Spoiler Alert: Prosecutors' Tortuous Trump Case Is 'Confusing' to Nearly Everyone

[struth]

Prove she personally paid anything, like the Dirty Don did, or had anything to do with the bookkeeping.

The Clinton campaign hired Perkins Cole, which then hired Fusion GPS, a research and intelligence firm, to conduct opposition research on Republican candidate Donald Trump’s ties to Russia. But on FEC forms, the Clinton campaign classified the spending as legal services.

DNC, Clinton campaign agree to Steele dossier funding fine

Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee have agreed to pay $113,000 to settle a Federal Election Commission investigation.

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The FEC found she did and fined her and she paid

Case closed

 

[Faun]

And? If they want to pursue him for that go right ahead, but that would meant the current felony charge of campaign tampering would need to be thrown out. The bottom line is that they have no real felony case here. They just want to keep Trump busy during the campaign while Joe is out spewing garbage to any useful idiot that will listen.

Of course they have a case. Whatever happened in 2011 has no bearing on what happened in 2016.

 

[Faun]

So what? Nothing. Cohen is a lying, cheating dbag.

Not surprised the dems got in bed with him

LOL

That's funny. Trump is also a "lying, cheating dbag," and you're in bed with him.

As far as Cohen's testimony, it is sus. But what lends him credibility are any emails, text messages and audio recordings he brings with him to corroborate his testimony.

 

[Faun]

So? Doesn’t change the fact she funded it, frankly it’s much worse, the Obama, xiden admin used it to undermine the new admin

And they knew it was illegally obtained by Clinton and full of russian lies she paid for

That’s how deplorable the demafacist are

You have no evidence Hillary obtained it. Now you're just making shit up.

 

[Faun]

Why was it not legal?

Because it was an excessive campaign contribution.

 

[Faun]

But we have already established that Trump had reasons other than his campaign to keep it quiet. That is all that is required. It is up to the prosecution to prove that the sole reason he made the payment was to benefit his campaign. It most certainly was not given that, according to Daniels herself, Trump attempted to keep her quiet in 2011, well prior to Trump's campaign for President. If this is their case, they have lost, unless of course the TDS jury decides to ignore the obvious.

According to the prosecution, they have evidence to prove it was only about the election. They claim they're going to present emails and text messages to show Trump was trying to stall paying Daniels until after the election and then not paying her at all. If they do that, it's game over.

 

[Faun]

I don't think you understand that what they must prove to legally get a felony conviction, they can't. Their only hope is a biased jury and perhaps a biased judge.

No, you don't. They don't need a check to Stormy signed by Trump. All they need to show is Cohen's payment to her was only for the campaign. I'm fact, had Trump paid her directly, none of this would be happening now since Trump was legally allowed to contribute as much as he wanted to his own campaign.

 

[Faun]

The fact that Trump didn't want it brought to light without a Presidential campaign on the horizon is enough.

Ask yourself this question. Would Trump have paid Daniels, using his own money, to sign an NDA if she had threatened to go public even if Trump was not running for President? The clear answer to that is absolutely.

Now, contrast that with Hillary who paid her attorney to investigate her political opponent via the Steele dossier in 2016. That is a clear violation and yet she was only fined.

There's no evidence Hillary did any such thing. You're making up shit.

 

[Faun]

Haha of course she did! She helped pay for it! Hence why the FEC said she violated campaign laws and fined her and the dnc

She was fined $8000, if I recall, for reporting it as a legal expense and not for opposition research. She wasn't fined for her opposition research firm hiring Steele.

 

[Faun]

You're insane. from where are you getting 2006??

Look at the date...

The Hush Money not a "crime" happened 18 years ago!

<crickets>

 

[struth]

LOL

That's funny. Trump is also a "lying, cheating dbag," and you're in bed with him.

As far as Cohen's testimony, it is sus. But what lends him credibility are any emails, text messages and audio recordings he brings with him to corroborate his testimony.

Is that akin to "i know you are, but what am?" very childish...not surprised since you are in bed with a convicted perjurer

 

[struth]

You have no evidence Hillary obtained it. Now you're just making shit up.

Then why did the FEC convict her and why did she pay the fine?

 

[struth]

She was fined $8000, if I recall, for reporting it as a legal expense and not for opposition research. She wasn't fined for her opposition research firm hiring Steele.

Yes, she was fined for covering up that she was paying for the Steele Dossier....what in the world do you think we've been talking about???

 

[Faun]

Is that akin to "i know you are, but what am?" very childish...not surprised since you are in bed with a convicted perjurer

No, it's highlighting your hypocrisy.

 

[Faun]

Then why did the FEC convict her and why did she pay the fine?

Because she recorded it as a legal service and not as opposition research. Her fine had nothing whatsoever to do with Christopher Steele.

 

[struth]

No, it's highlighting your hypocrisy.

what's the hypocrisy? Cohen wasn't a convicted liar when he worked for Trump and he doesn't work for Trump...in fact the Trump admin prosecuted him....he is now working for the Dems

 

[struth]

Because she recorded it as a legal service and not as opposition research. Her fine had nothing whatsoever to do with Christopher Steele.

Yes, she lied, and made fraudulent business records....mmmmm....isn't that what you are prosecting Trump for?

 

[konradv]

November is coming, Konradv! Wait until you see how many supporters Trump has!

I’d say millions fewer than in ‘20.

 

[Faun]

Yes, she was fined for covering up that she was paying for the Steele Dossier....what in the world do you think we've been talking about???

No, you idiot. She was fined for not reporting her payment to Fusion GPS, not for not reporting payment to Christopher Steele, because Steele was hired and paid by Fusion GPS.

Even has Fusion GPS not hired Steele, Hillary and the DNC still would have been fined for not reporting a payment to Fusion GPS.

 

[Faun]

Yes, she lied, and made fraudulent business records....mmmmm....isn't that what you are prosecting Trump for?

Prosect?? Is Trump dead? If you meant prosecute, then yes.