Spy plane flees Russian jet

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Washington (CNN) -- The Cold War aerial games of chicken portrayed in the movie "Top Gun" are happening in real life again nearly 30 years later.
A U.S. Air Force spy plane evaded an encounter with the Russian military on July 18, just a day after Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was downed by a suspected surface-to-air missile that Ukraine and the West allege was fired by pro-Russia rebels in eastern Ukraine.
The RC-135 Rivet Joint fled into nearby Swedish airspace without that country's permission, a U.S. military official told CNN. The airplane may have gone through other countries' airspace as well, though it's not clear if it had permission to do so.
The U.S. plane had been flying in international airspace, conducting an electronic eavesdropping mission on the Russian military, when the Russians took the unusual action of beginning to track it with land-based radar.
The Russians then sent at least one fighter jet into the sky to intercept the aircraft, the U.S. official said Saturday.
The spy plane crew felt so concerned about the radar tracking that it wanted to get out of the area as quickly as possible, the official said. The quickest route away from the Russians took them into Swedish airspace. The U.S. official acknowledged that was done without Swedish military approval.
As a result of this incident, the United States is discussing the matter with Sweden and letting officials know there may be further occurrences where American jets have to divert so quickly they may not be able to wait for permission.
"We acknowledge a U.S. aircraft veered into Swedish airspace and will take active steps to ensure we have properly communicated with Swedish authorities in advance to prevent similar issues before they arise," the U.S. State Department said.
The incident was first reported by the Swedish media group DN.se. Russian officials did not provide any immediate reaction about the encounter.
This was at least the second potentially-dangerous encounter between a U.S. plane and Russia over the past few months. On April 23, a Russian Su-27 Flanker fighter jet buzzed within 100 feet of the nose of a U.S. Air Force RC-135U reconnaissance plane over the Sea of Okhotsk between Russia and Japan, a Defense Department official said.
Russian fighter jet nearly collided with U.S. military plane in April
Russian and U.S. aircraft often encounter each other, both in Northern Europe as well as the area between the Russian Far East and Alaska. But the official said the land radar activity by the Russians in this instance was unusual.
The ongoing civil unrest in Ukraine and the downing of MH 17 over eastern Ukraine on July 17, which killed all 298 people aboard, have heightened tensions between Washington and Moscow. Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was brought down by a suspected missile.
Pro-Russia rebels have denied allegations from Ukraine and the West that they shot down the Malaysian airliner, or that Russia supplied equipment used to shoot it down.

U.S. official: Spy plane evaded Russian tracking - CNN.com
 
When I was stationed in Okinawa I knew a Russian Translator who flew on those RC 135U's. He said what they do is saddle up behind civilian airliners and use them as radar cover.

As God as my witness that's what he said.
 
When I was stationed in Okinawa I knew a Russian Translator who flew on those RC 135U's. He said what they do is saddle up behind civilian airliners and use them as radar cover.

As God as my witness that's what he said.

I do not doubt that, and with the continued efforts to recreate the USSR, Russia will only get bolder.
 
When I was stationed in Okinawa I knew a Russian Translator who flew on those RC 135U's. He said what they do is saddle up behind civilian airliners and use them as radar cover.

As God as my witness that's what he said.

I do not doubt that, and with the continued efforts to recreate the USSR, Russia will only get bolder.

So you support our spy planes using civilian aircraft as shields ?
 
"Shields" might be a strong term for it, it isn't like the Russians/Chinese/whoever was sitting there taking pot shots at planes depending on whether they were civilian or RC-135s.
 
"Shields" might be a strong term for it, it isn't like the Russians/Chinese/whoever was sitting there taking pot shots at planes depending on whether they were civilian or RC-135s.

If they did shoot at a snoop guess who they would hit ? I'd venture to say that most civilians who fly those routes would disapprove of the tactics.
 
Putin's latest restrictions on freedom of speech do not apply to Americans; I am glad we are keeping an eye on the now in the process of "rebuilding" USSR.
 
Putin's latest restrictions on freedom of speech do not apply to Americans; I am glad we are keeping an eye on the now in the process of "rebuilding" USSR.

By flying spy planes in the "shadow" of civilian airliners ? no thanks :eusa_hand:
 
When I was stationed in Okinawa I knew a Russian Translator who flew on those RC 135U's. He said what they do is saddle up behind civilian airliners and use them as radar cover.

As God as my witness that's what he said.

I do not doubt that, and with the continued efforts to recreate the USSR, Russia will only get bolder.

So you support our spy planes using civilian aircraft as shields ?

The article does not reference any such tactic.
 
When I was stationed in Okinawa I knew a Russian Translator who flew on those RC 135U's. He said what they do is saddle up behind civilian airliners and use them as radar cover.

As God as my witness that's what he said.
Are the Russians doing the same thing around North America?
I couldn't tell ya' for sure but Advanced Militaries the World over deploy similar Forces and Tactics right? Does that send a chill down yer spine? It should.

You remember when that Korean airliner was shot down? The Russians said they were shooting at an RC-135U. Everyone said "Russian Radar must be sh*t!"

Well, this situation looks much the same.
 
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When I was stationed in Okinawa I knew a Russian Translator who flew on those RC 135U's. He said what they do is saddle up behind civilian airliners and use them as radar cover.

As God as my witness that's what he said.

So is that what happened to the Malaysian airliner?
 
When I was stationed in Okinawa I knew a Russian Translator who flew on those RC 135U's. He said what they do is saddle up behind civilian airliners and use them as radar cover.

As God as my witness that's what he said.

So is that what happened to the Malaysian airliner?
Are there any credible, unclassified sources that could shed light on that question?
 

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