Suckiing on the Federal Teat!!!!

[rdean]

When the right cries and screams about lazy liberals and Democrats with a hand out, it's just them trying to deflect. They don't want people to understand it's Republicans who are sucking the money from the budget and not paying out there fair share. Nothing will change as long as they think education is for snobs and science is a faith.

 

[Kosh]

Suckiing on the Federal Teat!!!!

Is this thread about the far left Obama stimulus that was really a money laundering scheme to get all their far left buddies rich off those that desperately needed jobs?

 

[The Rabbi]

When the right cries and screams about lazy liberals and Democrats with a hand out, it's just them trying to deflect. They don't want people to understand it's Republicans who are sucking the money from the budget and not paying out there fair share. Nothing will change as long as they think education is for snobs and science is a faith.

Where are Republicans not paying their fair share? What is a "fair share" anyway, and who determines it?
Another fail post from RDean, the chief dimwit of USMB.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The issue as about corporations taking advantage of government programs. The "playing field " is equal when conservative philanthropists abide by existing laws and have an opportunity to glean the same tax advantages as socialist favorites of the administration. Whether or not small companies should have subsidize idiots who have no skills other than flipping a burger is another matter. .

flipping burgers takes a lot of skill, just ask any libertard, or nopeeparty.

Food safety take training.

Yeah a 20 minute in service not a ******* PHd

 

[Skull Pilot]

In finance, a subsidy is any financial aid given directly or in directly by the Government.

Direct: A check

In-direct: A deduction.

A tax deduction is NOT A subsidy.

IT is NOT governments money to begin with.

Wow, how stupid are you people going to get?

Obviously you're the stupid one. Tax deductions are subsidies. Any time one group is forced to pay higher tax rates that another does not pay, the playing field is tilted away from the higher tax rate payers. sorry you don't grasp economics.

So people with no kids are subsidizing people with kids because they don't get a deduction right?

You are getting a personal deduction on your taxes so you are getting a subsidy right?

 

[Skull Pilot]

The only way to end this argument is to call for a flat tax.

That way everyone pays the same percentage and there will be special treatment for anyone.

 

[rdean]

When the right cries and screams about lazy liberals and Democrats with a hand out, it's just them trying to deflect. They don't want people to understand it's Republicans who are sucking the money from the budget and not paying out there fair share. Nothing will change as long as they think education is for snobs and science is a faith.

Where are Republicans not paying their fair share? What is a "fair share" anyway, and who determines it?
Another fail post from RDean, the chief dimwit of USMB.

Not true. How many times have we posted FACTS that show Red States only have low taxes because they are funded by the Federal government? You can't prove otherwise. You can say it's a lie, but deep down, you know it's not.

150 years of conservative policies in Red States and they are still a mess. And you can't blame it on the blacks, which is what Right wingers always try to do when it comes to their disastrous and failed policies. Red States that have less than 5% blacks are just as bad as Red States that have more.

In fact, the only Red States doing well are ones digging up money out of the ground. Right wingers simply don't have any interest in science. It can't be denied. And without that, they will never have cutting edge technology. It's just that plain. It's how it is. Even USMB right wingers have to know that even when they desperately try to convince themselves otherwise.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

When the right cries and screams about lazy liberals and Democrats with a hand out, it's just them trying to deflect. They don't want people to understand it's Republicans who are sucking the money from the budget and not paying out there fair share. Nothing will change as long as they think education is for snobs and science is a faith.

Where are Republicans not paying their fair share? What is a "fair share" anyway, and who determines it?
Another fail post from RDean, the chief dimwit of USMB.

Not true. How many times have we posted FACTS that show Red States only have low taxes because they are funded by the Federal government? You can't prove otherwise. You can say it's a lie, but deep down, you know it's not.

150 years of conservative policies in Red States and they are still a mess. And you can't blame it on the blacks, which is what Right wingers always try to do when it comes to their disastrous and failed policies. Red States that have less than 5% blacks are just as bad as Red States that have more.

In fact, the only Red States doing well are ones digging up money out of the ground. Right wingers simply don't have any interest in science. It can't be denied. And without that, they will never have cutting edge technology. It's just that plain. It's how it is. Even USMB right wingers have to know that even when they desperately try to convince themselves otherwise.

Koch Brothers main office is in Kansas, too.

The posting by Politifact was from 2012, and their assumption was that the stimulus of 2009 would alter this info, but according to the righties, the stimulus didn't help, so they have own this one as more than "Mostly True".

