Sure looks like a noose to me.....

[eagle1462010]

I heard bubba almost got banned from racing.........because he kept getting passed by the pace car...........

Maybe he needs training on the gas peddle versus the brakes...........I'm not sure.

 

[Desperado]

I heard bubba almost got banned from racing.........because he kept getting passed by the pace car...........

Maybe he needs training on the gas peddle versus the brakes...........I'm not sure.

Lets look at it this way,,His name is Bubba not Leroy
His father is white and Bubba admits he only dates white girls.
He works for NASCAR. Face it he is more white than black, however
he is a lousy driver and needed a hook to keep his job, so he started playing up his black side.

 

[mgh80]

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Anybody with a working brain cell that isn't white.....knows good and damn well that effin rope is a noose. What should make us all shutter, is that the FBI said it isn't!!

But to my fellow black americans....I got the perfect noose to go around your necks and and and it will keep you alive and and and put a fuckin cop out of the choke hold business!!

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It doesn't look big enough to fit around anyone's neck and the rope doesn't looks strong enough to hold up a man's body.

Maybe its a "noose" for a baby.

In any event, I have no idea why NASCAR and Mr. Wallace decided to go to the Media with this. This is not "good publicity" for their sport or their organization. Not good for business at all.

A poorly constructed noose is still a noose.

 

[Polishprince]

View attachment 355342
Anybody with a working brain cell that isn't white.....knows good and damn well that effin rope is a noose. What should make us all shutter, is that the FBI said it isn't!!

But to my fellow black americans....I got the perfect noose to go around your necks and and and it will keep you alive and and and put a fuckin cop out of the choke hold business!!

View attachment 355346View attachment 355348View attachment 355349

It doesn't look big enough to fit around anyone's neck and the rope doesn't looks strong enough to hold up a man's body.

Maybe its a "noose" for a baby.

In any event, I have no idea why NASCAR and Mr. Wallace decided to go to the Media with this. This is not "good publicity" for their sport or their organization. Not good for business at all.

A poorly constructed noose is still a noose.

Perhaps. But it still doesn't explain why the fools that run NASCAR decided to report this to the media, instead of just investigating it themselves. Nothing good is coming from this

 

[mgh80]

View attachment 355342
Anybody with a working brain cell that isn't white.....knows good and damn well that effin rope is a noose. What should make us all shutter, is that the FBI said it isn't!!

But to my fellow black americans....I got the perfect noose to go around your necks and and and it will keep you alive and and and put a fuckin cop out of the choke hold business!!

View attachment 355346View attachment 355348View attachment 355349

It doesn't look big enough to fit around anyone's neck and the rope doesn't looks strong enough to hold up a man's body.

Maybe its a "noose" for a baby.

In any event, I have no idea why NASCAR and Mr. Wallace decided to go to the Media with this. This is not "good publicity" for their sport or their organization. Not good for business at all.

A poorly constructed noose is still a noose.

Perhaps. But it still doesn't explain why the fools that run NASCAR decided to report this to the media, instead of just investigating it themselves. Nothing good is coming from this

They obviously should have gone to the police, I think that's reasonable. It's also reasonable to assume that after doing so the media would pick up on it and run stories about it. By contacting the media NASCAR was getting the story out ahead to minimize damages done to their brand. If it looks like they were trying to hide his (even if the weren't) they'd stand to lose lots of money. Basically NASCAR was put into a rough spot and chose the less of two negatives.

Now how they've handled things afterwards is a different story.

 

[mgh80]

I heard bubba almost got banned from racing.........because he kept getting passed by the pace car...........

Maybe he needs training on the gas peddle versus the brakes...........I'm not sure.

Lets look at it this way,,His name is Bubba not Leroy
His father is white and Bubba admits he only dates white girls.
He works for NASCAR. Face it he is more white than black, however
he is a lousy driver and needed a hook to keep his job, so he started playing up his black side.

He's a better driver than you...

 

[Polishprince]

View attachment 355342
Anybody with a working brain cell that isn't white.....knows good and damn well that effin rope is a noose. What should make us all shutter, is that the FBI said it isn't!!

But to my fellow black americans....I got the perfect noose to go around your necks and and and it will keep you alive and and and put a fuckin cop out of the choke hold business!!

View attachment 355346View attachment 355348View attachment 355349

It doesn't look big enough to fit around anyone's neck and the rope doesn't looks strong enough to hold up a man's body.

Maybe its a "noose" for a baby.

In any event, I have no idea why NASCAR and Mr. Wallace decided to go to the Media with this. This is not "good publicity" for their sport or their organization. Not good for business at all.

A poorly constructed noose is still a noose.

