...Special Counsel Jack Smith's filings late last night....

[Curried Goats]

We knew the Democrats would do something to try to distract from the Republican victory yesterday.

Is that what Republican victories look like.....?

 

[Curried Goats]

First amendment protects even those who are being prosecuted until they have been sentenced.

Maybe you morons should learn the boundaries of the First Amendment before you fuck around and find out like Trump's about to.

 

[Seymour Flops]

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I don't know what that means vis-a-vis this desire by the people within our judicial proceedings to protect themselves, their staffs, and importantly, the witnesses involved in important proceedings.

Democrats, Republicans, seem irrelevant here. After all, threats and intimidation has been alleged against both Dems and Republicans.
So let's not overthink this matter. Our judicial proceedings need to be conducted fairly and responsibly and important witnesses must not be subject to threats or intimidation.

That seems so common-sense to most everybody.

Oh, threats and intimidation, huh? Give me the worst example of a threat that Trump made against a witness. That or stop making crap up.

 

[struth]

The First Amendment doesn't apply here. Try reading it sometime.

Actually yes the First Amendment does apply, and is something a Court has to weight in issuing gag orders

 

[Seymour Flops]

It is so cute how you think taking 3 weeks to find a new Speaker is a "victory".

I cannot wait till he makes a compromise with the Dems to pass a CR and you all turn on him and call him a RINO.

It will be so much fun

The reason you think that will be fun is that you completely misunderstood why I'm happy about Mike Johnson becoming speaker. You worship Biden with a swooning love/lust only matched by teenage girls at Beatles concerts. So you assume that's how everyone else worships politicians they support.

I care about Mike Johnson being speaker for exactly as long as his speakership furthers the good of the nation. If he works with Democrats to give us another year of Nancy Pelosi level spending then I sure will call him a RINO. But I'll give him a chance before I do that.

 

[Independentthinker]

On Wednesday night ---last night ----Smith's team filed a motion with the court asking that a more robust gag order be installed against the disgraced former president, Don Trump.

His latest pronouncements ---in front of cameras, in interviews, and on social media ----have caused alarm among judges and prosecutors. In fact, just yesterday, Don Trump was again fined for violating a 'don't-target-my-staff' warning by a judge.

In other words, Smith's filing last night is sort of a 'ba-da-bing'.....a one-two punch .....signaling that the justice community is not going to tolerate a defendant who threatens, or attempts to intimidate court staffs, prosecutorial staffs, .....or most importantly, witnesses.

If you really want to know what my avatar thinks on this ------ well, we think it is a good thing to exercise more discipline in court matters.

Don Trump is being treated with kid gloves by the prosecutors and the courts. No other defendant could get away with such behavior as dissing judges, judges' staff, or prosecutors, witnesses.

Justice needs to treat all the defendants equally and not give highly preferential treatment to any one. So, the various judges involved in the 91 criminal charges against the former president need to exercise proper but stringent control on all the participants...... including Don Trump.




This was reported this morning:

"Special counsel Jack Smith argued in new court filings Wednesday that recent comments by Donald Trump show not only that a federal gag order should be reimposed, but that the court should weigh stricter sanctions, including sending him to jail, if he keeps talking about witnesses in his case.
In recent weeks, Trump’s public statements attacking prosecutors, court personnel and others have raised alarms among judges who worry that such verbal broadsides might inspire someone to commit violence against the subjects of Trump’s wrath.

Without the court’s order, prosecutors wrote, there is an “immediate risk” that witnesses’ testimony “could be influenced or deterred by the defendant’s documented pattern of targeting.”

“Otherwise, ………..the defendant will continue to threaten the integrity of these proceedings and put trial participants at risk,” the 32-page filing argues."

Yes, we know that lefties don't want the truth to be known and that Trump shouldn't have any right to defend himself.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Maybe you morons should learn the boundaries of the First Amendment before you fuck around and find out like Trump's about to.

Spoken like a true idiot he doesn't have an understanding of the first amendment. It not only protects things you like said it also protects those things you don't like said. Trump has that right to defend himself in the court of public opinion.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I care about Mike Johnson being speaker for exactly as long as his speakership furthers the good of the nation. If he works with Democrats to give us another year of Nancy Pelosi level spending then I sure will call him a RINO. But I'll give him a chance before I do that.

He has already stated we will need a CR for at least 3 months, if not 6. In order to make that happen he will have to compromise with the Dems like McCarthy did.

As soon as he does that, you will have to call him a RINO, if you wish to remain consistent.

 

[Curried Goats]

Spoken like a true idiot he doesn't have an understanding of the first amendment. It not only protects things you like said it also protects those things you don't like said. Trump has that right to defend himself in the court of public opinion.

Not as a criminal defendant released on preconditions.

 

[Auld Phart]

On Wednesday night ---last night ----Smith's team filed a motion with the court asking that a more robust gag order be installed against the disgraced former president, Don Trump.

His latest pronouncements ---in front of cameras, in interviews, and on social media ----have caused alarm among judges and prosecutors. In fact, just yesterday, Don Trump was again fined for violating a 'don't-target-my-staff' warning by a judge.

In other words, Smith's filing last night is sort of a 'ba-da-bing'.....a one-two punch .....signaling that the justice community is not going to tolerate a defendant who threatens, or attempts to intimidate court staffs, prosecutorial staffs, .....or most importantly, witnesses.

