Someone needs to remind trump of the age old political adage.............

[jbrownson0831]

Trump knows there’s no legitimate, legal reason for the illegal detentions and deportations.

Deporting illegals is legal facediaper. Illegal means they shouldn't be here in the first place.
Did you take Civics?

 

[Dekster]

........."the cover up is always worse than the crime." In this case I'm not sure it holds but it certainly isn't helping.

Justice Dept. Refuses to Give Judge Flight Data, Citing State Secrets​

The Trump administration told a federal judge on Monday night that it would not disclose any further information about two flights of Venezuelan migrants it sent to El Salvador this month despite a court order to turn back the planes, declaring that doing so would jeopardize state secrets.

The move sharply escalated the growing conflict between the administration and the judge — and, by extension, the federal judiciary — in a case that legal experts fear is precipitating a constitutional crisis.

For almost 10 days, the judge, James E. Boasberg of the Federal District Court in Washington, has been trying to get the Trump administration to give him information about the two flights in an effort to determine whether officials allowed them to continue on to El Salvador in violation of his order to have them return to the United States.

But in a patent act of defiance, the Justice Department told Judge Boasberg that giving him any further information about the flights — which the Trump administration maintains were carrying members of a Venezuelan street gang called Tren de Aragua — would “undermine or impede future counterterrorism operations.”

Justice Dept. Refuses to Give Judge Flight Data, Citing State Secrets

The extraordinary move by the Justice Department was an escalation of its conflict with the judge in the case and, by extension, the federal judiciary.

www.nytimes.com

No matter what you think about the deportation of the alleged, not proven, gang members to a notoriously awful El Salvadorian prison I think we can all agree claiming it “undermine(s) or impede(s) future counterterrorism operations” is total BS. It's the kind of transparently duplicitous excuse you give when turning over the info being requested is incriminating.

We are a little more than 2 months in and trump is already flirting with an impeachable offense. However, these are the days when checks and balances on the power of the executive branch have been neutered. Repubs in the House aren't even going to investigate the admin's actions let alone impeach trump. Who is in the process of trying to strip the judiciary of the power to hold him accountable for illegal acts. Interesting times.

Well technically the judge hint hinted that they had to claim state secrets or provide the info so they took the suggestion.

 

[BluesLegend]

........."the cover up is always worse than the crime."

Trump isn't covering up anything, he's openly flipping this Dem shill judge the bird while laughing.

 

[Billiejeens]

The Trump presidency is going better than even I imagined, and my imagination is active.

I mean here you all are, dancing around these CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS not getting "due process", which you think is such a win. The rest of us are like, wait wait....people can break into our nation, commit horrid crimes, and they DESERVE A COURT HEARING?!?!

Trump blew up your entire party and now is burning it to the ground.

We love to see it

Speaking of that party -

• The party has its lowest favorability ever.
• No popular national leader to help improve it.
• Insufficient numbers to stop most legislation in Congress.
• A durable minority on the Supreme Court.
• Dwindling influence over the media ecosystem, with right-leaning podcasters and social media accounts ascendant.
• Young voters are growing dramatically more conservative.
• A bad 2026 map for Senate races.
• Democratic Senate retirements could make it harder for the party to flip the House, with members tempted by statewide races.
• There are only three House Republicans in districts former Vice President Harris won in 2024, a dim sign for a Democratic surge. There were 23 eight years ago in seats Hillary Clinton won.

 

[Billiejeens]

The democrat Party has decided that standing up for the imaginary "rights" of Illegal Alien Invader criminals is the hill they want to die on

Exciting!

 

[Billiejeens]

If the stuff going on now had happened during trump 1.0 Pelosi would be huddling with fellow Dems trying to decide which offence to impeach trump for. But open defiance of a federal judge would be the likely leader.

Good that the Democrat Party was so thoroughly rejected, yes?

 

[Billiejeens]

As I said in another thread: go out and sell this to average Americans, not politico heads. Explain all this to them and then watch their eyes glaze over. Then say "Yeah but no more trans surgeries in the military" and see what happens.