Perhaps. But it still doesn't explain why the fools that run NASCAR decided to report this to the media, instead of just investigating it themselves. Nothing good is coming from this

They obviously should have gone to the police, I think that's reasonable. It's also reasonable to assume that after doing so the media would pick up on it and run stories about it. By contacting the media NASCAR was getting the story out ahead to minimize damages done to their brand. If it looks like they were trying to hide his (even if the weren't) they'd stand to lose lots of money. Basically NASCAR was put into a rough spot and chose the less of two negatives.

Now how they've handled things afterwards is a different story.

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

 

[mgh80]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

 

[Polishprince]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't anyone's "room" it was a garage. And it wasn't being used by a black person at the time it was placed there.

So no, it wasn't a "threat".

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't left in the room of a black person.

 

[mgh80]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't anyone's "room" it was a garage. And it wasn't being used by a black person at the time it was placed there.

So no, it wasn't a "threat".

Well they only know it wasn't used by a black person at the time because they had the police investigate the scene...which brings us back to the reason why the police should have been notified.

 

[mgh80]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't left in the room of a black person.

They only know that because they had the police investigate, which supports my statement that the police should have been notified.

 

[Polishprince]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't anyone's "room" it was a garage. And it wasn't being used by a black person at the time it was placed there.

So no, it wasn't a "threat".

Well they only know it wasn't used by a black person at the time because they had the police investigate the scene...which brings us back to the reason why the police should have been notified.

They could have investigated the "incident" themselves. Involving the police- and especially involving the hostile media- was a bad mistake.

 

[tigerred59]

View attachment 355342
Anybody with a working brain cell that isn't white.....knows good and damn well that effin rope is a noose. What should make us all shutter, is that the FBI said it isn't!!

But to my fellow black americans....I got the perfect noose to go around your necks and and and it will keep you alive and and and put a fuckin cop out of the choke hold business!!

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You do realize that is a close up shot of a pice of string, right? The loop also doesnt slip and its barely big enough to fit 2 fingers in it.

Bubba lied!

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Uh oh, I see somebody's dick is gonna get a good hangin!!

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't left in the room of a black person.

They only know that because they had the police investigate, which supports my statement that the police should have been notified.

Right.

I won't say the police should or should not have been notified but I will say that NASCAR could have determined for themselves when the rope was put up.

At the very least, the media should not have been involved until any determination was made. Now the entire country is up in arms over a non-incident and what's more, despite having been determined a non-incident, because of media involvement and hype, some are still up in arms.

"Okay, so it wasn't directed at Wallace and in fact, was not directed at anybody. BUT IT'S STILL A NOOSE!!".

Even though they know it's not about race, they still have to make it about race.

 

[mgh80]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't anyone's "room" it was a garage. And it wasn't being used by a black person at the time it was placed there.

So no, it wasn't a "threat".

Well they only know it wasn't used by a black person at the time because they had the police investigate the scene...which brings us back to the reason why the police should have been notified.

They could have investigated the "incident" themselves. Involving the police- and especially involving the hostile media- was a bad mistake.

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't left in the room of a black person.

They only know that because they had the police investigate, which supports my statement that the police should have been notified.

Right.

I won't say the police should or should not have been notified but I will say that NASCAR could have determined for themselves when the rope was put up.

At the very least, the media should not have been involved until any determination was made. Now the entire country is up in arms over a non-incident and what's more, despite having been determined a non-incident, because of media involvement and hype, some are still up in arms.

"Okay, so it wasn't directed at Wallace and in fact, was not directed at anybody. BUT IT'S STILL A NOOSE!!".

Even though they know it's not about race, they still have to make it about race.

You're assuming that NASCAR has the capabilities of conducting a criminal investigation (first poster).

Serious question to both of you though let's say NASCAR conducts an investigation and they figure out the answers-let's give them the benefit of the doubt of being able to put together a proper criminal investigation in a short period of time. What do you think the media would say next? It would be MUCH worse than what they're saying now.

I'm not defending the media, I'm just saying that if NASCAR chose to have an in-house investigation it would look like they were hiding something and that never goes down well for your brand. It was a business decision, not a personal one. Business is business and personal is personal.

 

[Polishprince]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't anyone's "room" it was a garage. And it wasn't being used by a black person at the time it was placed there.

So no, it wasn't a "threat".

Well they only know it wasn't used by a black person at the time because they had the police investigate the scene...which brings us back to the reason why the police should have been notified.

They could have investigated the "incident" themselves. Involving the police- and especially involving the hostile media- was a bad mistake.

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't left in the room of a black person.

They only know that because they had the police investigate, which supports my statement that the police should have been notified.

Right.

I won't say the police should or should not have been notified but I will say that NASCAR could have determined for themselves when the rope was put up.

At the very least, the media should not have been involved until any determination was made. Now the entire country is up in arms over a non-incident and what's more, despite having been determined a non-incident, because of media involvement and hype, some are still up in arms.

"Okay, so it wasn't directed at Wallace and in fact, was not directed at anybody. BUT IT'S STILL A NOOSE!!".