If you really want to know what my avatar thinks on this ------ well, we think it is a good thing to exercise more discipline in court matters.

Don Trump is being treated with kid gloves by the prosecutors and the courts. No other defendant could get away with such behavior as dissing judges, judges' staff, or prosecutors, witnesses.

Justice needs to treat all the defendants equally and not give highly preferential treatment to any one. So, the various judges involved in the 91 criminal charges against the former president need to exercise proper but stringent control on all the participants...... including Don Trump.




This was reported this morning:

"Special counsel Jack Smith argued in new court filings Wednesday that recent comments by Donald Trump show not only that a federal gag order should be reimposed, but that the court should weigh stricter sanctions, including sending him to jail, if he keeps talking about witnesses in his case.
In recent weeks, Trump’s public statements attacking prosecutors, court personnel and others have raised alarms among judges who worry that such verbal broadsides might inspire someone to commit violence against the subjects of Trump’s wrath.

Without the court’s order, prosecutors wrote, there is an “immediate risk” that witnesses’ testimony “could be influenced or deterred by the defendant’s documented pattern of targeting.”

“Otherwise, ………..the defendant will continue to threaten the integrity of these proceedings and put trial participants at risk,” the 32-page filing argues."

Don Trump is being treated with kid gloves by the prosecutors and the courts.

No more than any former president would be.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Not as a criminal defendant released on preconditions.

Funny shit Trump isn't a criminal

 

[Curried Goats]

Funny shit Trump isn't a criminal

He's an indicted defendant in a case before the court.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He's an indicted defendant in a case before the court.

He's not a criminal and being indicted doesn't make you a criminal

 

[Curried Goats]

He's not a criminal and being indicted doesn't make you a criminal

I didn't say it did you dumb Bingo. I said he was a criminal defendant, which he is.

 

[Seymour Flops]

He has already stated we will need a CR for at least 3 months, if not 6. In order to make that happen he will have to compromise with the Dems like McCarthy did.

As soon as he does that, you will have to call him a RINO, if you wish to remain consistent.

Uh, no.

I never said that the slightest compromise means they're a RINO. Your hero Kevin did not compromise, he surrendered unconditionally.

But if Johnson turns RINO I'll call him on it. Your fear is that he won't.

 

[forkup]

Their is no law that protects a fucked attorney from being called out on their stupidity of the law.

Sure, there is. If the judge deems that calling out inappropriate, and institutes a gag order to prevent the conduct.

Inherent Powers over Contempt and Sanctions

www.law.cornell.edu

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that federal courts possess inherent authority to punish contempt—i.e., disobedience of a court order or obstruction of justice—and to impose other sanctions on parties or attorneys who engage in misconduct.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Uh, no.

I never said that the slightest compromise means they're a RINO. Your hero Kevin did not compromise, he surrendered unconditionally.

But if Johnson turns RINO I'll call him on it. Your fear is that he won't.

You willing to wager on this?

I put the over/under on how long it takes you to call him a RINO at 37 days. I will take the under if you take the over.

 

[Chillicothe]

Fuck off you pretentious POS communist asshole.

Ah, I was sincere poster Sea7, really.
Your responses must be a disappointment to other supporters of Trump.
What you do and do so consistently is re-enforce the widespread perception ...the cliche' really....that Trump supporters are ill-educated, poorly-socialized members of our society. That they are merely angry grievance-filled ne'er-do-wells.

Now I know not all of them fit that sad cliche' but your frequent participation here, makes that perception sadly evident.
I'm confident you can be better.
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"That or stop making crap up."

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Umm, no making up of anything.
I was merely a reporter this morning......
......offering the forum reportage on what the prosecutors filed last night in their attempt to protect themselves, their families, the judges and the clerical staffs involved in this bit of jurisprudence.
If you have a beef with the filing of this motion last night....then the proper course for you would be to call your Congressman or write a letter to the DOJ, or to the editor of your local newspaper.
Your anger is misplaced.
IMHO

 

[Seymour Flops]

You willing to wager on this?

I put the over/under on how long it takes you to call him a RINO at 37 days. I will take the under if you take the over.

Sure, if you can trust me not to stall calling him a RINO just to win the wager.

It might be more fair to set it for a longer time. Kevin got 8 months to prove himself.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Ah, I was sincere poster Sea7, really.
Your responses must be a disappointment to other supporters of Trump.
What you do and do so consistently is re-enforce the widespread perception ...the cliche' really....that Trump supporters are ill-educated, poorly-socialized members of our society. That they are merely angry grievance-filled ne'er-do-wells.

Now I know not all of them fit that sad cliche' but your frequent participation here, makes that perception sadly evident.
I'm confident you can be better.
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Umm, no making up of anything.
I was merely a reporter this morning......
......offering the forum reportage on what the prosecutors filed last night in their attempt to protect themselves, their families, the judges and the clerical staffs involved in this bit of jurisprudence.
If you have a beef with the filing of this motion last night....then the proper course for you would be to call your Congressman or write a letter to the DOJ, or to the editor of your local newspaper.
Your anger is misplaced.
IMHO

So you have no opinion of whether Trump threatened any witness?