Starting tomorrow, if you’re on public assistance, you can’t wire money out of the country.

[excalibur]

Another step in regaining control.

Follow the money.

 

[Concerned American]

Another step in regaining control.

Follow the money.

Sounds good but how are they going to determine who is on public assistance and how will this stop money from being mailed out? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, but I don't understand how they will accomplish it.

 

[White 6]

Another step in regaining control.

Follow the money.

Interesting, and I certainly would not disagree with it. But, how do you enforce it? How do you catch them doing it, when you could actually just pay somebody else, not on assistance to send it for you.

 

[toobfreak]

Another step in regaining control.

It SOUNDS like a good thing until you realize that to do that, all 50 states will have to put a block on all of the bank accounts and holdings of EVERY person on assistance hoping to get 1 in 10,000 actually wiring money.

And never mind anyone on assistance with some legitimate need to wire money out of the USA, maybe back to a poor, suffering, dying father in the old country.

So now, every person on assistance will be treated like a criminal with their privacy invaded and their freedom taken away. Doubly bad if it was the government which put you on assistance to begin with.

ITMT, while this costs the country millions of dollars, those few actually wiring money will just do it some other way. I understand that in one case, they literally just filled suitcases with millions in cash. Fully legal as long as they declare it to TSA.

Or they will simply wire the money to a friend or relative NOT on PA, then THEY will wire it out of the country.

Once again, your bank just became your Big(ger) Brother watching you, ever-ready to "report" on you.

 

[Concerned American]

Once again, your bank just became your Big(ger) Brother watching you, ever-ready to "report" on you.

Too late, Biden already made them report anything you do over $600.

 

[toobfreak]

Too late, Biden already made them report anything you do over $600.

So basically, first they force you to use their banks, then the banks essentially spy on you now reporting everything you do like you are a criminal. Then they justify it as a necessary evil to catch the bag guys.

But then, as we are finding out now, they don't even do that much. We are overrun with bad guys. One state has stolen 9 billion dollars and they couldn't even catch that.

But they sure know what you did with your $600 to buy a new lawn mower.

 

[Godboy]

Sounds good but how are they going to determine who is on public assistance and how will this stop money from being mailed out? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, but I don't understand how they will accomplish it.

From Google AI...

Knowing Who is on Welfare

Government agencies are aware of individuals receiving public assistance through the application and verification process.



Agencies like the Social Security Administration and the Department of Health and Human Services use databases to track federal fund distribution and ensure recipients meet eligibility criteria.



Eligibility workers enforce strict rules based on documentation but do not typically monitor recipients' spending or travel as long as eligibility requirements are met.



The new measures will utilize existing financial tracking and potentially new regulations to target funds linked to unlawful status or fraud, rather than broadly monitoring all welfare recipients' international transfers.

 

[Marener]

Seems pretty authoritarian.

 

[Harry Dresden]

why public assistance?....why not all the non Americans who dont get taxed but send thousands of dollars out of the country?.......

 

[Correll]

Seems pretty authoritarian.

It is pretty heavy handed, but it is a brilliant filter to a serious problem/conflict of interests.

I have always been... skeptical of the complaint of illegals sending money back to other countries.


Though I want them deported, once they do the work, even if it is illegal for them to be here, they have earned the money and it is their property.


BUT, with this, you are not stopping the hard working invader, who earned money from doing what he wants with it,

you are stopping an invader from sending the money of American taxpayers to help other countries.


That is a reasonable compromise.


Please do not pretend to not know that money is fungible, and make the argument of tracking individual dollars, to discrminate between money earned from work and food stamps, for example.

 

[1srelluc]

I've no idea how that would even work.

 

[Correll]

I've no idea how that would even work.

Shouldn't be too hard to get a list of people on public assistance...


If you require people to identify themselves before wiring money, then you can compare the lists...

I would think.

 

[Meathead]

Interesting, and I certainly would not disagree with it. But, how do you enforce it? How do you catch them doing it, when you could actually just pay somebody else, not on assistance to send it for you.

Well you see, first you make it a crime and then when people are caught they get prosecuted.

I'll write it so you can understand it with lotsa commas:

Well, you see, first you make it a crime, and then, when people get caught, they get prosecuted.

Sorry, I can't do Learing Center grammar and spelling, but I tried to insert as many commas as possible in a sentence.

 

[Meathead]

Shouldn't be too hard to get a list of people on public assistance...


If you require people to identify themselves before wiring money, then you can compare the lists...

I would think.

What Is Hawala? Money Transfer Without Money Movement

Discover how Hawala, a trust-based, informal money transfer system, works, the legal risks involved, and its regulation across various countries.

www.investopedia.com

This way it's hard to track and Al Shabab gets it's cut of US taxpayers money to Somalia.

 

[Marener]

It is pretty heavy handed, but it is a brilliant filter to a serious problem/conflict of interests.

I have always been... skeptical of the complaint of illegals sending money back to other countries.


Though I want them deported, once they do the work, even if it is illegal for them to be here, they have earned the money and it is their property.


BUT, with this, you are not stopping the hard working invader, who earned money from doing what he wants with it,

you are stopping an invader from sending the money of American taxpayers to help other countries.


That is a reasonable compromise.


Please do not pretend to not know that money is fungible, and make the argument of tracking individual dollars, to discrminate between money earned from work and food stamps, for example.

Where did it say anything about these people being illegal immigrants? You just made that assumption based out of prejudice.

I don’t see any legal basis for this, they’re just making a decree.

 

[OldFlame]

There should be a ban from wiring funds to certain countries, much more simple.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Seems pretty authoritarian.

Any attempt to mitigate any type of fraud, waste, and abuse seems authoritarian with you people.

 

[Correll]

Where did it say anything about these people being illegal immigrants? You just made that assumption based out of prejudice.

I don’t see any legal basis for this, they’re just making a decree.

Actually, I made an assumption based on the way this issue has been discussed over the last several years.

You are correct though, it did not mention illegals.

This is even BETTER than just focusing on illegals.

Very GOOD!!!

 

[Marener]

Actually, I made an assumption based on the way this issue has been discussed over the last several years.

You are correct though, it did not mention illegals.

This is even BETTER than just focusing on illegals.

Very GOOD!!!

It’s a silly assumption to make given it’s an out public assistance and illegal aliens aren’t on public assistance.

It’s about citizens.

What’s the lawful basis for preventing citizens from sending their money overseas?

 

[Marener]

Any attempt to mitigate any type of fraud, waste, and abuse seems authoritarian with you people.

This has nothing to do with fraud. You’re making excuses for yourself.