Surveillance Footage Shows Nashville Shooter Used a Carbine Which Fires Pistol Rounds, Not an AR-15

[Vrenn]

So what?

The article was wrong. The handgun was a M&P 9mm. The 9mm long gun semiauto was one of the MP types (definately listed as an assault rifle) and the one she did most of the shooting with was an AR-15 copy.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The article was wrong. The handgun was a M&P 9mm. The 9mm long gun semiauto was one of the MP types (definately listed as an assault rifle) and the one she did most of the shooting with was an AR-15 copy.

So what?

 

[MarathonMike]

To me, it doesn't matter what kind of weapon is being used. When it's in the possession of the wrong person, don't expect anything good to happen as soon as they start putting their weapon of choice to work. The only good thing is when the authorities start putting their weapons of choice to work in return once they are finally in the picture of course.

God bless you and the good members of the authorities always!!!

Holly

Exactly. The "assault weapon" narrative distracts from the real issue which is, all of the mass shooters are mentally ill.

 

[Vrenn]

So what?

Just keeping things on record.

 

[JoeB131]

Too many? I agree. One is too many.

That's your opinion and flies in the face of the 2nd Amendment. This case is textbook reasoning why we cannot depend on Red Flag laws.

Except TN doesn't have a red flag law. If it did, maybe her parents would have had an avenue to stop her.

 

[Independent thinker]

1. Assault Weapon Ban would have meant that she could not have purchased an AR. Her intention was for maximum body count. But she was so inept that she could only bag 6. Had she been unable to purchase an "assault" style rifle, the body count may not have changed since she is so inept. But chances are, it would have been less. The ONLY handgun mass shooter in the last 20 years with a high body count was done by a Combat Marine. Imagine what he could have done with 3 ARs and a band of MAGs. Again, we are not out to stop the mass shootings, we are just out to make them harder to get a high body count and frequency.

Red Flag Laws certainly would have prevented this had her Mother and Doctor approached a Judge and had ALL her weapons seized and prevented her from purchasing any replacements.

The facts are, you love you AR more than you do children. Actually, your love of children may stem from needing more for target practice.

She came to the shooting with more than an AR. She would have done it anyway. Every time there is a mass shooting you guys want to pass legislation that would not have stopped that mass shooting.

 

[Vrenn]

She came to the shooting with more than an AR. She would have done it anyway. Every time there is a mass shooting you guys want to pass legislation that would not have stopped that mass shooting.

The AR just made it easier to up the body count for the beginner. The MP she had would have had a lower body count with the same number of hits and the handgun would have had even a lower body count. Again, WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP THIS BUT WE CAN LOWER THE BODY COUNT. Now what part of that are you having trouble with.

 

[Independent thinker]

The AR just made it easier to up the body count for the beginner. The MP she had would have had a lower body count with the same number of hits and the handgun would have had even a lower body count. Again, WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP THIS BUT WE CAN LOWER THE BODY COUNT. Now what part of that are you having trouble with.

You can't prove that in this case. She was searching for particular people. If she wanted a high body count she surely could have gotten more than six with the AR, don't you think?

 

[Vrenn]

You can't prove that in this case. She was searching for particular people. If she wanted a high body count she surely could have gotten more than six with the AR, don't you think?

Yah, until she found those particular people, everyone else was fair game. She was an incompetent shooter. Are you wanting to offer shooting classes for potential mass shooters so they can get better? Let me know when that class starts.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Except TN doesn't have a red flag law. If it did, maybe her parents would have had an avenue to stop her.

According to multiple news sources, she was not reported because they did not know she had any weapons.

 

[2aguy]

Except TN doesn't have a red flag law. If it did, maybe her parents would have had an avenue to stop her.

It doesn't take a red flag law to involuntarily commit a mentally ill human to pyschiatric care for 24-48 hours...which would be enough to get them flagged on a gun background check...you idiot...

You are a moron......

Involuntary emergency psychiatric hospitalization can begin with a 911 call or a trip to the emergency room.

The state's commitment law gives law enforcement, doctors and mental health crisis responders the authority to detain someone in a crisis against their will — and without a court order — if the individual meets all of the following criteria:

• has a mental illness or serious emotional disturbance
• poses an "immediate substantial likelihood of serious harm"
• needs care, training or treatment, and
• all available less drastic alternatives are not suitable to meet the needs of the person.

The initial screening can take place wherever first responders are called. Crisis counselors with the Mental Health Cooperative often accompany police officers on mental health welfare checks or reports of suicide threats and manic and psychotic episodes.

How Tennessee's involuntary psychiatric treatment law works

A Tennessee law can admit people in psychiatric crisis involuntarily. Here's how it works.

www.tennessean.com

 

[2aguy]

The AR just made it easier to up the body count for the beginner. The MP she had would have had a lower body count with the same number of hits and the handgun would have had even a lower body count. Again, WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP THIS BUT WE CAN LOWER THE BODY COUNT. Now what part of that are you having trouble with.

