Stalin

[JoeB131]

Stalin was more of a threat than Hitler. The Third Reich was always going to self-destruct as Hitler lost power. The Communists had an iron grip on power in the USSR and viewed every other government as enemies that would destroy the USSR if given a chance. Putin still believes that and is trying to act on it.

Well, the real question was, who was Stalin a threat to? Answer- he was a threat to Rich people, which is why the West, feckless as they were, ignored Japanese and German Aggression for more than a decade hoping the Axis Powers would take out those dirty-stinking commies before they redistributed the wealth or anything.

And in the end, the world had to rely on Stalin to save it from the Axis. "Save us, Mr. Commie!!!"

Whoops, Stalin Saved us, but now he's keeping Eastern Europe and arming the Commies in China! Those dirty stinking Commies!!!

Why does that not surprise me.

Given that they have Drippy as a teacher, I'm surprised they know much of anything.

Yes and the defender of Stalin @JoeB131 forgot that Stalin stole the A bomb from the USA and NEVER had Hitler stole from the USA. Joe defends

Well, it kind of depends how you define "Stole". The Soviets were working on their own bomb program. We got there first and thought we could intimidate the rest of the world with a monopoly.

The US was the only country to use nukes on people. (At least so far). That doesn't put us on a moral high plane.

Joe defends FDR. FDR hated blacks. FDR hated Jews. FDR kept them away from the USA. FDR hated the Japanese. HE jailed thousands of them.

Uh, yes, he jailed people who might be sympathetic to the Axis. It wasn't just Japanese. We also locked up 20,000 Germans and 5,000 Italians who had fascist sympathies. Given some of the other shit done by other powers (Axis and Allies) during the war, this seems, really kind of tame.

"What's the worst thing you ever did?"
Chaing: I flooded the Yellow River and killed 300,000 of my own people!
Japan: I slaughtered 300,000 civilians in Nanking, and did the Bataan Death March.
Churchill: I let 4 million Bengals starve to death because I rerouted resources away from them.
Stalin: Man, I did a number on the Volga Germans!!
Hitler: Need you ask?

FDR: "Well, um, I locked up some people who were too sympathetic to the enemy for a short time, and released most of them before the war was even over."

Germany did come close to defeating @JoeB131 favorite Communist but don't fear, he also came to the aid of XI of China.

 

[Soupnazi630]

So what? Why do you think East Berlin was destroyed? Did you ever hear of something called WW II? And why shouldn't the Warsaw Pact nations consist of Communist nations? Did you ever ask yourself why the Western nations were all Capitalist? I am willing to bet that you don't know ..... at all. In fact, I'm sure you know nothing because you never stopped to think. And, BTW, did you not notice that armed troops were also on the Western side of those borders? Duh.

The armed tropps in the west were not stoppinmg anyone from leaving.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It was a necessity. If the Sovjet Union had halted their advance at the Oder you would have been slaughtered to the last man.

All false

 

[Soupnazi630]

Very strange question... I and maybe you live because Stalin defeated Hitler. Always remember that when you hear anti-Stalin propaganda.

That is akin to excusing a mass murderer who helps capure a serial killer

When s monster like Staling defeats a monster like Hitler it does not make him less of a monster and the real bullshit propaganda is from those defending Stalin

 

[Robert W]

Well, the real question was, who was Stalin a threat to? Answer- he was a threat to Rich people, which is why the West, feckless as they were, ignored Japanese and German Aggression for more than a decade hoping the Axis Powers would take out those dirty-stinking commies before they redistributed the wealth or anything.

And in the end, the world had to rely on Stalin to save it from the Axis. "Save us, Mr. Commie!!!"

Whoops, Stalin Saved us, but now he's keeping Eastern Europe and arming the Commies in China! Those dirty stinking Commies!!!

You display your love affair with commies when you discuss Stalin. FDR is who ignored Germany and Japan. We realise to you Stalin was the savior. Why did you ignore the 2,000,000 you admit Russians he murdered to treat him as a savior?

 

[JoeB131]

You display your love affair with commies when you discuss Stalin. FDR is who ignored Germany and Japan.

He did? The reality is prior to Pearl Harbor, most Americans didn't want to go to war again. They looked at WWI, and realized it made the world a worse place. That FDR got involved helping China and Britain as far as he did was quite a lot.

We realise to you Stalin was the savior.

No, but you can't underplay the role of the USSR in ending the war.

Why did you ignore the 2,000,000 you admit Russians he murdered to treat him as a savior?

Because it's not relevant to the point.

By way of comparison, Leopold II killed 2 million Congolese to make a profit.

 

[Robert W]

He did? The reality is prior to Pearl Harbor, most Americans didn't want to go to war again. They looked at WWI, and realized it made the world a worse place. That FDR got involved helping China and Britain as far as he did was quite a lot.

Yet FDR poked his nose into Japan's affairs. Hitler was liked by FDR. Hitler hated Jews. Stalin hated Jews. FDR hated Jews. You hate Jews. When told of who abused Jews, JoeB131 always tells us some excuse.

FDR used tax money to help Stalin and England. Charles Lindbergh came back from Germany and the press quoted him as saying Germany was wonderful.

 

[Unkotare]

Joeblow is an entirely shameless apologist for one of the most murderous dictators in history. His devotion to communism is complete. What a douche bag.

 

[Robert W]

Joeblow is an entirely shameless apologist for one of the most murderous dictators in history. His devotion to communism is complete. What a douche bag.

He has guts enough to lay out Stalin's Case and also FDR case though FDR was racist , anti-Semite and provoked Japan.

 

[Unkotare]

He has guts enough to lay out Stalin's Case and also FDR case though FDR was racist , anti-Semite and provoked Japan.

One of only two presidents to throw Americans into concentration camps.

 

[JoeB131]

Yet FDR poked his nose into Japan's affairs.

Um, no. Japan was illegally invading China. He tried to use economic sanctions to stop the bad behavior.

Hitler was liked by FDR.

No, he wasn't.

FDR used tax money to help Stalin and England. Charles Lindbergh came back from Germany and the press quoted him as saying Germany was wonderful.

Yes, Lindbergh was a Nazi Apologist, who totally lost his reputation when the camps got liberated.

He has guts enough to lay out Stalin's Case and also FDR case though FDR was racist , anti-Semite and provoked Japan.

FDR still remains one of our greatest presidents.

As for Stalin, he was a necessary evil. Russia still struggles with his legacy, as he was recently named the third greatest person in their history (After the guy who freed the Serfs and a literal Saint. )