Susan Rice Said Yesterday On MSNBC That Obama Ordered Intel Collection In January. Trump Was Right

[The Original Tree]

If Susan Rice's Job is to Lie To The American Public about Spying on an Incoming President and then leaking classified information, and illegally unmasking members of The Trump Team they illegally targeted for surveillance then she did her job about as well as Joseph Goebbels did.

^ Joseph Goebbels

He was good at his job.
And a Historic Villain & Proficient Liar and Propagandist!
Now Rice gets to join that club.
Maybe in a different context, but she definitely gets a membership pin.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Again.... Consciousness of guilt is best proved by false exculpatory statements. That’s a genre in which Susan Rice has rich experience. Two weeks ago, she was asked in an interview about allegations by Devin Nunes that the Obama administration had unmasked Trump-team members. “I know nothing about this,” Rice replied. “I was surprised to see reports from Nunes on that count today.” Well, at least she didn’t blame it on a video. Combine that with

They were minimized until there as a security issue requiring the name to be unmasked.

Purview of intelligence agencies (namely NSA) to decide on "minimization" NOT WH staff (Rice)

Exactly. That's why she had to request the name to be unmasked.

I wonder what gave her the idea that she's authorized to conduct investigations into criminal wrongdoing.
It's that the FBI's job???

She was doing her job in reading intelligence reports. Trump has been a part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It stands to reason that intelligence reports would also include information pertinent to that investigation. It's her job to keep the President apprised on the subject.

Bull ******* shit!!!!

They didn’t even get an okay from the FISA court for surveillance until last October.

You seem to forget that they have no right to be monitoring Americans' communications without a warrant. If the NSA captures any they're not allowed to keep it, much less spread it around without a court order. They have to provide probable cause to a judge before they can go rooting around or developing spreadsheets on political opponents. I guess they decided that the laws were preventing them from spying on Trump so they ignored them.

What FISA warrant?

You idiots are so convoluted with this shit. Not a one of you has even a simple understanding. You're conflating all sorts of shit that has nothing to do with each other.


These are existing intelligence reports of existing intercepts from existing warrants.
They were masked by the agency that collected them and made the reports.

Rice had to request that the reporting agency unmask the names. The fact that it was granted shows clearly that is was done properly.
Simply unmasking the names so as to get a clearer picture of the report is no no way spying. Only the person who requested the unmasking is permitted to see it. They don't even get a copy let alone have the ability to forward it to anyone else.

So, I have no ******* idea what you are saying or trying to say.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If Susan Rice's Job is to Lie To The American Public about Spying on an Incoming President and then leaking classified information, and illegally unmasking members of The Trump Team they illegally targeted for surveillance then she did her job about as well as Joseph Goebbels did.

^ Joseph Goebbels

He was good at his job.
And a Historic Villain & Proficient Liar and Propagandist!
Now Rice gets to join that club.
Maybe in a different context, but she definitely gets a membership pin.

Dude, you're doing a fair impression with your made up shit.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I didn't have to photo shop Hitler and Goebbels.
And it was even in color.

Yeah, they took selfies in 1940.

 

[kwc57]

You will

So you admit Trump was correct.
The problem with all of this isn't that Trump officials were talking to foreigners. Show me law that states a private businessman isn’t allowed to talk to Russians.

The problem is what Obama did with this information. He was supposed to safeguard it and instead he made sure it was spread all over the place....by Executive Order. We have his own actions on paper as proof. Obama amended Executive Order 12333 just over a week before leaving office to allow the sharing of raw data with officials other than the NSA. This opened the door to allow someone like Susan Rice to gather raw data on the Trump transition team. Before only NSA officials were allowed to know the names of Americans that were monitored. FISA court rules were relaxed to the point that all Susan Rice had to say was this was a matter of national security. No warrants.

You really are confused, aren't you? Or are you just desperately trying to twist the facts? Businessmen can talk to all the Russians they want, but if those Russians happen to be known foreign agents, they will be recorded.

Nothing Obama did had any effect at all on Susan Rices ability to gather raw data on foreign agents conversations, even if they were conversations with Trump's team. Only an idiot would think they could speak to foreign agents without being listened to. Of course we are talking about Trump's team, sooooooo.