'Red State Socialism' graphic says GOP-leaning states get lion's share of federal dollars

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/

 

[The Rabbi]

When the right cries and screams about lazy liberals and Democrats with a hand out, it's just them trying to deflect. They don't want people to understand it's Republicans who are sucking the money from the budget and not paying out there fair share. Nothing will change as long as they think education is for snobs and science is a faith.

Where are Republicans not paying their fair share? What is a "fair share" anyway, and who determines it?
Another fail post from RDean, the chief dimwit of USMB.

Not true. How many times have we posted FACTS that show Red States only have low taxes because they are funded by the Federal government? You can't prove otherwise. You can say it's a lie, but deep down, you know it's not.

150 years of conservative policies in Red States and they are still a mess. And you can't blame it on the blacks, which is what Right wingers always try to do when it comes to their disastrous and failed policies. Red States that have less than 5% blacks are just as bad as Red States that have more.

In fact, the only Red States doing well are ones digging up money out of the ground. Right wingers simply don't have any interest in science. It can't be denied. And without that, they will never have cutting edge technology. It's just that plain. It's how it is. Even USMB right wingers have to know that even when they desperately try to convince themselves otherwise.

Deflection, obfuscation.
What is a fair share and who determines that?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Where are Republicans not paying their fair share? What is a "fair share" anyway, and who determines it?
Another fail post from RDean, the chief dimwit of USMB.

Not true. How many times have we posted FACTS that show Red States only have low taxes because they are funded by the Federal government? You can't prove otherwise. You can say it's a lie, but deep down, you know it's not.

150 years of conservative policies in Red States and they are still a mess. And you can't blame it on the blacks, which is what Right wingers always try to do when it comes to their disastrous and failed policies. Red States that have less than 5% blacks are just as bad as Red States that have more.

In fact, the only Red States doing well are ones digging up money out of the ground. Right wingers simply don't have any interest in science. It can't be denied. And without that, they will never have cutting edge technology. It's just that plain. It's how it is. Even USMB right wingers have to know that even when they desperately try to convince themselves otherwise.

Deflection, obfuscation.
What is a fair share and who determines that?

See post 88. Even Politifact bears rdean's statements out. So obfuscate yourself.

 

[The Rabbi]

Not true. How many times have we posted FACTS that show Red States only have low taxes because they are funded by the Federal government? You can't prove otherwise. You can say it's a lie, but deep down, you know it's not.

150 years of conservative policies in Red States and they are still a mess. And you can't blame it on the blacks, which is what Right wingers always try to do when it comes to their disastrous and failed policies. Red States that have less than 5% blacks are just as bad as Red States that have more.

In fact, the only Red States doing well are ones digging up money out of the ground. Right wingers simply don't have any interest in science. It can't be denied. And without that, they will never have cutting edge technology. It's just that plain. It's how it is. Even USMB right wingers have to know that even when they desperately try to convince themselves otherwise.

Deflection, obfuscation.
What is a fair share and who determines that?

See post 88. Even Politifact bears rdean's statements out. So obfuscate yourself.

It's NoPeePee chiming in.
Red State is not equivalent to all Republicans.
No proof Republicans dont pay "their fair share"
No definition of what "fair share" means.

Hey, you need to pay the citizens of your state back for subsidizing your education, you teat sucker you.

 

[OnePercenter]

Any tax is an "aid" to government.

I spend $300K/year just to keep my doors open. Regardless of my sales for any given year. The vast majority of my expenditures are subtracted from my taxable income.
If they weren't, I wouldn't be in business. Nor would my business expand.

You really are a block of stupid.

Tax pays for the streetlights, the streets, the fire department, and on, and on, and on.

Actually no, the contractor who built the development you live in paid for the street lights and the streets. Some cities have private fire departments, so that doesn't require taxes either.

So the contractor doesn't deduct the cost thus reducing paid taxes that have to be made up elsewhere?

The fact is that 99.99999% of roadways and streetlights in this country are paid for and maintained by taxpayers.

Even though there are private fire departments, most have automatic or mutual aid agreements with neighboring cities and receive regular taxpayers monies.

 

[The Rabbi]

Tax pays for the streetlights, the streets, the fire department, and on, and on, and on.

Actually no, the contractor who built the development you live in paid for the street lights and the streets. Some cities have private fire departments, so that doesn't require taxes either.

