"Success Clubs" in schools?

[initforme]

Which only goes to show that nothing worth having comes free or easily. That is reality---$50/hr to flip burgers is not reality and never will be unless a dollar is worth much less than it is now. Success Clubs would teach that.

The fact is basically if one foesnt come from big money then one will have to be ok with average money. Thats the way things work.

 

[Concerned American]

The fact is basically if one foesnt come from big money then one will have to be ok with average money. Thats the way things work.

Tell Jeff Bezos that--or Hewlett or Packard--or Henry Ford--or the Dodge brothers

 

[initforme]

The American Dream isn't getting things free. The American Dream is if you work hard and persevere, you will succeed. Conversely, if you sit on your butt and expect everything to be given to you, you will not succeed. Simple.

Where did i say stuff for free? I simply stated that working in america is a grind, not a dream. I worked many a year in the awful nasty american rat race. Never collected a dime of free stuff you are SO infatuated with. Put 3 kids thru college so that they didnt start out working for some illbegotren awful bosx who shouldnt be in business. Get trai ed in a skill that means one can leave on a whim for netter pay as most bosses are lessers.

 

[Anathema]

The fact is basically if one foesnt come from big money then one will have to be ok with average money. Thats the way things work.

What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong with being a worker bee, getting by and having what you need and a few of the nicer things in life? What’s wrong with that?

I was born in the middle. I’ll die in the middle and I’m done with that. Being on top requires far too much stress, anxiety, extra hours without pay, and decision making. Not interested.

 

[initforme]

Tell Jeff Bezos that--or Hewlett or Packard--or Henry Ford--or the Dodge brothers

3 out of 100 million...epic fail.

 

[Concerned American]

Where did i say stuff for free?

You advocated for $50/hr wage for flipping burgers---that is something for free.

Get trai ed in a skill that means one can leave on a whim for netter pay as most bosses are lessers.

LOL, so that they can go to another job and work under the same conditions. After 52 years, you still don't get it---and your work history doesn't have a thing to do with Success Clubs either.

 

[Concerned American]

3 out of 100 million...epic fail.

The epic fail is your assertion that it proves wrong. Your Bbbbbut, Bbbbut, Bbbbut is noted. These epic SUCCESSES would surely be highlighted in Success Clubs or held up as examples of what can be accomplished in Junior Achievement extracurriculars.

 

[initforme]

You advocated for $50/hr wage for flipping burgers---that is something for free.

LOL, so that they can go to another job and work under the same conditions. After 52 years, you still don't get it---and your work history doesn't have a thing to do with Success Clubs either.

Job hoppers are the best employees in todays work world. Youre slow to catch on. Loyalty to an employer is a trait that is looked fown upon. Its a sign of a bad worker. An unproductive worker.

 

[initforme]

The epic fail is your assertion that it proves wrong. Your Bbbbbut, Bbbbut, Bbbbut is noted. These epic SUCCESSES would surely be highlighted in Success Clubs or held up as examples of what can be accomplished in Junior Achievement extracurriculars.

Success club....comical. Your Junior achievement stuff is comical.

 

[MarathonMike]

We need general education for all high school students centered around making money and responsibly managing finances. We need to get kids involved in investing. Teach them about the stock market and other ways to grow their money. This was something sorely lacking when I was in high school, but it's a good thing I learned the Pythagorean Theorem. That comes in great use during tax season...

Absolutely. I'm shocked at how poorly people manage money. To my knowledge it is still no part of any public education curriculum and it wasn't in the Charter Schools my kids went to either.

 

[Concerned American]

Job hoppers are the best employees in todays work world. Youre slow to catch on. Loyalty to an employer is a trait that is looked fown upon. Its a sign of a bad worker. An unproductive worker.

You're behind the times--the fallacy that loyalty is a sign of a bad worker was pushed as culture change in the workplace during the late 90s and early OOs. By the mid 10s, employers discovered the error of their ways about the same time that they discovered that workplace experience was far more valuable than college educated managers. If anything, it showed employers that the 'gig economy' was preferable to paying ridiculously high wages and benefits for employees like you. Try again.

 

[initforme]

You're behind the times--the fallacy that loyalty is a sign of a bad worker was pushed as culture change in the workplace during the late 90s and early OOs. By the mid 10s, employers discovered the error of their ways about the same time that they discovered that workplace experience was far more valuable than college educated managers. If anything, it showed employers that the 'gig economy' was preferable to paying ridiculously high wages and benefits for employees like you. Try again.

You are an employer fan, employee hater. Why the disdain gor american workers today? Weve never seen a generation of workers this great as today.

 

[Concerned American]

You are an employer fan, employee hater.

You know NOTHING about me. Another of your typical off topic false assumptions. Please return to the topic.

Weve never seen a generation of workers this great as today.

Wrong again, which is why we have such a homeless problem and problems with rank and file succeeding which comes back to why we need Success Clubs in schools.

 

[initforme]

You know NOTHING about me. Another of your typical off topic false assumptions. Please return to the topic.

Wrong again, which is why we have such a homeless problem and problems with rank and file succeeding which comes back to why we need Success Clubs in schools.

Yes a high school club will fix all this mess. Lol

 

[initforme]

Perhaps we need to back off on people and expect less of them. Placing countless expectations is a recipe for failure.

 

[Concerned American]

Yes a high school club will fix all this mess. Lol

Certainly won't hurt it. Your giveaway, unearned doubling of the minimum wage certainly aided the inflationary mess that we're in currently. Take a bow. Maybe you should have joined Junior Achievement instead of smoking behind the gym.

 

[initforme]

Certainly won't hurt it. Your giveaway, unearned doubling of the minimum wage certainly aided the inflationary mess that we're in currently. Take a bow. Maybe you should have joined Junior Achievement instead of smoking behind the gym.

Increasing wages causes very little inflation. Imagine a few people making $5 per hour more. Big whoop. Give it a rest. Or then get rid of those jobs. Dont hire. They dont need to be done. Im good with that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Thank you all for triggering Methusaleh (initforme). All that ranting is probably the most exercise he has had in a few weeks.

 

[Concerned American]

Increasing wages causes very little inflation. Imagine a few people making $5 per hour more. Big whoop. Give it a rest. Or then get rid of those jobs. Dont hire. They dont need to be done. Im good with that.

Neither are the assistants that you underpay in your assisted living facility, eh?

 

[Foxfyre]

We had various after school clubs in high school, all non-academic and largely social. We should have "success clubs" for those who want to prepare for success while still in school. Foundational principles for achieving success could be taught by local leaders and successful businessmen and women. Admission to the club would require grades above a certain level as well as a good conduct history.

All public schools should have classes teaching students the basics of successful everyday life, These can be part of the regular curriculum or extra curricular.

1. What taxes they'll pay and how to do their taxes.
2. How to make a budget, balance a checkbook, what records we need to keep and for how long, the value of a good credit rating.
3. How to reset a circuit breaker and, perhaps in really old buildings, how to change a fuse.
4. How to change a tire.
5. Principles of compound interest and how that can both help us and hurt us.
6. Basics of investing in bonds, stocks, mutual funds.
7. A simple basic first aid course and how to read medicine labels and avoiding dangerous side effects of OTC meds.
8. Pros and cons of property ownership.
9. How to write a decent resume'.
10. Basics of good manners, etiquette, personal hygiene, dressing for success.
11. A simple crash course in various kinds of insurance.
12. Fundamentals of inexpensive cooking meals for one or two.