PLEASE harp on this for the next year. PLEASE

The Democratic Party is obsessed with Donald Trump and Elon Musk right now. They want to slit the throats of the Senate Democratic leadership. The leader of House Democrats, Hakeem Jeffries, looks like a draft bust, incapable of doing anything but making cringy videos where he’s all alone outside the Capitol Building and repeating shoddy DNC talking points. This party is so lost and preoccupied with niche matters that they stare at Armageddon and don’t even know it

 

[Independent thinker]

........."the cover up is always worse than the crime." In this case I'm not sure it holds but it certainly isn't helping.

Justice Dept. Refuses to Give Judge Flight Data, Citing State Secrets​

The Trump administration told a federal judge on Monday night that it would not disclose any further information about two flights of Venezuelan migrants it sent to El Salvador this month despite a court order to turn back the planes, declaring that doing so would jeopardize state secrets.

The move sharply escalated the growing conflict between the administration and the judge — and, by extension, the federal judiciary — in a case that legal experts fear is precipitating a constitutional crisis.

For almost 10 days, the judge, James E. Boasberg of the Federal District Court in Washington, has been trying to get the Trump administration to give him information about the two flights in an effort to determine whether officials allowed them to continue on to El Salvador in violation of his order to have them return to the United States.

But in a patent act of defiance, the Justice Department told Judge Boasberg that giving him any further information about the flights — which the Trump administration maintains were carrying members of a Venezuelan street gang called Tren de Aragua — would “undermine or impede future counterterrorism operations.”

Justice Dept. Refuses to Give Judge Flight Data, Citing State Secrets

The extraordinary move by the Justice Department was an escalation of its conflict with the judge in the case and, by extension, the federal judiciary.

www.nytimes.com

No matter what you think about the deportation of the alleged, not proven, gang members to a notoriously awful El Salvadorian prison I think we can all agree claiming it “undermine(s) or impede(s) future counterterrorism operations” is total BS. It's the kind of transparently duplicitous excuse you give when turning over the info being requested is incriminating.

We are a little more than 2 months in and trump is already flirting with an impeachable offense. However, these are the days when checks and balances on the power of the executive branch have been neutered. Repubs in the House aren't even going to investigate the admin's actions let alone impeach trump. Who is in the process of trying to strip the judiciary of the power to hold him accountable for illegal acts. Interesting times.

Someone needs to remind bergy that Trump won.

 

[berg80]

Well technically the judge hint hinted that they had to claim state secrets or provide the info so they took the suggestion.

“We are currently clean on OPSEC,” Mr. Hegseth wrote, using the military acronym for operational security.

Several Defense Department officials expressed shock that Mr. Hegseth had put American war plans into a commercial chat group. They said that having this type of conversation in a Signal chat group itself could be a violation of the Espionage Act, a law covering the handling of sensitive information.

Pete is so dumb, inexperienced, and unqualified he actually thought the communications were secure.

 

[Redfish]

........."the cover up is always worse than the crime." In this case I'm not sure it holds but it certainly isn't helping.

Justice Dept. Refuses to Give Judge Flight Data, Citing State Secrets​

The Trump administration told a federal judge on Monday night that it would not disclose any further information about two flights of Venezuelan migrants it sent to El Salvador this month despite a court order to turn back the planes, declaring that doing so would jeopardize state secrets.

The move sharply escalated the growing conflict between the administration and the judge — and, by extension, the federal judiciary — in a case that legal experts fear is precipitating a constitutional crisis.

For almost 10 days, the judge, James E. Boasberg of the Federal District Court in Washington, has been trying to get the Trump administration to give him information about the two flights in an effort to determine whether officials allowed them to continue on to El Salvador in violation of his order to have them return to the United States.

But in a patent act of defiance, the Justice Department told Judge Boasberg that giving him any further information about the flights — which the Trump administration maintains were carrying members of a Venezuelan street gang called Tren de Aragua — would “undermine or impede future counterterrorism operations.”