The problem is it's been going on for a year and then it's very unusual for someone as high up as Rice to ask for the unmasking of a US citizen, unless terrorism or something was going on. For Obama to not know is stupid, no one with a brain buys it. But then info got leaked to their good buddies in the media starting about then to destroy Trump. That's some serious laws broken.

Sooooooo....you're full of it.

It is Obama's job to protect our country from foreign enemies, he did. It is the medias job to cover scandal and to reveal crooks, they are. It is NOT okay from trump to collude with russia against our country. That's where the serious laws breaking come into play.

So you've actually seen evidence? Please share it. Because all I've ever HEARD was rumor, innuendo and wishes. So I'd love to SEE and READ the evidence you have.

You will, and you won't love it.

When? So far, no one that wishes it to be true has been able to actually produce anything. It's smoke.

 

[jc456]

So Trump was right. Susan Rice admits in this interview that President Obama ordered in January this year the compilation of the reports that Susan Rice used to unmask Trump officials. She admits this 7 mins into this interview. A couple of weeks ago Susan Rice claimed this didn't happen.

Obama ordered this and whoever orders the unmasking of Americans would be the only person that would see the results, according to Susan Rice.



So Trump was fundamentally correct when he tweeted that Obama wiretapped him.....of course at the time Trump didn't know how. Evelyn Farkas said that they needed to collect all of this 'good intelligence' to keep Trump from finding out how. No we know.

The security agencies were listening to foreign agents. If those foreign agents we talking to someone in Trump tower, they were recorded. What is wrong with that? Should Trump, or anyone who happened to have been in his building have been given a special immunity to standard security procedures?

No, they should be granted the same constitutional protections every other American citizen has, which is to have their identities minimized when they are incidentally recorded. That's the way it's supposed to work.

They were minimized until there as a security issue requiring the name to be unmasked.

What was the security issue?

If you haven't done enough research to know that, then you need to do a little and then come back. Here is a good place to start. This will answer that question, and probably a lot more.
Susan Rice speaks out on 'unmasking' accusations: 'I leaked nothing to nobody'

funny she's saying she leaked them. she used a double negative which becomes a positive. so she did leak the names.

no, you don't get to deflect. what was found to be the security issue pal. you fking don't have anything because there is nothing. it's all make believe. I know it.

 

[mudwhistle]

Again.... Consciousness of guilt is best proved by false exculpatory statements. That’s a genre in which Susan Rice has rich experience. Two weeks ago, she was asked in an interview about allegations by Devin Nunes that the Obama administration had unmasked Trump-team members. “I know nothing about this,” Rice replied. “I was surprised to see reports from Nunes on that count today.” Well, at least she didn’t blame it on a video. Combine that with
Purview of intelligence agencies (namely NSA) to decide on "minimization" NOT WH staff (Rice)

Exactly. That's why she had to request the name to be unmasked.

I wonder what gave her the idea that she's authorized to conduct investigations into criminal wrongdoing.
It's that the FBI's job???

She was doing her job in reading intelligence reports. Trump has been a part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It stands to reason that intelligence reports would also include information pertinent to that investigation. It's her job to keep the President apprised on the subject.

Bull ******* shit!!!!

They didn’t even get an okay from the FISA court for surveillance until last October.

You seem to forget that they have no right to be monitoring Americans' communications without a warrant. If the NSA captures any they're not allowed to keep it, much less spread it around without a court order. They have to provide probable cause to a judge before they can go rooting around or developing spreadsheets on political opponents. I guess they decided that the laws were preventing them from spying on Trump so they ignored them.

What FISA warrant?

You idiots are so convoluted with this shit. Not a one of you has even a simple understanding. You're conflating all sorts of shit that has nothing to do with each other.


These are existing intelligence reports of existing intercepts from existing warrants.
They were masked by the agency that collected them and made the reports.

Rice had to request that the reporting agency unmask the names. The fact that it was granted shows clearly that is was done properly.
Simply unmasking the names so as to get a clearer picture of the report is no no way spying. Only the person who requested the unmasking is permitted to see it. They don't even get a copy let alone have the ability to forward it to anyone else.

So, I have no ******* idea what you are saying or trying to say.

