Something's gotta give: Ford CEO's warning on AI

[SassyIrishLass]

What I've seen in AI it needs a lot of work. Those videos are ridiculously sad and fake

 

[Rigby5]

UnEducated? You think people who attend trade schools and community colleges are uneducated? These people are acquiring marketable skills sets while the supposed “smart ones” are spending $250k and major in a bullshit concentration for which there is no market.

Wrong in my opinion.
Those who teach are always 10 to 30 years out of date.
So they can't teach actual "marketable skills" because the trades change too quickly.
So the colleges that teach generic knowledge of how to learn, research, think, reason, communicate, read, etc., are much better.

 

[Rigby5]

Job replacement is the least of our worries, from AI.

Yes I agree.
AI is wrong at least 10% of the time, and will result in some disasters.

 

[Rigby5]

That's why the Dems want more illegals here.

Which seems like a good idea if we want to pay down the National Debt, stop Social Security default, compete with China, etc.?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Which seems like a good idea if we want to pay down the National Debt, stop Social Security default, compete with China, etc.?

Tried that and it failed bigly. Now stuck with having to pay for millions of impoverished illegals.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

AI requires more college degrees, not less.
To run a milling machine or lath now you need to program it.
Nurses aids now need to be able to access databases and spreadsheets.
AI does not talk to you, but produces files of data you have to learn how to access, decode, search for, etc.

There is almost no way to get a job any more without a college degree.
While it is true tech colleges could be more specific, to be able to do that, 18 year olds would have to be able to pick exactly what job they wanted for the rest of their lives.
And that is never going to happen.
Regular colleges are more general and therefore gives a wider range of skills.

Plumbing, welding and carpentry don’t require college degrees. They all pay well. My snooty, pretentious college town has two wealthy plumbers living here.

 

[Rigby5]

What I've seen in AI it needs a lot of work. Those videos are ridiculously sad and fake

The videos are not the main push of AI.
The videos are really created by humans who use different tools to blend, overlay, constrain, etc. images.
Its not really AI making the artistic choices, and the AI just does the tedious pixel by pixel computations.

The problem with AI is more like when it is used to make a medical diagnosis based on what was the most common cause of something.
That is not really a good idea.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Plumbing, welding and carpentry don’t require college degrees. They all pay well. My snooty, pretentious college town has two wealthy plumbers living here.

Lol Rugby calls a plumber and asks to send one with a college degree

 

[Rigby5]

Tried that and it failed bigly. Now stuck with having to pay for millions of impoverished illegals.

I disagree.
I think you have been had.
Illegals don't cost anything, and instead pay taxes and social security they can't make claims against.
Illegals don't get welfare except the Emergency Room.

 

[Rigby5]

Plumbing, welding and carpentry don’t require college degrees. They all pay well. My snooty, pretentious college town has two wealthy plumbers living here.

I do all my own plumbing, welding, carpentry, auto mechanics, roofing, HVAC, etc. and I could not have done any of it without first getting a degree in physics.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I do all my own plumbing, welding, carpentry, auto mechanics, roofing, HVAC, etc. and I could not have done any of it without first getting a degree in physics.

Nobody believes that

 

[Rigby5]

Lol Rugby calls a plumber and asks to send one with a college degree

That is the point.
Because I have a degree in physics, I can do all my own plumbing.
The only time I have to call a plumber is when I do something that requires a permit in a rental, and I have to have a plumber inspect it.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

AI requires more college degrees, not less.
To run a milling machine or lath now you need to program it.
Nurses aids now need to be able to access databases and spreadsheets.
AI does not talk to you, but produces files of data you have to learn how to access, decode, search for, etc.

There is almost no way to get a job any more without a college degree.
While it is true tech colleges could be more specific, to be able to do that, 18 year olds would have to be able to pick exactly what job they wanted for the rest of their lives.
And that is never going to happen.
Regular colleges are more general and therefore gives a wider range of skills.

It's not happening that way my friend. There will be LESS people going to college in the future, not more. Half the country can barely run their own lives and doesn't have the smarts for college. The number of colleges is going to shrink, the number of college students is going to shrink, the number of professors is going to shrink, and so is the amount of debt that is owed for college. The gravy train will end.

 

[Rigby5]

Nobody believes that

That is the whole point of universities.
They do not teach anything rote.
They teach instead general principles of science, thinking, deduction, research, how to problem solve, etc.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That is the point.
Because I have a degree in physics, I can do all my own plumbing.
The only time I have to call a plumber is when I do something that requires a permit in a rental, and I have to have a plumber inspect it.

Dude, just stop, plumbing is more than physics. You show up at our house claiming you know physics for a plumbing issue you're going away

 

[Rigby5]

It's not happening that way my friend. There will be LESS people going to college in the future, not more. Half the country can barely run their own lives and doesn't have the smarts for college. The number of colleges is going to shrink, the number of college students is going to shrink, the number of professors is going to shrink, and so is the amount of debt that is owed for college. The gravy train will end.

Everyone is smart enough for college because everyone gains from learning how to think more logically.
Some people just pick it up faster than others.

Again, the more technology we have, the faster methodologies will change, and the more people will need generic college educations.

Think about how we use to have mindless assembly line jobs like injection molding, that now require the operator to program the CNC machine.
(Computer Numerical Control)

 

[Rigby5]

Dude, just stop, plumbing is more than physics. You show up at our house claiming you know physics for a plumbing issue you're going away

Wrong.
Physics is what allows you to understand everything.
Its how you know what tool will fit and have the right leverage.
Its how you know what slope the drain has to be.
Its how you know what the roof vent is for.
Its how you know what P-traps are for and how to use them.
If I did not know physics, then when a toilet starts to not flush well, I would assume it was a blockage, when in reality it is always a wax seal leak that breaks the suction instead.

I am not saying everyone has to get a degree in physics, but it helps and is much more useful than is being admitted.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Everyone is smart enough for college because everyone gains from learning how to think more logically.
Some people just pick it up faster than others.

Again, the more technology we have, the faster methodologies will change, and the more people will need generic college educations.

Think about how we use to have mindless assembly line jobs like injection molding, that now require the operator to program the CNC machine.
(Computer Numerical Control)

So how are you affiliated with the educational system? Professor? Teacher? Administrator?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I do all my own plumbing, welding, carpentry, auto mechanics, roofing, HVAC, etc. and I could not have done any of it without first getting a degree in physics.

Then you must have issues. The welders, plumbers and carpenters I know have little or no college education.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Wrong.
Physics is what allows you to understand everything.
Its how you know what tool will fit and have the right leverage.
Its how you know what slope the drain has to be.
Its how you know what the roof vent is for.
Its how you know what P-traps are for and how to use them.
If I did not know physics, then when a toilet starts to not flush well, I would assume it was a blockage, when in reality it is always a wax seal leak that breaks the suction instead.

Well go fix toilets, crawl around in crawl spaces and be a physicist ya damn dumbass