Even though they know it's not about race, they still have to make it about race.

You're assuming that NASCAR has the capabilities of conducting a criminal investigation (first poster).

Serious question to both of you though let's say NASCAR conducts an investigation and they figure out the answers-let's give them the benefit of the doubt of being able to put together a proper criminal investigation in a short period of time. What do you think the media would say next? It would be MUCH worse than what they're saying now.

I'm not defending the media, I'm just saying that if NASCAR chose to have an in-house investigation it would look like they were hiding something and that never goes down well for your brand. It was a business decision, not a personal one. Business is business and personal is personal.

How does this qualify as a "criminal" investigation when no crime was committed?

 

[eagle1462010]

Bunch of dang drama queens on HOW AMERICA SUCKS........

If you idiots don't like it here.........go the **** to Canada......and join the pussies there.

Wasn't a noose......but this guy will get a lot of money for saying it was............Just a scammer who did this to make a buck. Nothing else.

 

[mgh80]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't anyone's "room" it was a garage. And it wasn't being used by a black person at the time it was placed there.

So no, it wasn't a "threat".

Well they only know it wasn't used by a black person at the time because they had the police investigate the scene...which brings us back to the reason why the police should have been notified.

They could have investigated the "incident" themselves. Involving the police- and especially involving the hostile media- was a bad mistake.

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't left in the room of a black person.

They only know that because they had the police investigate, which supports my statement that the police should have been notified.

Right.

I won't say the police should or should not have been notified but I will say that NASCAR could have determined for themselves when the rope was put up.

At the very least, the media should not have been involved until any determination was made. Now the entire country is up in arms over a non-incident and what's more, despite having been determined a non-incident, because of media involvement and hype, some are still up in arms.

"Okay, so it wasn't directed at Wallace and in fact, was not directed at anybody. BUT IT'S STILL A NOOSE!!".

Even though they know it's not about race, they still have to make it about race.

You're assuming that NASCAR has the capabilities of conducting a criminal investigation (first poster).

Serious question to both of you though let's say NASCAR conducts an investigation and they figure out the answers-let's give them the benefit of the doubt of being able to put together a proper criminal investigation in a short period of time. What do you think the media would say next? It would be MUCH worse than what they're saying now.

I'm not defending the media, I'm just saying that if NASCAR chose to have an in-house investigation it would look like they were hiding something and that never goes down well for your brand. It was a business decision, not a personal one. Business is business and personal is personal.

How does this qualify as a "criminal" investigation when no crime was committed?

A criminal investigation means to investigate to see if a crime was committed...it doesn't mean that a crime was necessarily committed. That's the entire point of having the investigation in the first place.

Let's use your logic though. Let's say there's a dead person in an apartment and they lived alone. We see a shotgun that was used lying on the floor. Well we don't know if a crime was actually committed or not because it could have been an accidental death...so let's not have a criminal investigation? That doesn't make sense.

 

[Polishprince]

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't anyone's "room" it was a garage. And it wasn't being used by a black person at the time it was placed there.

So no, it wasn't a "threat".

Well they only know it wasn't used by a black person at the time because they had the police investigate the scene...which brings us back to the reason why the police should have been notified.

They could have investigated the "incident" themselves. Involving the police- and especially involving the hostile media- was a bad mistake.

Why go to the police at all? There was no crime here, why would it be "obvious" that they should? It was a non-event in a controlled space where only its employees go

So you don't think leaving a noose (even a poorly constructed one) in the room of a black person is a threat?

It wasn't left in the room of a black person.

They only know that because they had the police investigate, which supports my statement that the police should have been notified.

Right.

I won't say the police should or should not have been notified but I will say that NASCAR could have determined for themselves when the rope was put up.

At the very least, the media should not have been involved until any determination was made. Now the entire country is up in arms over a non-incident and what's more, despite having been determined a non-incident, because of media involvement and hype, some are still up in arms.

"Okay, so it wasn't directed at Wallace and in fact, was not directed at anybody. BUT IT'S STILL A NOOSE!!".

Even though they know it's not about race, they still have to make it about race.

You're assuming that NASCAR has the capabilities of conducting a criminal investigation (first poster).

Serious question to both of you though let's say NASCAR conducts an investigation and they figure out the answers-let's give them the benefit of the doubt of being able to put together a proper criminal investigation in a short period of time. What do you think the media would say next? It would be MUCH worse than what they're saying now.

I'm not defending the media, I'm just saying that if NASCAR chose to have an in-house investigation it would look like they were hiding something and that never goes down well for your brand. It was a business decision, not a personal one. Business is business and personal is personal.

How does this qualify as a "criminal" investigation when no crime was committed?

This is actually a possible HR investigation at worst. If I worked at an employer who called the police because of something like this in a controlled area, I would have a conniption over it.Treating all of your employees as criminal "suspects" isn't a smart idea for morale.