I guess Susan Rice is the only person who knew Michael Flynn talked to a Russia official then.

The problem here is obviously that if what you're saying is true then Susan Rice was the leaker if she was the only person to see it.

Guess that thought never crossed your mind.

 

[kwc57]

Apparently you don't know how the process works. Rice was given transcripts with all american identites redacted or 'masked' so they could not be identified. All Rice had to go on were the topics they talked about, and the bad guys they talked to them with. After reading what they said, Rice asked to find out who it was, that was colluding with the bad guys, and asked for their names to be 'unmasked', only then did she find out they were members of the trump transition team.

You are wrong...nothing she did is usual or part of her job.....she is not an investigator....and had no reason to unmask those people.....

Susan Rice’s White House Unmasking: A Watergate-style Scandal

Her interest was not in national security but to advance the political interests of the Democratic party.


The thing to bear in mind is that the White House does not do investigations. Not criminal investigations, not intelligence investigations. Remember that.

Nothing there refutes that Rice got a copy of the fully redacted 'masked' transcripts. And after reading them, wanted to know who the americans colluding with foreigners were. And requested their names be 'unmasked' And only then did she find out they were Trump associates constantly talking to the bad guys.

Whoooaaaa there little broomstick cowboy. Before you haul off and start shooting your cap guns in the air, you need to slow down on the "colluding" word. To date, there has been ZERO evidence presented by anyone of any collusion. There has been plenty of wishful thinking that there is collusion, but no evidence. If there were, it would be the top subject on the leftwing media and they would spend hours parsing it. Have you seen that? I haven't. The part that all you would be Stalinist's keep glossing over is just how this information that USA person A was talking to Russian person B. How did it get from Rice's hand into the media's hand? That's the real story here.

 

[KeiserC]

Again.... Consciousness of guilt is best proved by false exculpatory statements. That’s a genre in which Susan Rice has rich experience. Two weeks ago, she was asked in an interview about allegations by Devin Nunes that the Obama administration had unmasked Trump-team members. “I know nothing about this,” Rice replied. “I was surprised to see reports from Nunes on that count today.” Well, at least she didn’t blame it on a video. Combine that with
Purview of intelligence agencies (namely NSA) to decide on "minimization" NOT WH staff (Rice)

Exactly. That's why she had to request the name to be unmasked.

I wonder what gave her the idea that she's authorized to conduct investigations into criminal wrongdoing.
It's that the FBI's job???

She was doing her job in reading intelligence reports. Trump has been a part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It stands to reason that intelligence reports would also include information pertinent to that investigation. It's her job to keep the President apprised on the subject.

Bull ******* shit!!!!

They didn’t even get an okay from the FISA court for surveillance until last October.

You seem to forget that they have no right to be monitoring Americans' communications without a warrant. If the NSA captures any they're not allowed to keep it, much less spread it around without a court order. They have to provide probable cause to a judge before they can go rooting around or developing spreadsheets on political opponents. I guess they decided that the laws were preventing them from spying on Trump so they ignored them.

What FISA warrant?

You idiots are so convoluted with this shit. Not a one of you has even a simple understanding. You're conflating all sorts of shit that has nothing to do with each other.


These are existing intelligence reports of existing intercepts from existing warrants.
They were masked by the agency that collected them and made the reports.

Rice had to request that the reporting agency unmask the names. The fact that it was granted shows clearly that is was done properly.
Simply unmasking the names so as to get a clearer picture of the report is no no way spying. Only the person who requested the unmasking is permitted to see it. They don't even get a copy let alone have the ability to forward it to anyone else.

So, I have no ******* idea what you are saying or trying to say.

What motive would Rice have for asking for unmasking? The intelligence agencies doing investigational work already had the unmasked names that they required.... So as Gowdy pinned down Rogers and Comey 2 wks. ago what motive is left for Rice a WH staffer who is not doing investigational work...... ummm.... politics perhaps..... combine that with Farkas assertions in her own words.... collate and push that shit to the Hill before it's too late...

 

[jc456]

The woman lies,,,,,and doesnt want tot testify......get her sworn andthe minute she lies lock her up....and she will lie.....thats what she does just like Hilly

Subpoena her, and her personal email account, as well as all of her electronic devices, and her work email account.
Place a preservation order on all devices (like that stopped hillary) so that even if she deletes anything to hide what she did, she exposes herself.

