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You were expecting something different?dilloduck said:http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-02-02-iraq_x.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno
I get it now---the Sunnis are the Democrat party in Iraq. :cof:
dilloduck said:http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-02-02-iraq_x.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno
I get it now---the Sunnis are the Democrat party in Iraq. :cof:
spillmind said:http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=27256
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nytimes...rk+Times&desc=U.S.+ENCOURAGED+BY+VIETNAM+VOTE
WASHINGTON, Sept. 3-- United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam's presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting. According to reports from Saigon, 83 per cent of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong.
The size of the popular vote and the inability of the Vietcong to destroy the election machinery were the two salient facts in a preliminary assessment of the nation election based on the incomplete returns reaching here. Pending more detailed reports, neither the State Department nor the White House would comment on the balloting or the victory of the military candidates, Lieut. Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu, who was running for president, and Premier Nguyen Cao Ky, the candidate for vice president.
A successful election has long been seen as the keystone in President Johnson's policy of encouraging the growth of constitutional processes in South Vietnam. The election was the culmination of a constitutional development that began in January, 1966, to which President Johnson gave his personal commitment when he met Premier Ky and General Thieu, the chief of state, in Honolulu in February.
The purpose of the voting was to give legitimacy to the Saigon Government, which has been founded only on coups and power plays since November, 1963, when President Ngo Dinh Deim was overthrown by a military junta. Few members of that junta are still around, most having been ousted or exiled in subsequent shifts of power
Before the results of the presidential election started to come in, the American officials warned that the turnout might be less than 80 per cent because the polling place would be open for two or three hours less than in the election a year ago. The turnout of 83 per cent was a welcome surprise. The turnout in the 1964 United States Presidential election was 62 per cent.
now if history has ever repeated itself... bah why, do i even bother...
spillmind said:http://ipsnews.net/interna.asp?idnews=27256
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/nytimes...rk+Times&desc=U.S.+ENCOURAGED+BY+VIETNAM+VOTE
WASHINGTON, Sept. 3-- United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam's presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting. According to reports from Saigon, 83 per cent of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong.
The size of the popular vote and the inability of the Vietcong to destroy the election machinery were the two salient facts in a preliminary assessment of the nation election based on the incomplete returns reaching here. Pending more detailed reports, neither the State Department nor the White House would comment on the balloting or the victory of the military candidates, Lieut. Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu, who was running for president, and Premier Nguyen Cao Ky, the candidate for vice president.
A successful election has long been seen as the keystone in President Johnson's policy of encouraging the growth of constitutional processes in South Vietnam. The election was the culmination of a constitutional development that began in January, 1966, to which President Johnson gave his personal commitment when he met Premier Ky and General Thieu, the chief of state, in Honolulu in February.
The purpose of the voting was to give legitimacy to the Saigon Government, which has been founded only on coups and power plays since November, 1963, when President Ngo Dinh Deim was overthrown by a military junta. Few members of that junta are still around, most having been ousted or exiled in subsequent shifts of power
Before the results of the presidential election started to come in, the American officials warned that the turnout might be less than 80 per cent because the polling place would be open for two or three hours less than in the election a year ago. The turnout of 83 per cent was a welcome surprise. The turnout in the 1964 United States Presidential election was 62 per cent.
now if history has ever repeated itself... bah why, do i even bother...
freeandfun1 said:What an idiotic comparison.... but then again, we don't expect much from you.
spillmind said:showing your age again? :blah2:
yeah, i can't get an intelligent response from anyone but the admins. i think it's more to remind myself that i didn't vote for this mess, nor do i believe in the lofty dreams of a divided country reduced to rubble embracing a western loving democracy.
so the question is, when do we invade iran? are we going to pretend to set up a democracy there to? more to the point, who's going to pay for it?
i shoulda known better than to post during a night of chimp worship.
spillmind said:yeah, i can't get an intelligent response from anyone but the admins.
freeandfun1 said:suck'n up huh? they too have told you more than once that you are screw'd in da head....
noboby bothers putting together and intelligent reply to your BS, cuz you always ignore it anyway. Everybody is T I R E D of you and your childish B U L L S H I T!
spillmind said:i think it's more to remind myself that i didn't vote for this mess, nor do i believe in the lofty dreams of a divided country reduced to rubble embracing a western loving democracy.
gop_jeff said:So when Iraq, under threats of violence, shootings, and insurgency, has higher turnout than the US, that's not evidence that the Iraqi people have embraced democracy?
spillmind said:was there not food at the polling stations?
do the people have any other option in their lives when the world around them is reduced to rubble?
what is the literacy rate in iraq? and how many people could read the ballots without help?
how is this going to bring order to iraq?
and when will the troops pull out, proving that it is a legitimate, stable democracy?
let's be honest about things, jeff.
theim said:We still have troops in Germany. Is Schroeder's government illegitimate?
gop_jeff said:I have no idea. Was there?
Yes. They can become terrorists, like some in Iraq obviously have. But the vast majority of people in Iraq have rejected that option.
39%, according to the UN. But since Saddam ruled that country for decades, he should be held responsible for the literacy rate. We are currently in the middle of building schools so Iraqi children can learn.
By providing the Iraqi people a constitution and a stable government. Or does that not fit into your view of order?
When the Iraqi people are able to defend their own country, I'm sure we'll be out of there. But to leave now would be like abandoning a child on his first day of school.
silly said:what is the literacy rate in iraq?
