South Carolina schools may teach gun safety and training

[PaintMyHouse]

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

I'm going with you NOT being deliberately obtuse. You obviously can't help it.

I give, you're a total box of rocks. Moving on.

 

[hadit]

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

The stats have been posted in this thread, so I won't bother. Anyone not wedded to NRA dogma like you is free to read them.

So post a link to the relevant post. It should be easy to find.

Find it yourself you lazy asshole.

I do remember reading a bunch of stats you posted that didn't show any significant decline in overall suicides and you yammering dogmatically on about how important it was that the number of suicides by gun went down. That was when you lost that particular argument.

 

[hadit]

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

I'm going with you NOT being deliberately obtuse. You obviously can't help it.

I give, you're a total box of rocks. Moving on.

It's really sad when a total box of rocks destroys you in an argument.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

Yes, better to have 60-70 dead kids every year because you don't like the Eddie Eagle gun safety program......again....no dead kids, no gun control pushes.......

That is not what they are teaching. Look it up. That is see a gun don't touch and run (for an adult). I'm perfectly okay with that and it takes all of 20 minutes. That is not what the classes will teach.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

The stats have been posted in this thread, so I won't bother. Anyone not wedded to NRA dogma like you is free to read them.

So post a link to the relevant post. It should be easy to find.

Find it yourself you lazy asshole.

I do remember reading a bunch of stats you posted that didn't show any significant decline in overall suicides and you yammering dogmatically on about how important it was that the number of suicides by gun went down. That was when you lost that particular argument.

I didn't lose anything. Gun suicides went down and all suicides went down, something that fucks you big time.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

I'm going with you NOT being deliberately obtuse. You obviously can't help it.

I give, you're a total box of rocks. Moving on.

It's really sad when a total box of rocks destroys you in an argument.

You are just fucking dumb and I have better things to do. Anyone with any sense at all can see you have no clue and I can't even begin to help you out here.

 

[hadit]

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

The stats have been posted in this thread, so I won't bother. Anyone not wedded to NRA dogma like you is free to read them.

So post a link to the relevant post. It should be easy to find.

Find it yourself you lazy asshole.

I do remember reading a bunch of stats you posted that didn't show any significant decline in overall suicides and you yammering dogmatically on about how important it was that the number of suicides by gun went down. That was when you lost that particular argument.

I didn't lose anything. Gun suicides went down and all suicides went down, something that fucks you big time.

Your problem is that you apparently forgot you posted stats in a different thread, not in this one, like you claimed. Now go and find them, that is your homework assignment.

 

[hadit]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

I'm going with you NOT being deliberately obtuse. You obviously can't help it.

I give, you're a total box of rocks. Moving on.

It's really sad when a total box of rocks destroys you in an argument.

You are just fucking dumb and I have better things to do. Anyone with any sense at all can see you have no clue and I can't even begin to help you out here.

Apparently, no one has told you that juvenile insults make you look LESS intelligent, not more.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

I'm going with you NOT being deliberately obtuse. You obviously can't help it.

I give, you're a total box of rocks. Moving on.

It's really sad when a total box of rocks destroys you in an argument.

You are just fucking dumb and I have better things to do. Anyone with any sense at all can see you have no clue and I can't even begin to help you out here.

Apparently, no one has told you that juvenile insults make you look LESS intelligent, not more.

I don't care what it makes me look like, unlike you I can think. The NRA is a pro-gun group so sex-ed classes would be taught by a pro-sex group.

 

[hadit]

I'm going with you NOT being deliberately obtuse. You obviously can't help it.

I give, you're a total box of rocks. Moving on.

It's really sad when a total box of rocks destroys you in an argument.

You are just fucking dumb and I have better things to do. Anyone with any sense at all can see you have no clue and I can't even begin to help you out here.

Apparently, no one has told you that juvenile insults make you look LESS intelligent, not more.

I don't care what it makes me look like, unlike you I can think. The NRA is a pro-gun group so sex-ed classes would be taught by a pro-sex group.

Irrelevant.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I give, you're a total box of rocks. Moving on.

It's really sad when a total box of rocks destroys you in an argument.

You are just fucking dumb and I have better things to do. Anyone with any sense at all can see you have no clue and I can't even begin to help you out here.

