Space, the final frontier. Or is it?

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I've been saying this since I became a scifi geek in my 20s.

Not only are we alone, there is NO evidence any beings from other planets have been here.
It's all been mental manipulation by governments to cover up whatever it is people witnessed.

Plant a seed of doubt, and the lowest of intellects will make sure that seed of doubt grows into a million different conspiracies.
 
Hmmmmm.
I think there's pretty strong evidence we're not alone, not just in the universe but on this planet.
 
THIS...............



I've been saying this since I became a scifi geek in my 20s.

Not only are we alone, there is NO evidence any beings from other planets have been here.
It's all been mental manipulation by governments to cover up whatever it is people witnessed.

Plant a seed of doubt, and the lowest of intellects will make sure that seed of doubt grows into a million different conspiracies.

trillions of stars, it only takes one goldylocks planet system like we have for something to be out there

into religion or not but if god is the creator he does not stop at his first painting and say "this one is perfect, I don't think I'll paint anymore"
 
Not only are we alone, there is NO evidence any beings from other planets have been here.

Actually, there is a TON of evidence than aliens have been here and perhaps still are.
  • I personally witnessed craft in the 1960s which violated every physical law known to man. Either the USA has secret technology from the 27th century it is sitting on, or it was taken from aliens. Either way, such technology exists because I've seen it.
  • A close friend I knew for 35 years told me on his death bed that he had been abducted by aliens in his youth, and he was the most grounded person I've ever known in my life.
  • I have background in astronomy (I've even taught it), and if you knew the odds of us being totally alone, it is a literal impossibility.
The real problem is time. Our civilization has only had radio for 1 century. For all we know, there are far better ways for advanced civilizations to communicate. After all, radio was discovered by people using 19th century technology with vacuum tubes and carbon pads. If people centuries ahead of us technologically don't have anything better, I'd be shocked.

We have been probing space for signals for about 40 years. That is about 0.000000355% of the age of the universe or about 1/2,500,000th the time that the universe has been around, and our radio signals have only traveled out about 100 light years by now, our own backyard, astronomically speaking.

That makes it highly likely that we have not even begun to look at a tiny fraction of the universe in a minuscule period of time it has existed, or that they are already here but realize we are far too backward and primitive yet to risk revealing their presence to us on any grand scale.

Then again, maybe the easiest way to conquer someone is to do it clandestinely and quietly before they even realize it.
 
Actually, there is a TON of evidence than aliens have been here and perhaps still are.
  • I personally witnessed craft in the 1960s which violated every physical law known to man. Either the USA has secret technology from the 27th century it is sitting on, or it was taken from aliens. Either way, such technology exists because I've seen it.
  • A close friend I knew for 35 years told me on his death bed that he had been abducted by aliens in his youth, and he was the most grounded person I've ever known in my life.
  • I have background in astronomy (I've even taught it), and if you knew the odds of us being totally alone, it is a literal impossibility.
The real problem is time. Our civilization has only had radio for 1 century. For all we know, there are far better ways for advanced civilizations to communicate. After all, radio was discovered by people using 19th century technology with vacuum tubes and carbon pads. If people centuries ahead of us technologically don't have anything better, I'd be shocked.

We have been probing space for signals for about 40 years. That is about 0.000000355% of the age of the universe or about 1/2,500,000th the time that the universe has been around, and our radio signals have only traveled out about 100 light years by now, our own backyard, astronomically speaking.

That makes it highly likely that we have not even begun to look at a tiny fraction of the universe in a minuscule period of time it has existed, or that they are already here but realize we are far too backward and primitive yet to risk revealing their presence to us on any grand scale.

Then again, maybe the easiest way to conquer someone is to do it clandestinely and quietly before they even realize it.
Not saying we are alone in the entire universe, because we don't know the extent of it.

But we are alone in our sector.

And I deal strictly in logic and cold facts.

My 6th grade history teacher was an ex-military Colonel I think, they wanted to make him big name General, but he said no.
He told us he was tired of the lies, backstabbing, and of the goverment and military using the average American as a guineapig.
During the week, we would read history from our history books, then he would tell us what REALLY happened. Blew our minds away.

The one thing we came away with from that class, was learning his motto...........history is not what happened, it is what was written by the winners, who want you to believe they won for being "good" people.

On Fridays, we got to ask him questions about anything, and he promised to tell us the absolute truth about it.

Someone asked about UFO's, since it was the 70's and the UFO craze was beginning to take off in all directions.

