Steward Rhodes charged with seditious conspiracy

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I tried to explain the difference but you dumb heads don't get it you can't charge somebody with insurrection you can only charge them for what they are they were seditionist who caused an insurrection. Do you get it now you idiot.

donny can be charged with insurrection under the definition set forth in the US code.

 

[playtime]

That doesn't explain the ear piece on 1/6. I am thinking our corrupt Pelosi FBI recruited small street dealers etc to instigate.

the FBI ... BILL BARR'S FBI ( that is until he 'resigned' because he wouldn't cross that line that donny wanted him to & then installed an acting AG ) was under donny's administration on jan 6, 2020...

nice try though.

hmmmm.... wouldn't it be a hoot if barr testifies in them thar public hearings that will soon be coming?

 

[playtime]

What insurrection? All I've heard is riot.

Some people did something....

seems you need to get yer head outa donny's colon.

 

[playtime]

only fools get their 'facts' from twitter & facebook.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

They'll have a hard time proving that in a court of law.

Oh wait. The Biden administration doesn't use the courts, do they? They just do whatever the **** they want to do.

Well when yer shot down every time you go to court, you gots to dos summin else

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

There were several reports that the leader of oathkeepers was a undercover Fed.

The Feds were all over the place instigating...lolololl

These fools are so stupid. Where are Pelosi's emails?

 

[playtime]

The Feds were all over the place instigating...lolololl

These fools are so stupid. Where are Pelosi's emails?

where are kevin mcspineless' reply texts back to sean hannity, brian kilmeade, laura braun, traitor tot, jimhominahominahominajordan?

 

[Delldude]

seems you need to get yer head outa donny's colon.

He he he.......hey that's how your LW MSM rolled until someone realized it was only a riot.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

they weren't charged with insurrection because what the oathkeepers did was worse.

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection​

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Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy​

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If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

but guess WHO can be charged with insurrection, because he incited the march to the capital?

Why aren't they being charged with insurrection, then? It oughta to be a slam dunk. Right?

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Stann said:


And they never will be charged with insurrection.

as in you saying they will never be charged with sedition. You are a joke.

I never said that. You are a liar.

 

[Delldude]

And they never will be charged with insurrection. Insurrection was the end result of the sedition; you can't be that stupid.

Insurrection wasn't mentioned, only sedition.

About that sedition charge......I wouldn't bet they'll go down for it in the end.

What is a ‘seditious conspiracy’ charge?
The charge is defined in the federal criminal code, Section 2384, as an effort by two or more to “conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”


What are some examples of its use?
Seditious conspiracy has been used successfully in a handful of cases, most notably against the planner of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Ramzi Yousef. Most recently, it was used in 2010 against nine members of the far-right Hutaree, a self-styled militia group that the FBI prosecuted in federal court for allegedly planning a violent anti-government revolt. In that case, a judge dismissed the seditious conspiracy charges, saying that prosecutors failed to prove that the group planned to carry out specific attacks.

How hard is it to prove that someone is guilty of sedition?
Very.
For months, experts have cautioned that while many of those who broke into the Capitol that day met the terms of the sedition statute, the bar for a sedition charge is high.

“I’m not saying they can’t do it here. I’m not saying they should not charge it. It’s just you got to make sure you got all your ducks in a row, because it’s, it’s tough,” Andrew Arena, who led the investigation against the Hutarees in 2010, told NPR in January 2021.
So far, in the investigation of Jan. 6, these seditious conspiracy charges are the most serious to have been brought forward. This charge is “arguably the most difficult one to amass proof beyond a reasonable doubt of,” explained Juliet Sorensen, a clinical professor of law at Northwestern University’s Pritzker School of Law. “By the same token, because it has the potential to carry the most significant penalty, that is to say the most serious sentence, it should be important to the Department of Justice to get it right,” Sorensen said. “That is to say not only to amass enough evidence to prove seditious conspiracy, beyond reasonable doubt, but to not wrongfully charge it against someone who didn’t commit such a serious crime.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/13/what-is-sedition/

 

[beagle9]

donny is ON TAPE.

roger stone ... donny's long time CONfidant, used some of the SAME oathkeepers - that were just busted for SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY - as his PERSONAL SECURITY the day b4 at a 'stop the steal' rally.

& now stone has PLEADED THE 5th because it might INCRIMINATE HIM. can you guess what donny once said about those that plead the 5th?

can you? huh?

HUH HUH HUH????

uh-ohhhhhhhhhhhh..............

If the election was stolen or was manipulated by the convenience of COVID, and that fact is finally proven over time, would that exonerate in your mind everyone that was being labeled as un-American for believing one of the most popular Presidents in U.S. history ?? If it is proven that Trump is innocent of the accusations made against him concerning all things political or government, would that exonerate in your mind all who followed along in support of his America first policies ??? Or would you hold fast to your hatred based upon your agenda that might seek to destroy anyone that is against your agenda, where as they choose not your agenda, and just want to be left alone ?? What is it with you and your clan of like minded individuals here ??

 

[beagle9]

donny can be charged with insurrection under the definition set forth in the US code.

Your hopes to stop his political goals and return ? Tell the truth, why do you hate Trump so much when so many Americans have no problem with Trump ??

 

[Delldude]

donny can be charged with insurrection under the definition set forth in the US code.

You a lawyer now....LOL

 

[Delldude]

donny can be charged with insurrection under the definition set forth in the US code.

Senate Democrats believe there is a good chance the Department of Justice will prosecute former President Trump for trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election and inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, which would have major political reverberations ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

Democratic lawmakers say they don’t have any inside information on what might happen and describe Attorney General Merrick Garland as someone who would make sure to run any investigation strictly “by the book.”

Democrats see good chance of Garland prosecuting Trump

 

[JGalt]

where are kevin mcspineless' reply texts back to sean hannity, brian kilmeade, laura braun, traitor tot, jimhominahominahominajordan?

You're looking for something that only exists in your paranoid and confused little mind. Just like you did for four whole years with your "Russian Collusion" farce.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

where are kevin mcspineless' reply texts back to sean hannity, brian kilmeade, laura braun, traitor tot, jimhominahominahominajordan?

Kevin Mcspineless...lolol.I like that..........Laura Braun????....lololol.Traitor tot????....lol..You're priceless

I would be more than happy to see all those emails too. I have no problem with it

There is going to be a real 1/6 investigation come next year. There were FBI plants everywhere. You guys creating this committee was a real boo boo...lol

 

[Grumblenuts]

In an article asking whether prosecutors are investigating Trump, the Washington Post buried evidence that prosecutors believe Rudy has ties to the militias who organized the event in paragraph 30.

One might think it newsworthy that an attorney for the Proud Boys revealed that prosecutors are, in fact, investigating Rudy’s militia ties. But the WaPo took from that, instead, that DOJ is not investigating Trump or anyone who might have been coordinating with the militias from the Willard Hotel.

Marcy nicely serves up the term "Trump flunkies" at the start. Why Jeff Bezos has the WaPo scrambling to cover Trump's ass much like his "flunkies" here also seems a compelling question.

 

[jbander]

Insurrection could lead to a treason charge, which carries the death penalty.

Its 10 years ace.

 

[jbander]

Why aren't they being charged with insurrection, then? It oughta to be a slam dunk. Right?

Yup they haven't been charged yet with insurrection. Better brought out right before the 2022 election in my opinion.