Supreme Court, Hawaii can't ban concealed carry on private property

[2aguy]

Huh?

A gun is property, carried on your person. It does not create the same issues as someone walking around on your land with signs or a bullhorn.

 

[Dante]

I support the second amendment, but the belief that people need to carry a gun on them at all times is paranoid

It’s your right, but it’s paranoid

This 2aguy poster is nuts

walk away

 

[2aguy]

It’s not the same thing at all.

If you just cross traffic without looking you’ll be dead or seriously injured within the week

I’ve never found myself in a situation where I’ve needed a gun to protect me. And I’ve had jobs that place me in the roughest neighborhoods many times

You have been lucky. Millions of Americans, and billions of people around the world have been raped, robbed, beaten and murdered....and they had no idea which day or what time that attack was going to happen.

Do you deny that people are violently attacked every single day in this world?

 

[August West]

Wow.....that was a stupid post. Considering how many women are being raped by illegal alien criminals, as well as other criminals in the democrat party controlled cities....they would be well advised to own and carry a gun.

Sure thing. A gun in the purse gives little Jason and Madison something to play with. Tell us how many women are being raped by illegals. Illegals commit less crimes than those who are already here. They would rather not be deported.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Federal Precedent:
The U.S. Supreme Court established in cases like Lloyd Corp. v. Tanner and Hudgens v. NLRB that the First Amendment does not apply to private property owners, meaning businesses can restrict or ban political protests and demonstrations on their premises.

Either you didn't understand the question, or you chose to not understand the question.

I'll ask again:

1st Amendment: Businesses can restrict or ban political protests and demonstrations on their premises.
2nd Amendment: Businesses can restrict or ban carrying firearms on their premises.

What's the problem?

 

[Concerned American]

Dumb shit, I don't see anything about that in this ruling. And nothing you believe about guns is true or factual, in fact, the opposite is usually true.

Meanwhile, in the real world, allowing people to go into bars with their guns, but not drinking, has reduced violence at bars.

From Chat GPT:

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• South Carolina changed its law in 2014 to allow permit holders to carry in establishments serving alcohol if they did not drink and if the business didn't prohibit firearms.
• After the change, opponents predicted more shootings, while supporters pointed out that such shootings did not materialize at the levels predicted.
• Tennessee passed a law in 2009 allowing handgun permit holders to carry in restaurants and bars that serve alcohol, provided the carrier was not drinking. Supporters later pointed to the absence of a surge in bar violence as evidence the law was safe.
• Texas has long allowed licensed carry in many establishments that serve alcohol, though not in businesses where more than 51% of revenue comes from alcohol sales ("51% establishments," essentially bars). Some advocates cited falling crime trends after expansions of carry rights, but researchers disagreed about whether the gun laws caused the decline.
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I couldn't help but notice in the citations in your post that the word 'allow' is used and it made me wonder how they can 'allow' you to carry when keeping and bearing arms is a God-given right. Hmmm.

 

[August West]

You have been lucky. Millions of Americans, and billions of people around the world have been raped, robbed, beaten and murdered....and they had no idea which day or what time that attack was going to happen.

Do you deny that people are violently attacked every single day in this world?

Violently attacked by people carrying guns. You walked yourself right into that one. Why don`t I know anyone who has been violently attacked by anyone other than wife beaters? You`re living in a fantasy world and shouldn`t be allowed anywhere near a gun, ever. I don`t know if medications can help you, but as they say on TV, "talk to your doctor".

 

[M14 Shooter]

I’ve never found myself in a situation where I’ve needed a gun to protect me. And I’ve had jobs that place me in the roughest neighborhoods many times

What does this prove?

 

[Captain Caveman]

I support the second amendment, but the belief that people need to carry a gun on them at all times is paranoid

It’s your right, but it’s paranoid

Are you British or a rare breed of American! First time I've seen a middle ground post on guns!!

Allegedly, it's linked to high bed wetting.

 

[2aguy]

Sure thing. A gun in the purse gives little Jason and Madison something to play with. Tell us how many women are being raped by illegals. Illegals commit less crimes than those who are already here. They would rather not be deported.

Wrong. For years illegal crime went un recorded because the democrats refused to collect the data.

 

[2aguy]

Violently attacked by people carrying guns. You walked yourself right into that one. Why don`t I know anyone who has been violently attacked by anyone other than wife beaters? You`re living in a fantasy world and shouldn`t be allowed anywhere near a gun, ever. I don`t know if medications can help you, but as they say on TV, "talk to your doctor".

No, dumb shit. By criminals. Normal people with guns aren't attacking anyone.

You sit there like a giant ass and deny that people suffer from violent criminals every day in this country. They wake up, and have no idea that that is the day their life is going to change forever.

 

[2aguy]

Are you British or a rare breed of American! First time I've seen a middle ground post on guns!!

Allegedly, it's linked to high bed wetting.

I think the families of about 250,000 English girls would like to challenge you on whether or not they needed a gun to stop the muslim rape gangs from raping their daughters.

 

[braalian]

What does this prove?

It proves to me that the idea that believing one is in such danger at all times to the point that one needs to carry a gun 24/7 is exaggerated paranoia

 

[braalian]

You have been lucky. Millions of Americans, and billions of people around the world have been raped, robbed, beaten and murdered....and they had no idea which day or what time that attack was going to happen.

Do you deny that people are violently attacked every single day in this world?

Billions?

You realize there’s only like 8 billion people on the planet, total

 

[M14 Shooter]

It proves to me that the idea that believing one is in such danger at all times to the point that one needs to carry a gun 24/7 is exaggerated paranoia

Why do you think your experience is valid for the population as a whole?
Isn't gun-related violence rampant across the US?

 

[excalibur]

AS long as they`re members of a well-regulated militia, they`ll be okay. Who is your commander and where do you train?

What part of "... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" are you having difficulty understanding?

 

[M14 Shooter]

What part of "... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" are you having difficulty understanding?

Hey - go easy on him. He has brain damage.

 

[M14 Shooter]

49 states: It's legal to carry a gun into a business unless the owner says you can't
Hawaii: It's illegal to carry a gun into a business unless the owner says you can

Liberals do not understand how creating a law that makes carrying a gun preemptively illegal violates the 2nd,

 

[M14 Shooter]

49 states: It's legal to carry a gun into a business unless the owner says you can't
Hawaii: It's illegal to carry a gun into a business unless the owner says you can

Liberals do not understand how creating a law that makes carrying a gun presumptively illegal violates the 2nd,

 

[Dante]

Either you didn't understand the question, or you chose to not understand the question.

I'll ask again:

1st Amendment: Businesses can restrict or ban political protests and demonstrations on their premises.
2nd Amendment: Businesses can restrict or ban carrying firearms on their premises.

What's the problem?

It's always "omission" with you people.