He told us that the government is AT LEAST 100 years past any current technology being used that the public may know about.
He said that ALL governments around the world hold on very tightly to future tech they design and build, as they want to be in full control of how socieities on this planet evolve. Governments want to be IN CONTROL, PERIOD. And the best way to control the masses, is with technology.

Big Foot, aliens, etc.........all government created conspiracies and ghost stories to keep the sheeples fascinated and at each others throats, squabbling on "is there or isn't there", while government secretly trogs ahead with more future tech to be released when the government feels sufficient enough it will effect the masses they way THEY WANT IT TO.

What ever you may see in the sky that cannot remotely be defined by nature or science, is more than likely the government testing out new tech, new theories, or new ways of covering up what they are doing.

And realizing this, along with using logic in everything in my life, has resulted in me being able to decypher most of what I've seen, heard, or witnessed myself. And none of it has been extraterrestrial in nature.
 
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I've been saying this since I became a scifi geek in my 20s.

Not only are we alone, there is NO evidence any beings from other planets have been here.
It's all been mental manipulation by governments to cover up whatever it is people witnessed.

Plant a seed of doubt, and the lowest of intellects will make sure that seed of doubt grows into a million different conspiracies.

The late great Stanton Friedman postulated that we are a quarantined species....Exiled to this obscure corner of the universe because of our inability to cease engaging in tribal warfare.
 
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trillions of stars, it only takes one goldylocks planet system like we have for something to be out there

into religion or not but if god is the creator he does not stop at his first painting and say "this one is perfect, I don't think I'll paint anymore"
If you're the creator of a video game and one of your characters looks up at the star filled sky, why does another world have to exist?
 
The late great Stanton Friedman postulated that we are a quarantined spices....Exiled to this obscure corner of the universe because of our inability to cease engaging in tribal warfare.

Quarantined spices huh?

What spices would that be?

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If you're the creator of a video game and one of your characters looks up at the star filled sky, why does another world have to exist?
As Sagan would tell you, why does another world NOT need to exist

not sure a video game is quite the same, um games like mass effect has many worlds as well as star wars and many others like star citizen which is huge
 
As Sagan would tell you, why does another world NOT need to exist

not sure a video game is quite the same, um games like mass effect has many worlds
Because.... God
The Creator of our universe
 
Because.... God
The Creator of our universe
that was my point, a creator does not stop creating

did rembrandt, picasso, titian, michalangelo just stop.......one and done? not at all
 
Oh, indeed... I fervently believe that the VAST majority of UFO reports that truly seem show some type of wicked hi-technology are actually our government playing with its toys. I also believe that Roswell was created (or merely played) to separate the masses into two camps: One which believes it could only be swamp gas or weather balloons, and another which believes it was little grey guys from outer space.

However I don't discount the possibility that we have been visited before, particularly when I think of all the pyramid building cultures throughout the world who seemed to have a lot of the same knowledge. Butnai still think most reports are deep factions within our government screwing around with things.
 
Laugh all you want...It makes a certain sense, given all the things that were revealed to you by your former Colonel/teacher.
I was making fun of your spelling. LOL

I know you meant SPECIES, but you wrote SPICES.

Just jabbing you in the ribs. LOL
 
Oh, indeed... I fervently believe that the VAST majority of UFO reports that truly seem show some type of wicked hi-technology are actually our government playing with its toys. I also believe that Roswell was created (or merely played) to separate the masses into two camps: One which believes it could only be swamp gas or weather balloons, and another which believes it was little grey guys from outer space.

However I don't discount the possibility that we have been visited before, particularly when I think of all the pyramid building cultures throughout the world who seemed to have a lot of the same knowledge. Butnai still think most reports are deep factions within our government screwing around with things.

I ran across a new Roswell "documentary" a few years ago on cable TV.

This one wasn't about the crash and aliens, so much as it was about what the aliens actually WERE.

According to this "documentary", there have been (possibly still are) programs to alter the human genome or DNA, into something that can withstand space radiations, being weightless, being cold, and being able to withstand The Speed Of Light travel.

According to this video I watched (no, I don't remember the name of it), the Roswell crash was a crash of a test ship with genome altered pilots. And the first thing they did was remove the pilots before anybody saw them, hence how a few people were able to see some parts of the craft before they got to clean up the area. They didn't want anyone seeing the pilots, although there have been some claims to this......but anyone actually having seen the bodies is quickly dismissed, as those that claim to have moved the bodies state they looked different than what others claimed to have seen.

Anywhoo...........the base of the video was that the government had a new group of genetically altered pilots to fly their latest space tech.
It so happened, either the pilots couldn't handle the ship in order to fly it to space, or something happened to the ship to cause it to crash.
The pilots themselves are believed to either be genetically engineered "test tube" entities, or genetically mutilated babies allowed to grow up into "adults" and be trained for flying in space.
 