She is a threat to National Security so I am thinking she needs to be under Surveillance now, as does Obama, Jarret, and anyone else that was involved with this.

the real questions are with clapper and brennan.

Question 1, did susan rice ask you for names to be unmasked ?
Question 2, what was the reason given for asking?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Exactly. That's why she had to request the name to be unmasked.

I wonder what gave her the idea that she's authorized to conduct investigations into criminal wrongdoing.
It's that the FBI's job???

She was doing her job in reading intelligence reports. Trump has been a part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It stands to reason that intelligence reports would also include information pertinent to that investigation. It's her job to keep the President apprised on the subject.

Bull ******* shit!!!!

They didn’t even get an okay from the FISA court for surveillance until last October.

You seem to forget that they have no right to be monitoring Americans' communications without a warrant. If the NSA captures any they're not allowed to keep it, much less spread it around without a court order. They have to provide probable cause to a judge before they can go rooting around or developing spreadsheets on political opponents. I guess they decided that the laws were preventing them from spying on Trump so they ignored them.

What FISA warrant?

You idiots are so convoluted with this shit. Not a one of you has even a simple understanding. You're conflating all sorts of shit that has nothing to do with each other.


These are existing intelligence reports of existing intercepts from existing warrants.
They were masked by the agency that collected them and made the reports.

Rice had to request that the reporting agency unmask the names. The fact that it was granted shows clearly that is was done properly.
Simply unmasking the names so as to get a clearer picture of the report is no no way spying. Only the person who requested the unmasking is permitted to see it. They don't even get a copy let alone have the ability to forward it to anyone else.

So, I have no ******* idea what you are saying or trying to say.

I guess Susan Rice is the only person who knew Michael Flynn talked to a Russia official then.

The problem here is obviously that if what you're saying is true then Susan Rice was the leaker if she was the only person to see it.

Guess that thought never crossed your mind.

She's the only person in that transaction except of course for the person who showed her.

The members of the intelligence agencies making the reports and actually masking the names obviously do as well. There's probably hundreds of people who have that information. Any one of them could have leaked.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The woman lies,,,,,and doesnt want tot testify......get her sworn andthe minute she lies lock her up....and she will lie.....thats what she does just like Hilly

Subpoena her, and her personal email account, as well as all of her electronic devices, and her work email account.
Place a preservation order on all devices (like that stopped hillary) so that even if she deletes anything to hide what she did, she exposes herself.

She is a threat to National Security so I am thinking she needs to be under Surveillance now, as does Obama, Jarret, and anyone else that was involved with this.

the real questions are with clapper and brennan.

Question 1, did susan rice ask you for names to be unmasked ?
Question 2, what was the reason given for asking?

And why was the person who discovered it told to shut up?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Exactly. That's why she had to request the name to be unmasked.

I wonder what gave her the idea that she's authorized to conduct investigations into criminal wrongdoing.
It's that the FBI's job???

She was doing her job in reading intelligence reports. Trump has been a part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It stands to reason that intelligence reports would also include information pertinent to that investigation. It's her job to keep the President apprised on the subject.

Bull ******* shit!!!!

They didn’t even get an okay from the FISA court for surveillance until last October.

You seem to forget that they have no right to be monitoring Americans' communications without a warrant. If the NSA captures any they're not allowed to keep it, much less spread it around without a court order. They have to provide probable cause to a judge before they can go rooting around or developing spreadsheets on political opponents. I guess they decided that the laws were preventing them from spying on Trump so they ignored them.

What FISA warrant?

You idiots are so convoluted with this shit. Not a one of you has even a simple understanding. You're conflating all sorts of shit that has nothing to do with each other.


These are existing intelligence reports of existing intercepts from existing warrants.
They were masked by the agency that collected them and made the reports.

Rice had to request that the reporting agency unmask the names. The fact that it was granted shows clearly that is was done properly.
Simply unmasking the names so as to get a clearer picture of the report is no no way spying. Only the person who requested the unmasking is permitted to see it. They don't even get a copy let alone have the ability to forward it to anyone else.

