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[Litwin]

it was certainly not anywhere near 25

it was near 25 for sure.

 

[Litwin]

I see after that film that Democrats love illegal aliens thanks to understanding Stalin's collectivization where peasants like illegals are rounded up to work at Democrats farms. Wonder if Democrats also plan to cut the calves off women and eat them?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Litwin is feeling sprightly today.

 

[Robert W]

I didn't suggest he only ran Russia for one year.

I pointed out that the USSR had a 30% increase in its population between 1926 and 1954 (when Stalin kicked the bucket).

This is despite Stalin supposedly killing 60 million or 25 million people on top of losing 20 million people in the war.

By comparison, the US had a 34% increase in its population in those years, having no political purges, no famines, taking relatively LIGHT casualties in WWII, and having a vigorous amount of immigration.

So one has to conclude that either.

1) Them Russian Babes were ******* like rabbits to produce replacement babies.

or

2) As bad as Stalin was (and I admit he was bad), it was certainly not anywhere near 25 or 60 million people.

Joe, Well done on your part to defend the communists. I understand your need to save your balls.

You reject an honest study and really to me I don't care to deal more on this issue.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, Well done on your part to defend the communists. I understand your need to save your balls.

You reject an honest study and really to me I don't care to deal more on this issue.

Your concession is duly noted, Mormon Boy!

If you throw out an absurd number not based in reality, you can't have a discussion on the merits.

 

[Robert W]

Your concession is duly noted, Mormon Boy!

If you throw out an absurd number not based in reality, you can't have a discussion on the merits.

Not a a concession Chinese boy.
Joe, there is the best book on this topic. I said the name and explained the authors are real experts. I don't personally have my figure as you think you do. I simply looked it up in my own book purchased maybe when you were young.

 

[JoeB131]

Not a a concession Chinese boy.
Joe, there is the best book on this topic. I said the name and explained the authors are real experts. I don't personally have my figure as you think you do. I simply looked it up in my own book purchased maybe when you were young.

You use the kind of stupid bircher nonsense that they've used since the cold war.

Stalin didn't have 60 million people to kill, that's the point, you ****.

He maybe killed 2 million directly and another 5 million through famines.

 

[Litwin]

He maybe killed 2 million directly and another 5 million through famines.

RT propaganda , Lenin-Koba killed many more ,

Droughts and famines in Russia and the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Soviet Massive Deportations - A Chronology | Sciences Po Violence de masse et Résistance - Réseau de recherche

1934: Josef Stalin, who had ruled the USSR with an iron hand since the end of the 1920s, launched the Great Purge in January 1934 to consolidate his power.

www.sciencespo.fr

do your math !




manmade famines are not direct kill?

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• Litwin

ps

 

[Robert W]

Stalin didn't have 60 million people to kill, that's the point, you ****.

non sequitur. My claim is not 60 million and apparently you do not understand the Soviets at all.

 

[leftwinger]

mass murderer, dictator, deal with Hitler which started WWII. If Stalin backed Poland in 1939 Hitler would not have invaded. There still may have been war later on perhaps.

I probably should take time to watch stuff like this and maybe learn something? VS. Going round and round with Stain BS and GOVT hogwash that is not happening and nothing we can do about any of it. IT is MADDENING what they have done penalty free.

Maybe summarize it for us "need now" no time, must keep moving fast.....idiots.

 

[Robert W]

He maybe killed 2 million directly and another 5 million through famines.

 

[Robert W]

He maybe killed 2 million directly and another 5 million through famines.

Defending Stalin is a hell of a lot of fun for you JoeB131.

 

[JoeB131]

non sequitur. My claim is not 60 million and apparently you do not understand the Soviets at all.

I understand the Soviets fine.

They were bastards.

They just weren't the bastards that the Nazis were.

 

[JoeB131]

Defending Stalin is a hell of a lot of fun for you JoeB131.

Not at all. I just dislike historical inaccuracy.

I'm the kind of person who will watch a WWII movie and get upset when the costume department got rank insignias wrong.

And don't even get me started on the Gladiator movies.

 

[Robert W]

They just weren't the bastards that the Nazis were.

Back you showed up to defend Stalin. As you are trained to do.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Or he thought he could make a deal in the face of Western Fecklessness.

You see, the entire war could have been avoided if the Western Allies had made a deal with Stalin and told Hitler that chopping up Czechoslovakia was unacceptable. The USSR had a treaty with the Czechs, but it was based on France and the UK holding up THEIR obligations.

Instead, they held a conference in Munich that sold out the Czechs.

Stalin was more of a threat than Hitler. The Third Reich was always going to self-destruct as Hitler lost power. The Communists had an iron grip on power in the USSR and viewed every other government as enemies that would destroy the USSR if given a chance. Putin still believes that and is trying to act on it.

 

[AZrailwhale]

A student of mine is working on a history paper comparing and contrasting Mao and Stalin. She had no idea who they were.

Why does that not surprise me.

 

[Robert W]

Stalin was more of a threat than Hitler. The Third Reich was always going to self-destruct as Hitler lost power. The Communists had an iron grip on power in the USSR and viewed every other government as enemies that would destroy the USSR if given a chance. Putin still believes that and is trying to act on it.

Yes and the defender of Stalin JoeB131 forgot that Stalin stole the A bomb from the USA and NEVER had Hitler stole from the USA. Joe defends FDR. FDR hated blacks. FDR hated Jews. FDR kept them away from the USA. FDR hated the Japanese. HE jailed thousands of them.
Germany did come close to defeating JoeB131 favorite Communist but don't fear, he also came to the aid of XI of China.

 

[Robert W]

JoeB131 He maybe killed 2 million directly and another 5 million through famines.

Just how awesome you think of 2 million Joe. What a great murderer he was. Just 2 million and yet you defend this scum.

 

[Unkotare]

Why does that not surprise me.

Surprised me.