Wrong.......the reason she chose this school?

1) the other location she wanted to attack had more security.

2) she chose a school because, like other school attackers, they don't want to meet adult resistance, they want easy to murder children.

The gun had nothing to do with the number of people killed...you don't know what you are talking about....the rifle made no difference...the ranges involved in a mass public shooting meant the range advantage of a rifle is pointless.......the distances are too small....

The deciding factor in how many can be killed is how long it takes for a good guy with a gun to confront and engage the killer....ending their attack on unarmed victims, forcing them to deal with armed resistance...


For example....

Nashville....

2 rifles....

6 killed

Kerch, Russia shooting...

5 shot, pump action shotgun...not a rifle, no magazine..

20 killed....70 injured...

 

[2aguy]

The AR just made it easier to up the body count for the beginner. The MP she had would have had a lower body count with the same number of hits and the handgun would have had even a lower body count. Again, WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP THIS BUT WE CAN LOWER THE BODY COUNT. Now what part of that are you having trouble with.

Now what part of that are you having trouble with.

The part where you are completely wrong and have no idea what you are talking about.......we can start there....

 

[JoeB131]

According to multiple news sources, she was not reported because they did not know she had any weapons.

Again, her parents took her at her word she got rid of the one gun they thought she had. A red flag law would have brought in cops to confiscate all of them.

It doesn't take a red flag law to involuntarily commit a mentally ill human to pyschiatric care for 24-48 hours...which would be enough to get them flagged on a gun background check...you idiot...

Um, yeah, and then she'd get the guns anyway. If she already had them, flagging her ona background check wouldn't have done any good.

That's why you need Red Flag Laws.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Again, her parents took her at her word she got rid of the one gun they thought she had. A red flag law would have brought in cops to confiscate all of them.



Um, yeah, and then she'd get the guns anyway. If she already had them, flagging her ona background check wouldn't have done any good.

That's why you need Red Flag Laws.

If she was flagged as a mental incompetent, wouldn't the sale of weapons be denied by NICS?

 

[2aguy]

Again, her parents took her at her word she got rid of the one gun they thought she had. A red flag law would have brought in cops to confiscate all of them.



Um, yeah, and then she'd get the guns anyway. If she already had them, flagging her ona background check wouldn't have done any good.

That's why you need Red Flag Laws.

Yeah...dipshit........you have been confronted with the fact that they have a committment law in Tennessee......so you have nothing.

 

[2aguy]

If she was flagged as a mental incompetent, wouldn't the sale of weapons be denied by NICS?

Yes......and if they thought she was dangerous, they could have taken her guns with her 24-72 hour committment...but joe doesn't want to admit it because he knows Red Flag laws are a joke.

 

[Independent thinker]

Yah, until she found those particular people, everyone else was fair game. She was an incompetent shooter. Are you wanting to offer shooting classes for potential mass shooters so they can get better? Let me know when that class starts.

She didn't need an AR and, in fact, brought several items with her to kill that would not have been subject to an assault weapons ban. As I said, every time one of these shootings happens the left want to enact common sense gun control legislation, none of which would have prevented the mass shooting they were talking about.

 

[Vrenn]

She didn't need an AR and, in fact, brought several items with her to kill that would not have been subject to an assault weapons ban. As I said, every time one of these shootings happens the left want to enact common sense gun control legislation, none of which would have prevented the mass shooting they were talking about.

She didn't need an AR yet she brought an AR clone and used it as her primary weapon. You are still trying to rewrite history. Not going to happen.
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The shooter's AR-15 - MNPD
Carrying the three firearms, the shooter entered the school by firing at glass doors and climbing through. Hale walked down the hallways and pointed an assault-style weapon, according to surveillance video released by Metro Nashville Police.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...-in-the-nashville-school-shooting/ar-AA19hxGE
The first call to police was at 10:13 a.m. Officers arrived at 10:24 a.m. Three minutes later, police said, the shooter was dead.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...-in-the-nashville-school-shooting/ar-AA19hxGE
The three guns Hale used at the school are common, with the AR-15 the most common rifle in the country, according to Gutowski. The assault-style rifle holds a unique place in the heated political debate over gun control, he said – a symbol of the Second Amendment bulwark.

 

[JoeB131]

If she was flagged as a mental incompetent, wouldn't the sale of weapons be denied by NICS?

You mean the NICS that is deliberately weak because the National Rampage Association made sure it was underfunded.

You see, this is why I think the gun industry should manage the background check system. They can sell to whoever they see fit.

And the people who die or are injured can have lawsuits filed on their behalf for their negligence when they sell to the wrong person.