Justice Dept. Refuses to Give Judge Flight Data, Citing State Secrets

The extraordinary move by the Justice Department was an escalation of its conflict with the judge in the case and, by extension, the federal judiciary.

www.nytimes.com

No matter what you think about the deportation of the alleged, not proven, gang members to a notoriously awful El Salvadorian prison I think we can all agree claiming it “undermine(s) or impede(s) future counterterrorism operations” is total BS. It's the kind of transparently duplicitous excuse you give when turning over the info being requested is incriminating.

We are a little more than 2 months in and trump is already flirting with an impeachable offense. However, these are the days when checks and balances on the power of the executive branch have been neutered. Repubs in the House aren't even going to investigate the admin's actions let alone impeach trump. Who is in the process of trying to strip the judiciary of the power to hold him accountable for illegal acts. Interesting times.

no single judge has the authority to block a presidential act. this judge violated the constitution and his oath of office

 

[berg80]

Someone needs to remind bergy that Trump won.

He won so...........it's okay when the people he named to run the defense of our nation turn out to be the gang that couldn't shoot straight? He won so no amount of dangerous incompetence is a concern? Are you mad?

 

[berg80]

no single judge has the authority to block a presidential act.

An illegal presidential act. And yes he does.

 

[Redfish]

“We are currently clean on OPSEC,” Mr. Hegseth wrote, using the military acronym for operational security.

Several Defense Department officials expressed shock that Mr. Hegseth had put American war plans into a commercial chat group. They said that having this type of conversation in a Signal chat group itself could be a violation of the Espionage Act, a law covering the handling of sensitive information.

Pete is so dumb, inexperienced, and unqualified he actually thought the communications were secure.

what is your evaluation of HIllary Clinton hiding then destroying classified information? Was she exempt from the laws you want to apply to Hegseth?

 

[Redfish]

An illegal presidential act. And yes he does.

wrong, and nothing done was in violation of the constitution or any statute. if you think it was cite the words from the constitution or statute.

 

[Independent thinker]

He won so...........it's okay when the people he named to run the defense of our nation turn out to be the gang that couldn't shoot straight? He won so no amount of dangerous incompetence is a concern? Are you mad?

LOL. Your bias shows. Have you given up that Trump is Hitler and will take democracy away? Is this the best you've got now? Every administration has done some stupid stuff.

 

[Redfish]

He won so...........it's okay when the people he named to run the defense of our nation turn out to be the gang that couldn't shoot straight? He won so no amount of dangerous incompetence is a concern? Are you mad?

so do you really think our military was better under absent Austin and with Trannies in charge?

 

[berg80]

this judge violated the constitution and his oath of office

You are lost in the haze of right wing propaganda. In what way did he violate his oath?

 

[berg80]

LOL. Your bias shows. Have you given up that Trump is Hitler and will take democracy away? Is this the best you've got now? Every administration has done some stupid stuff.

I have never said trump is Hitler. I have said he wants to rule as an autocrat, cuz everything he's doing shows he does. Yes, all admin's make mistakes. Not as egregious as this one but they do. Now the issue is how the admin responds. Do they hold themselves accountable to the American people for making this mistake or pretend it was no big deal?

 

[berg80]

so do you really think our military was better under absent Austin

I don't recall Austin discussing secret military operations by way of an unsecure means of communication. Mistakenly including a journalist.

Revealing operational war plans before planned strikes could also put American troops directly into harm’s way, the officials said. And former F.B.I. officials who worked on leak cases described this as a devastating breach of national security. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive national security matter.

Former national security officials said that if personal cellphones were used in the group chat, the behavior would be even more egregious because of ongoing Chinese hacking efforts.

 

[Rogue AI]

I don't recall Austin discussing secret military operations by way of an unsecure means of communication. Mistakenly including a journalist.

Revealing operational war plans before planned strikes could also put American troops directly into harm’s way, the officials said. And former F.B.I. officials who worked on leak cases described this as a devastating breach of national security. They spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive national security matter.

Former national security officials said that if personal cellphones were used in the group chat, the behavior would be even more egregious because of ongoing Chinese hacking efforts.

Austin much preferred being AWOL in hospitals. Leaving who knows who to do his job for him.

Anyway, I call BS on this. The Houthis are not a national security threat. Just more liberal hypocrisy and drama queen whining. This is literally nothing compared to Hillary.