South Africa - breaking news !!!

I sense he is always playing an angle and a deal. Start by making an impossible claim or offer and leverage the other person to blink. It seems to be a show of strong Arming (note, I'm not taking a position either on this specific issue or the propriety of "biggest stick" diplomacy in general). President Trump is often (for both good and bad) a blunt object. When he plays the finesse game I feel he does so with a heavy hand.
 
The South African communists are a bunch of fools.



the land was taken and now apparently given back from the people who had no clue or any money to do anything with it thus it sat growing weeds and the people went hungry.
now they are waking up to the fact they need those with money and education and are actually willing to pay them back the money, wow never thought I'd see that in Rhodesia but good for them
Others might notice this when they start exporting and want in on this

it takes money to make money
 
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It's pretty obvious. The government was confiscating land taken during apartheid. Trump is on the wrong side of this issue. He would be wise to stop listening to Musk and Theil.
You mean farms that the owners converted from trackless wilderness into productive farms over a couple of centuries? That’s the very thing that you complain that blacks were restricted from doing during the various land rushes on the Great Plains. You could at least try to seem consistent. Of course once the ANC government portions those farms out to its supporters, South Africa will be starving like Zimbabwe ( which used to be Rhodesia the bread basket of sub-Saharan Africa but now can’t even feed itself).
 
You mean farms that the owners converted from trackless wilderness into productive farms over a couple of centuries? That’s the very thing that you complain that blacks were restricted from doing during the various land rushes on the Great Plains. You could at least try to seem consistent. Of course once the ANC government portions those farms out to its supporters, South Africa will be starving like Zimbabwe ( which used to be Rhodesia the bread basket of sub-Saharan Africa but now can’t even feed itself).

He doesn't understand.
 
When the Afrikaans settled South Africa there were no people there at all. They brought the first black Bantus with them.

Blacks will do to South Africa what they did to Zimbabwe resulting in the same famines.
 
The sad chapter of South Africa was the british trying to steal what the dutch built and with a larger force actually won but the boer war forced many dutch women and children into concentration camps where they were raped and starved like in nazi Germany

horrible the English could be the cruel to one of their own, then again it's going on now with russia/ukraine and nazi germany twice
 
I sense he is always playing an angle and a deal. Start by making an impossible claim or offer and leverage the other person to blink. It seems to be a show of strong Arming (note, I'm not taking a position either on this specific issue or the propriety of "biggest stick" diplomacy in general). President Trump is often (for both good and bad) a blunt object. When he plays the finesse game I feel he does so with a heavy hand.
That seems to be his MO. Threaten with something excessive and thereby intimidating the other side into making lesser concessions which were his real objective in the first place.
 
It is a unhold story that about 5,000 white fsmilies had family farms and properties to the north that they had maintained for generations. Excellent source of employment, aAfter all the good that SA accomplished the next government after the Botha/Mandela times turned a blind eye to renegades raiding those farms snd throwing the owners out
The told story is about how those white families got that land. Land that was already inhabited. Land they stole and held on to because the Apartheid government didn't allow the blacks who had it to own it. The Botha government was no good and Mandela was working on returning the land. So whites like you need to shut up and stop pretending these Afrikaners on Boers are innocent people. Trump needs to stay out of this.
 
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We'll see who blinks first. Certainly glad you're not in government. The US has been on the losing end of diplomacy for decades and it is time for us to reclaim our rightful positions.
None of that is true and Trump is going to cost us what position we have.
 
White people have to live behind barred windows and barbed wire in South Africa. They might as well be in prison.
The same way the imprisoned blacks in that country for about 100 years?

You have heard of apartheid, haven't you?

Or do you think that was a good thing?
 
the land was taken and now apparently given back from the people who had no clue or any money to do anything with it thus it sat growing weeds and the people went hungry.
now they are waking up to the fact they need those with money and education and are actually willing to pay them back the money, wow never thought I'd see that in Rhodesia but good for them
Others might notice this when they start exporting and want in on this

it takes money to make money
Bulllshit. People had been farming there for centuries until whites showed up.
 
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