So the contractor doesn't deduct the cost thus reducing paid taxes that have to be made up elsewhere?

The fact is that 99.99999% of roadways and streetlights in this country are paid for and maintained by taxpayers.

Even though there are private fire departments, most have automatic or mutual aid agreements with neighboring cities and receive regular taxpayers monies.

That wasnt even coherent.

 

[OnePercenter]

Any tax is an "aid" to government.

I spend $300K/year just to keep my doors open. Regardless of my sales for any given year. The vast majority of my expenditures are subtracted from my taxable income.
If they weren't, I wouldn't be in business. Nor would my business expand.

You really are a block of stupid.

Tax pays for the streetlights, the streets, the fire department, and on, and on, and on.

So that means you are "subsidized" too.

Face it individuals get way more in subsidies than any business that's why 47% of people pay no income tax and some actually get more of a refund than they paid in.

People with no kids pay more taxes than people with kids so they are subsidizing other people's children.

You get to take a personal deduction on your income taxes doesn't that count as a subsidy to you?

I'm totally subsided. Thanks to Republicans, my entire lifestyle is deductible. I like the yacht as a second home deduction. THANK YOU REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!

 

[OnePercenter]

A tax deduction is NOT A subsidy.

IT is NOT governments money to begin with.

Wow, how stupid are you people going to get?

Obviously you're the stupid one. Tax deductions are subsidies. Any time one group is forced to pay higher tax rates that another does not pay, the playing field is tilted away from the higher tax rate payers. sorry you don't grasp economics.

Letting people keep more of the money they earned is not subsidizing anything. OTherwise anything other than 100% confiscation of money earned is subsidizing someone.
A liberal's wet dream, I know.

Since you constantly complain about being over-taxed, why don't you post your effective federal tax for 2013? Mine was 4%.

 

[OnePercenter]

When the right cries and screams about lazy liberals and Democrats with a hand out, it's just them trying to deflect. They don't want people to understand it's Republicans who are sucking the money from the budget and not paying out there fair share. Nothing will change as long as they think education is for snobs and science is a faith.

I heard that corporate subsidies cost US taxpayers 50% more than welfare so people can eat.

 

[OnePercenter]

Actually no, the contractor who built the development you live in paid for the street lights and the streets. Some cities have private fire departments, so that doesn't require taxes either.

So the contractor doesn't deduct the cost thus reducing paid taxes that have to be made up elsewhere?

The fact is that 99.99999% of roadways and streetlights in this country are paid for and maintained by taxpayers.

Even though there are private fire departments, most have automatic or mutual aid agreements with neighboring cities and receive regular taxpayers monies.

That wasnt even coherent.

Fact isn't coherent to you.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Tax pays for the streetlights, the streets, the fire department, and on, and on, and on.

So that means you are "subsidized" too.

Face it individuals get way more in subsidies than any business that's why 47% of people pay no income tax and some actually get more of a refund than they paid in.

People with no kids pay more taxes than people with kids so they are subsidizing other people's children.

You get to take a personal deduction on your income taxes doesn't that count as a subsidy to you?

I'm totally subsided. Thanks to Republicans, my entire lifestyle is deductible. I like the yacht as a second home deduction. THANK YOU REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!

Yeah right.

For someone who says he is so rich you have shown very little if any knowledge of business or finance..

Case in point saying that writing off a business expense is a subsidy

 

[The Rabbi]

So that means you are "subsidized" too.

Face it individuals get way more in subsidies than any business that's why 47% of people pay no income tax and some actually get more of a refund than they paid in.

People with no kids pay more taxes than people with kids so they are subsidizing other people's children.

You get to take a personal deduction on your income taxes doesn't that count as a subsidy to you?

I'm totally subsided. Thanks to Republicans, my entire lifestyle is deductible. I like the yacht as a second home deduction. THANK YOU REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!

Yeah right.

For someone who says he is so rich you have shown very little if any knowledge of business or finance..

Case in point saying that writing off a business expense is a subsidy

One Percenter's screen name comes from the percentage of his brain which is working. He's been caught in howlers before.

 

[bripat9643]

When the right cries and screams about lazy liberals and Democrats with a hand out, it's just them trying to deflect. They don't want people to understand it's Republicans who are sucking the money from the budget and not paying out there fair share. Nothing will change as long as they think education is for snobs and science is a faith.

I heard that corporate subsidies cost US taxpayers 50% more than welfare so people can eat.

You heard bullshit, of course.