State Duma deputy: Putin gives Ukraine and the West a sense of imminent victory

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It looks like be true.

This will make them "lay out all their trump cards.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is intentionally creating the feeling of an early victory in Ukraine and the West. State Duma deputy and political technologist Oleg Matveichev stated this.
According to him, the Russian President will not strike a lightning decisive blow, but will continue to create an illusion in the West, as if Russia is about to be defeated. The parliamentarian said on his YouTube channel that such a strategy would force the West to show its capabilities and "lay out all the trump cards."
"Putin will make the Ukrainians feel like they are about to win, until he has disposed of every possible NATO weapon there is. He will walk like a tightrope walker on the very edge, keeping the situation so that the Ukrainians and the West have the feeling that Russia is about to collapse. And we need to understand this and fully trust our Supreme Commander-in-Chief. He is a wrestler, he has a very high dan in judo. This is a man who clearly understands what balance is and knows how to fight, he knows what a strong opponent is. Putin wants to create a feeling that he has some weaknesses, that he's about to lose, and then abruptly - a blow to the liver," said the expert.

Matveichev added that the widespread propaganda of an imminent "peremogi" in the Ukrainian and Western media plays into the hands of the Russian president. It is to his advantage that Europe and the USA will be under these illusions until the time for decisive strikes comes.

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Pretty fanciful thinking.

"We're not losing, Putin just wants NATO to think we are losing". Fits right in with "Kiev was a feint".

The logic is impeccable. If NATO thinks Russia is on the verge of defeat, "it would force the West to show its capabilities and "lay out all the trump cards." :cuckoo:
 
Pretty fanciful thinking.

"We're not losing, Putin just wants NATO to think we are losing". Fits right in with "Kiev was a feint".

The logic is impeccable. If NATO thinks Russia is on the verge of defeat, "it would force the West to show its capabilities and "lay out all the trump cards." :cuckoo:

Both Biden and Putin are idiots.
Do you want to be involved in WWIII instigated by those morons?
 
Both Biden and Putin are idiots.
Do you want to be involved in WWIII instigated by those morons?
No one wants WW3, but the West should not submit to nuclear blackmail.

If Putin is allowed to annex part of Ukraine now, there's nothing to stop him from doing it again later. He can build his new Russian empire by absorbing his neighbors piecemeal, with a phony excuse and the threat of nuclear war if anyone resists.
 
No one wants WW3, but the West should not submit to nuclear blackmail.

If Putin is allowed to annex part of Ukraine now, there's nothing to stop him from doing it again later. He can build his new Russian empire by absorbing his neighbors piecemeal, with a phony excuse and the threat of nuclear war if anyone resists.

Not the West, but NATO is the root of all problems between Russia and the West which broke its promise and didn't dissolved the obsolete organisation which had been created to scary USSR


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Baron NATO never promised to disband, and yes, the assurances from Clinton were worthless.

NATO doesn't coerce countries to join- they apply for membership, and they have a lot of hoops to jump through to get in. No one forces them- they can join the CIS if they want to, and NATO doesn't threaten war.

Ukraine was a CIS founding member, Russia still attacked them...

Europe was being sensitive to Russia's concerns. Finland and Sweden were not considering joining NATO, and Germany and France were not receptive to the idea of Ukraine joining. Neither was Hungary or Italy. In practical terms, Ukraine was years away at best, even if NATO-Europe somehow came into agreement.

No one forced Putin's hand here. He did this on his own timetable.

For 30 years NATO has been an alliance in search of a mission, and Putin just provided it. Now all the things he didn't want to happen are going to happen. Finland and Sweden will join, Ukraine will join, Russia will militarize the western border, and NATO will do the same thing in response.
 
Baron NATO never promised to disband, and yes, the assurances from Clinton were worthless.

NATO doesn't coerce countries to join- they apply for membership, and they have a lot of hoops to jump through to get in. No one forces them- they can join the CIS if they want to, and NATO doesn't threaten war.

Ukraine was a CIS founding member, Russia still attacked them...

Europe was being sensitive to Russia's concerns. Finland and Sweden were not considering joining NATO, and Germany and France were not receptive to the idea of Ukraine joining. Neither was Hungary or Italy. In practical terms, Ukraine was years away at best, even if NATO-Europe somehow came into agreement.

No one forced Putin's hand here. He did this on his own timetable.

For 30 years NATO has been an alliance in search of a mission, and Putin just provided it. Now all the things he didn't want to happen are going to happen. Finland and Sweden will join, Ukraine will join, Russia will militarize the western border, and NATO will do the same thing in response.
And Russia will go broke AGAIN trying to match western military capabilities while the oligarchs like Putin loot its economy.
 
Ukraine's artillery C3i is better than NATO's. This is a great thread from Trent Telenko.


Ukraine isn't Russia. By now a considerable part of Ukraine's artillery park is either US produced or NATO produced weapons and much of their modern firecontrol and counter battery capability is US or NATO.
 
And Russia will go broke AGAIN trying to match western military capabilities while the oligarchs like Putin loot its economy.

A plan which seems highly unlikely with sanctions in place which not only limit their money coming in, but western parts as well, which make up a large part of their components. Not a single missle is made with anything but. Even their tanks and all their jets and vehicles are made with western components.
 
And Russia will go broke AGAIN trying to match western military capabilities while the oligarchs like Putin loot its economy.
Russia may go broke just trying to rebuild its military after all the losses it has received in the Ukraine.


 
Ukraine isn't Russia. By now a considerable part of Ukraine's artillery park is either US produced or NATO produced weapons and much of their modern firecontrol and counter battery capability is US or NATO.
They have had the AN/TPQ-36 Firefinders in low numbers for a couple years, and some additional units were added last month. The M777's are starting to enter the fight. But the Ukrainians have leap-frogged NATO on the targeting and C3i.

When western countries announced the heavy weapons, I was thinking about how long it would take to train Ukrainian crews. I was also thinking about how the Ukrainian artillery fire is so freaky good, that the Ukrainians just might end up being the ones doing the training.

Now I get it. They eliminated the ground based infrastructure. They don't need command and control vehicles to coordinate artillery fire. Designating a target is like calling an uber, and any sensor is as good as any other. They can execute accurate TOT strikes with any weapon in range- drones, artillery, SF teams with ATGM's, it doesn't matter. All they need is a GPS, a SATLINK, and the app. 30 seconds to designate the target and fire. That's nuts.

Now add 102x M777, and a couple hundred thousand GPS guided artillery shells and/or PGK fuse kits. "Meatgrinder" doesn't even begin to describe it.

I've been hearing Western military people talk about how the Russian Generals didn't seem to understand their own war fighting doctrine. This GIS-Art is the reason. The Russians have no choice but to scatter their guns all over the place in individual emplacements, else they all get blown up together.

Ukraine and SpaceX are writing the manual on 21st century ground war.
 
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