So, I have no ******* idea what you are saying or trying to say.

What motive would Rice have for asking for unmasking? The intelligence agencies doing investigational work already had the unmasked names that they required.... So as Gowdy pinned down Rogers and Comey 2 wks. ago what motive is left for Rice a WH staffer who is not doing investigational work...... ummm.... politics perhaps..... combine that with Farkas assertions in her own words.... collate and push that shit to the Hill before it's too late...

Her job.

The president has every right to know what the Intel agencies are reporting. Especially if it has to do with a counterintelligence investigation looking for foreign spies who worked to influence our election.

 

[The Original Tree]

If Susan Rice's Job is to Lie To The American Public about Spying on an Incoming President and then leaking classified information, and illegally unmasking members of The Trump Team they illegally targeted for surveillance then she did her job about as well as Joseph Goebbels did.

^ Joseph Goebbels

He was good at his job.
And a Historic Villain & Proficient Liar and Propagandist!
Now Rice gets to join that club.
Maybe in a different context, but she definitely gets a membership pin.

Dude, you're doing a fair impression with your made up shit.

BUT BUT....NO SURVEILLANCE AT ALL HAPPENED, RIGHT?

Isn't that what the Unified Mantra of the entire LeftPhuckistan Clan Claimed?

And you assured us, that we were all just CRAZY....like TRUMP, Right?

The only people that made "shit" up is The Obama Administration, who said they needed to spy on an incoming president in the "Interest of National Security" and now are trying to justify their CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES after the fact by claiming there was RUSSIAN COLLUSION even though the....

FBI
NDI
CIA
Treasury
Schiff
Clapper
Brennan
Comey

All called Obama, Rice, Jarret, Farkas, Cinton and Company All Liars because there is NO PROOF OF COLLUSION.

Yes, shit heads... We can smell your desperation. We have to hold our noses just to talk to you any more.

Take your "Incidental Surveillance" and shove it up your ass with your head.
It could use some company up there in all that empty space.

 

[The Original Tree]

Again.... Consciousness of guilt is best proved by false exculpatory statements. That’s a genre in which Susan Rice has rich experience. Two weeks ago, she was asked in an interview about allegations by Devin Nunes that the Obama administration had unmasked Trump-team members. “I know nothing about this,” Rice replied. “I was surprised to see reports from Nunes on that count today.” Well, at least she didn’t blame it on a video. Combine that with
Purview of intelligence agencies (namely NSA) to decide on "minimization" NOT WH staff (Rice)

Exactly. That's why she had to request the name to be unmasked.

I wonder what gave her the idea that she's authorized to conduct investigations into criminal wrongdoing.
It's that the FBI's job???

She was doing her job in reading intelligence reports. Trump has been a part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It stands to reason that intelligence reports would also include information pertinent to that investigation. It's her job to keep the President apprised on the subject.

Bull ******* shit!!!!

They didn’t even get an okay from the FISA court for surveillance until last October.

You seem to forget that they have no right to be monitoring Americans' communications without a warrant. If the NSA captures any they're not allowed to keep it, much less spread it around without a court order. They have to provide probable cause to a judge before they can go rooting around or developing spreadsheets on political opponents. I guess they decided that the laws were preventing them from spying on Trump so they ignored them.

What FISA warrant?

You idiots are so convoluted with this shit. Not a one of you has even a simple understanding. You're conflating all sorts of shit that has nothing to do with each other.


These are existing intelligence reports of existing intercepts from existing warrants.
They were masked by the agency that collected them and made the reports.

Rice had to request that the reporting agency unmask the names. The fact that it was granted shows clearly that is was done properly.
Simply unmasking the names so as to get a clearer picture of the report is no no way spying. Only the person who requested the unmasking is permitted to see it. They don't even get a copy let alone have the ability to forward it to anyone else.

So, I have no ******* idea what you are saying or trying to say.

RICE IS A CRIMINAL AND PART OF THE REBEL ALLIANCE!

 

[BULLDOG]

The security agencies were listening to foreign agents. If those foreign agents we talking to someone in Trump tower, they were recorded. What is wrong with that? Should Trump, or anyone who happened to have been in his building have been given a special immunity to standard security procedures?

