and Lawfare in the next post:

===================================================================================

1. The government tried to retrieve the documents for more than a year.

2. The material included highly classified documents.​

3. Prosecutors are concerned about obstruction and witness intimidation.​

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/us/trump-search-takeaways.html

=====================================================================================

1. 184 classified documents, including some top secret, were once at Mar-a-Lago
2. The Justice Department is suspicious of obstruction by Trump or his allies
3. It’s possible Trump allies were talking to the FBI about all this
4. What’s missing
5. We still don’t know why Trump wanted these documents
6. The full affidavit is a road map to potential prosecution

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/26/takeaways-redacted-affidavit-trump-

What's missing is the Mar A Lago raid is just the latest bucket of chum the Democrats have tossed in the water. GOBBLE GOBBLE YUM YUM!!!!!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This has nothing to do with classified documents. This has to do with the global cabal squashing any remaining vestige of sovereignty.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

What bullshit. Your forefathers were sent as cannon fodder to achieve hegemony.

Is that why you shot up third worlders in Vietnam, for 'equal justice'?

No they weren't. Most of the founders were affluent upstanding people who had everything to lose and most of them lost everything. Had nothing to do with hegemony.

 

[Doc7505]

What bullshit. Your forefathers were sent as cannon fodder to achieve hegemony.

Is that why you shot up third worlders in Vietnam, for 'equal justice'?

You are of course referring to the war begun by your favorite go to racist President Lyndon Baines Johnson (Dem Tx)

 

[Chillicothe]

Well, this topic, like some others of late, seems to have a degree of contentiousness attached.
So be it. That's life in today's interweb social media.

But more important than anyone's partisan hissyfit is the reality that America's secrets are secret for a reason.

For example, those secrets classified as Top Secret with compartmentalized dissemination controls are our highest level of security. And those levels protect what are considered the crown jewels of America. For example, the compartment designation 'HCS'...indicates human intelligence, HUMINT. Spies. People in other countries who spy for the U.S. and are at dire risk of imprisonment and/or death by their governments. Everyone here who can fog a mirror understands the sensitivity of that kind of a secret.

Yet, in the Mar-A-Lago tranche of documents were Top Secret /HCS documents. And alarmingly under the supposed control of a man who has long had a reputation of treating classified information and the people who gather it with a sloppiness and dismissiveness no other president has exhibited (witness, the revelations to Lavrov and Kisylak in the Oval Office in May 2017 of sensitive communications from Israel.) (Witness his denigration of our intelligence agencies from the podium at the meeting with Putin in Vietnam in 2017).

Clearly, clearly.......our 'crown jewels' cannot be subject to some disgruntled former employee who knows about them...who could then reveal them through either ignorance, carelessness, or mendacity. America and America's secrets are more important than one single unhappy fired employee. America's crown jewels are more vital to America and our national security than to be housed in a spare storage room at a beach resort.

Duh!!

IMHO

 

[cnm]

No they weren't. Most of the founders were affluent upstanding people who had everything to lose and most of them lost everything. Had nothing to do with hegemony.

The founders had sufficient speculating surveyors who wanted to expand into the treaty grounds of the Indians. That's hegemony and it's never stopped.