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As Sagan would tell you, why does another world NOT need to exist

not sure a video game is quite the same, um games like mass effect has many worlds as well as star wars and many others like star citizen which is huge

I loved Carl Sagan!!!! I miss his PBS shows greatly.

The ONLY scientist that could speak in a way I completely understood. Even though I might not have ever heard many of the terms he used before, the way he spoke and explained things, I knew exactly what they meant.
 
I ran across a new Roswell "documentary" a few years ago on cable TV.

This one wasn't about the crash and aliens, so much as it was about what the aliens actually WERE.

According to this "documentary", there have been (possibly still are) programs to alter the human genome or DNA, into something that can withstand space radiations, being weightless, being cold, and being able to withstand The Speed Of Light travel.

According to this video I watched (no, I don't remember the name of it), the Roswell crash was a crash of a test ship with genome altered pilots. And the first thing they did was remove the pilots before anybody saw them, hence how a few people were able to see some parts of the craft before they got to clean up the area. They didn't want anyone seeing the pilots, although there have been some claims to this......but anyone actually having seen the bodies is quickly dismissed, as those that claim to have moved the bodies state they looked different than what others claimed to have seen.

Anywhoo...........the base of the video was that the government had a new group of genetically altered pilots to fly their latest space tech.
It so happened, either the pilots couldn't handle the ship in order to fly it to space, or something happened to the ship to cause it to crash.
The pilots themselves are believed to either be genetically engineered "test tube" entities, or genetically mutilated babies allowed to grow up into "adults" and be trained for flying in space.
on the subject there was a tv shows called roswell many years ago, it was a teen show where the characters looked human but had powers like aliens and they tried their best to blend in
I watched it and actually it was pretty good

As for Sagan, I want to say his show was called the cosmos?
 
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I ran across a new Roswell "documentary" a few years ago on cable TV.

This one wasn't about the crash and aliens, so much as it was about what the aliens actually WERE.

According to this "documentary", there have been (possibly still are) programs to alter the human genome or DNA, into something that can withstand space radiations, being weightless, being cold, and being able to withstand The Speed Of Light travel.

According to this video I watched (no, I don't remember the name of it), the Roswell crash was a crash of a test ship with genome altered pilots. And the first thing they did was remove the pilots before anybody saw them, hence how a few people were able to see some parts of the craft before they got to clean up the area. They didn't want anyone seeing the pilots, although there have been some claims to this......but anyone actually having seen the bodies is quickly dismissed, as those that claim to have moved the bodies state they looked different than what others claimed to have seen.

Anywhoo...........the base of the video was that the government had a new group of genetically altered pilots to fly their latest space tech.
It so happened, either the pilots couldn't handle the ship in order to fly it to space, or something happened to the ship to cause it to crash.
The pilots themselves are believed to either be genetically engineered "test tube" entities, or genetically mutilated babies allowed to grow up into "adults" and be trained for flying in space.
If there were genome altered pilots in 1947, seems to me their genomes must have been altered decades before that. If the average age of such a personal was, say, 30...or 40...that would likely place their births in the very early 20th century. And that would mean that successful research into genome altering would have been taking place in the late 1800's. Genome altering doesn't just morph a person from normalcy into a freak right away. They would have to be altered in the womb, or the sperm or egg would have to have been altered.There is no evidence of anyone doing that level of gene manipulation in those days anywhere. Watson & Crick didn't even discover the structure of DNA 🧬 until 1952, I believe. You'd think if someone somewhere back then could do that, the cat would eventually get out of the bag and there'd be a lot more of it happening in the world.
 
If there were genome altered pilots in 1947, seems to me their genomes must have been altered decades before that. If the average age of such a personal was, say, 30...or 40...that would likely place their births in the very early 20th century. And that would mean that successful research into genome altering would have been taking place in the late 1800's. Genome altering doesn't just morph a person from normalcy into a freak right away. They would have to be altered in the womb, or the sperm or egg would have to have been altered.There is no evidence of anyone doing that level of gene manipulation in those days anywhere. Watson & Crick didn't even discover the structure of DNA 🧬 until 1952, I believe. You'd think if someone somewhere back then could do that, the cat would eventually get out of the bag and there'd be a lot more of it happening in the world.
somewhat the same but the angel of death in germany tried to alter people, jews by doing nasty experiments on them, most if not all died
this was not about aliens though so it's kinda in the same realm but not really either
 
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