Apparently, no one has told you that juvenile insults make you look LESS intelligent, not more.

I don't care what it makes me look like, unlike you I can think. The NRA is a pro-gun group so sex-ed classes would be taught by a pro-sex group.

Irrelevant.

No, it isn't you damn fool, not in the slightest. The NRA doesn't want to teach Gun Safety, they do it to promote Gun Ownership, and fight Gun Control laws, and now they want to do that in a public school. That is the same as Playboy promoting Safe Sex to sell porn.

 

[WinterBorn]

Guns don't fire themselves. You MUST know that you are ridiculous. You must, or you are really very ignorant person.

I've already posted links to guns that fire themselves, two of them so far, and I quit looking after that.

Yes, well, others pointed out the flaws in your conclusions already.

They thought they did, only there weren't any. With guns accidental shootings and deaths will always occur, always. It's the nature of the beast.

I have pointed out the flaw, and it still stands. The basic safety rules I linked proved it. The safety rules say don't have a round in the chamber until you are ready to shoot.

Your magical world where guns can be safely dealt with at all times and in all places is noted, however I live in the real where where being around guns means people will be shot and even killed.

That is a nice dodge. But you claimed that there weren't any flaws in your conclusions concerning what would happen if everyone followed the safety rules. That is a lie.

 

[WinterBorn]

So...are you a strict vegetarian or just a raging hypocrite?

Nope, I get meat from the store like a normal person who doesn't think that killing an animal you aren't going equals a sport.

So?

So, if you don't eat what you kill then you have no reason to kill it. That's just you and your beer buddies playing with deadly toys because you love them.

Do you think many hunters just leave the carcass in the woods?

I don't care what they do with the meat they shot, they aren't eating themselves in most cases and are hunting for sport, not food, and there's need for that.

Absolute horseshit. If the meat if being eaten, whether by the hunter or someone else, the meat is being eaten. And the population control and revenue for the various state conservation departments is still there.

Your sources of meat do not eat all that they kill, obviously. They kill for a source of money.

 

[WinterBorn]

No, you haven't...stop listening to those voices in your head!

Is this related to the dummy who thinks that if you follow all the safety rules with guns there will be no accidents, which is utter nonsense? Yeah, I thought so.

If all safety rules are followed, there will be no accidental shootings. It really is that simple.

Yeah, it doesn't work that way, especially when we have guns that fire themselves.

Repeating that does not change the fact that a round was in the chamber.

Yeah, imagine a cop doing such a thing? Who would have thought.

No more relevant than your other post. Most cops never fire their weapon in the line of duty. The need for a quick draw & fire is dubious at best.

 

[WinterBorn]

It's really sad when a total box of rocks destroys you in an argument.

You are just fucking dumb and I have better things to do. Anyone with any sense at all can see you have no clue and I can't even begin to help you out here.

Apparently, no one has told you that juvenile insults make you look LESS intelligent, not more.

I don't care what it makes me look like, unlike you I can think. The NRA is a pro-gun group so sex-ed classes would be taught by a pro-sex group.

Irrelevant.

No, it isn't you damn fool, not in the slightest. The NRA doesn't want to teach Gun Safety, they do it to promote Gun Ownership, and fight Gun Control laws, and now they want to do that in a public school. That is the same as Playboy promoting Safe Sex to sell porn.

The NRA has taught more gun safety classes than anyone but the military. That is what they did more of than anything over most of their existence.

 

[WinterBorn]

I would much rather a young person be able to render a found firearm harmless instead of fleeing in terror, leaving it for the next kid to find and play with.

How about run and tell an adult? What a plan eh, and no child gets hurt.

Isn't this high school kids we are talking about? High school kids will be offered these classes, not small children.

Doesn't matter a damn. Not child needs to fire a gun because no child needs to kill anything.

Are you saying you prefer the scenario in which a found gun is left for another child to pick up and play with? Because it sounds an awful lot like you are.

Let's reverse it, your child finds a a gun, in God knows what condition, and you want them to pick it up eh? I want the children to have nothing to do with the gun, find an adult, or better yet a soldier or a cop who should be trained in weapons, and report the gun ASAP letting the adults deal with it. I don't not want them playing "Daddy taught me about guns" alone or with the other children, and neither should you. That lacks all fucking common sense so you will undoubtedly disagree.