No, they should be granted the same constitutional protections every other American citizen has, which is to have their identities minimized when they are incidentally recorded. That's the way it's supposed to work.

They were minimized until there as a security issue requiring the name to be unmasked.

What was the security issue?

If you haven't done enough research to know that, then you need to do a little and then come back. Here is a good place to start. This will answer that question, and probably a lot more.
Susan Rice speaks out on 'unmasking' accusations: 'I leaked nothing to nobody'

funny she's saying she leaked them. she used a double negative which becomes a positive. so she did leak the names.

no, you don't get to deflect. what was found to be the security issue pal. you fking don't have anything because there is nothing. it's all make believe. I know it.

Wow, that's all you got? A poor choice of words?

 

[jc456]

No, they should be granted the same constitutional protections every other American citizen has, which is to have their identities minimized when they are incidentally recorded. That's the way it's supposed to work.

They were minimized until there as a security issue requiring the name to be unmasked.

What was the security issue?

If you haven't done enough research to know that, then you need to do a little and then come back. Here is a good place to start. This will answer that question, and probably a lot more.
Susan Rice speaks out on 'unmasking' accusations: 'I leaked nothing to nobody'

funny she's saying she leaked them. she used a double negative which becomes a positive. so she did leak the names.

no, you don't get to deflect. what was found to be the security issue pal. you fking don't have anything because there is nothing. it's all make believe. I know it.

Wow, that's all you got? A poor choice of words?

it's all I need because I already know you can't post up what I asked for, because it doesn't exist. LOL. hahahahhaahahaha thanks again for proving me right.

 

[KeiserC]

NOPE.... Executive branch does not have carte blanche access to masked names.... obtained via FISA court approved warrants under sect. 702 foreign gathering, drag netted, raw data.... Neither would they have access to listen in on a senator talking to a foreign leader etc as was done with Netanyahu a short time ago.....

 

[BULLDOG]

Exactly. That's why she had to request the name to be unmasked.

I wonder what gave her the idea that she's authorized to conduct investigations into criminal wrongdoing.
It's that the FBI's job???

She was doing her job in reading intelligence reports. Trump has been a part of a counterintelligence investigation since July.
It stands to reason that intelligence reports would also include information pertinent to that investigation. It's her job to keep the President apprised on the subject.

Bull ******* shit!!!!

They didn’t even get an okay from the FISA court for surveillance until last October.

You seem to forget that they have no right to be monitoring Americans' communications without a warrant. If the NSA captures any they're not allowed to keep it, much less spread it around without a court order. They have to provide probable cause to a judge before they can go rooting around or developing spreadsheets on political opponents. I guess they decided that the laws were preventing them from spying on Trump so they ignored them.

What FISA warrant?

You idiots are so convoluted with this shit. Not a one of you has even a simple understanding. You're conflating all sorts of shit that has nothing to do with each other.


These are existing intelligence reports of existing intercepts from existing warrants.
They were masked by the agency that collected them and made the reports.

Rice had to request that the reporting agency unmask the names. The fact that it was granted shows clearly that is was done properly.
Simply unmasking the names so as to get a clearer picture of the report is no no way spying. Only the person who requested the unmasking is permitted to see it. They don't even get a copy let alone have the ability to forward it to anyone else.

So, I have no ******* idea what you are saying or trying to say.

I guess Susan Rice is the only person who knew Michael Flynn talked to a Russia official then.

The problem here is obviously that if what you're saying is true then Susan Rice was the leaker if she was the only person to see it.

Guess that thought never crossed your mind.

No, cause it's a dumb thought. All the people involved in gathering the information, assembling it into the report that was given to her, and deciding if her request to unmask the name was valid would know, along with their supervisors. Also, all the other people who read that same report, or other reports with the same or similar information would know.

 

[The Original Tree]

NOPE.... Executive branch does not have carte blanche access to masked names.... obtained via FISA court approved warrants under sect. 702 foreign gathering, drag netted, raw data.... Neither would they have access to listen in on a senator talking to a foreign leader etc as was done with Netanyahu a short time ago.....

And Sessions & a Russian Ambassador in an official legal and sanctioned meeting
And President Trump & Mexico
And President Trump & Thailand
And President Trump & Australia