Your examples are about small children finding guns. The class will be taught to high school students. Your strawman is noted and dismissed.

 

[WinterBorn]

Take away the guns and those suicides will still happen. We've been over this before.

And you lost, since the number went down, significantly.

No, your downfall was insisting that the important number was the number of suicides BY GUN. That's not significant at all. The total number of suicides stays about the same.

No, it doesn't. That's a problem for you so just deal with it.

Post the stats. Show us total suicides in countries that banned guns, before and after. Make sure to include at least 5 years before and after the event, and include multiple countries so you're not talking about one data point.

The stats have been posted in this thread, so I won't bother. Anyone not wedded to NRA dogma like you is free to read them.

Funny how you demand I answer a single question over and over, but you refuse to do the same thing.

 

[WinterBorn]

1. Banning them won't eliminate them being found.
2. If the adult has also be indocrinated in the fool's paradise and doesn't have a clue how to render a gun harmless, it leaves the gun dangerous. That's just stupid.

Again, what do you want, a SWAT team deployment every time a gun is found? Totally unnecessary.

As I said, and I won't say it again, if that's what it takes since that is the kind of thing we pay them for. Just because the neighbors might be able to put a house on fire out with their garden hoses doesn't mean you don't call the fire department in.

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

If you find one, get on that amazing piece of technology all the kids have now and call the cops or someone you know is trained in firearms. Give it up, your point is beyond useless to the debate because any sane person would not want their child to start handling a gun they found, period.

High school aged kids are perfectly capable of rendering a gun harmless. In your case, it's probably best to run away screaming. You would hurt yourself.

No, they are not, especially a gun they have no clue about and just found somewhere. We pay professionals to deal with that, not your fucking kid.

Are there a lot of strange guns found lying around outside where you live?

 

[WinterBorn]

You just equated abortion with racism and Planned Parenthood with the KKK. Good job, dumbass.

I believe in celibrating all the amendments. Comprehensive sex-ed belongs in school, so does gun saftey, along with driver's ed and first aid. If libtards don't want the NRA to head it up then they need to make their own foundation and compete.

I bet if this school wanted to offer an elective on falconry we'd never hear about it eventhough a 14 y/o handeling a wild raptor is more dangerous than a firearm. The left needs serious psychiatric help with their hopolophobia.

You don't let the proponents teach. Playboy wants you you to buy porn, the NRA guns.

Using that standard, sex ed should be taught by groups that believe sex is ONLY for procreation, no other purpose.

No, the NRA wants you to have guns so it would be taught by people who want you to have sex. Fucking think next time.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I hope so, because what you're saying is really stupid.

No dummy, learn to fucking think! Do you think the NRA wants to teach "Gun Safety" because they want you to see how dangerous a gun can be and then never touch one again? Fuck you're a dumbss. They want to like guns, like they do, and then go buy and think just like they do. It has nothing to do with gun safety and everything to do with promoting gun ownership and defeating gun control laws. That's all the NRA stands for, and all it every has or will.

Another post that is simply a lie. I have my disagreements with the NRA, but your claim is a lie.

 

[WinterBorn]

If you see a small fire close to your neighbor's house and put it out with a garden hose, you don't need to call the fire department and you save the house. OTOH, if you see a small fire and run away screaming, you most likely condemn the house to destruction. Same with guns. If you find one, you should turn it in to the police because they would see if it was linked to a crime, but running away terrified just leaves it for a kid to find and get hurt.

If you find one, get on that amazing piece of technology all the kids have now and call the cops or someone you know is trained in firearms. Give it up, your point is beyond useless to the debate because any sane person would not want their child to start handling a gun they found, period.

High school aged kids are perfectly capable of rendering a gun harmless. In your case, it's probably best to run away screaming. You would hurt yourself.

No, they are not, especially a gun they have no clue about and just found somewhere. We pay professionals to deal with that, not your fucking kid.

And the reason they have no clue about the gun found is.....

<waits for the idiots to figure it out>

They have no clue about the fucking gun because it isn't their fucking gun! You as dumb as they fucking get.

And this gun is unlike any gun every seen anywhere?? lmao Your arguments have are becoming more and more ridiculous. Knowing the safety rules would allow the young adult or adult to remove this hazard from where it is to a safer place.