Some Israel supporters are turning into annoying complainers - “antisemitism”

[Red Front]

About 6% of the land was purchased by these Zionist Jewish organizations, like the "Palestine Jewish Colonization Association
About 6% more than the Arabs purchased.

There were Palestinians who owned land as individuals, together as families, as collectives working the land..etc.
How much? Link?

According to international law, the Zionist state of Israhell is occupying Palestinian territory. The West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.
It wasn't Palestinian territory when Egypt held Gaza or when Jordan held Samaria, JUDEA and East Jerusalem.
That depends. You're still an American if the US loses the war, aren't you?

Yes, they're still Arabs who don't own any land.

About 6% more than the Arabs purchased.

Prove it. You're making ridiculous claims and like I pointed out in my last post to your Zionist drivel, you're not capable of delegitimizing a people's roots or connection to the Holy Land based on some modern, capitalist metric of property or real estate ownership. You're just a deluded neo-colonialist.

How much? Link?

I already provided links. Official UN and British documents.

It wasn't Palestinian territory when Egypt held Gaza or when Jordan held Samaria, JUDEA and East Jerusalem.

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  "It wasn't Palestinian territory when Egypt held Gaza or when Jordan held Samaria, JUDEA, and East Jerusalem."
  
  • After the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, the armistice lines left the West Bank under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip under Egyptian control. While it's true that Egypt and Jordan administered these territories, the local Palestinian populations in these areas still identified as Palestinians. In 1950, Jordan annexed the West Bank, but this was not widely recognized internationally. Notably, Palestinians in the West Bank became Jordanian citizens until the disengagement in 1988. The Egyptian control of Gaza did not result in annexation, and Gazans were not granted Egyptian citizenship. None of this justifies the Zionist apartheid state, much less strips Palestinians from being the natives of the land.
• "Arabs owned no land or their homes, they were just renters."
  
  • This is not accurate. During the Ottoman and British periods, land ownership records clearly indicate that Arab Palestinians owned a significant majority of the land in what became Mandate Palestine. It's also important to note that land ownership in the region was often communal or familial rather than individualistic, which can create confusion when capitalist shitheads like Todd, analyze records from a modern, Western capitalist perspective.
• "There was no Palestine or Palestinian land before 1948."
  
  • While it's true that there was no independent state called "Palestine" before 1948, the term "Palestine" was used to describe the geographic region for centuries, including under the Ottoman Empire and during the British Mandate. Furthermore, the people living in the region developed a distinct Palestinian identity over time.
• Denial of the Nakba.
  
  • The Nakba, or "catastrophe," refers to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. This is a well-documented historical event with both primary sources (such as testimonies, photographs, and documents) and secondary sources (historical analyses by scholars). To deny it is akin to denying any other well-established historical event, like for example, the Jewish Holocaust.
  • NAKBA:
    
    
    
  • Above is the picture of Imwas, before it was destroyed by the Jewish Zionists. Palestinians lived in that village, and had to leave after it was leveled to the ground:
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• Todd;s claim that Palestinian Arabs "owned nothing" and they were all "renters" in the above village is just stupid.
• "Palestinians didn't have a right to any of the land."
  
  • This is a subjective claim. The Palestinian Arabs, as the majority population of Palestine for centuries, would argue that they had rights to the land both from a historical residence perspective and from land ownership documents from the Ottoman and British periods. When one presents Todd with such documents he flippantly dismisses them, claiming that the actual owners of the properties were Ottoman Turks from Turkey despite the document identifying the owner as a Palestinian Arab. What evidence is there for his claim that the Arab Palestinians owned nothing? Nothing, Todd's imagination.

 

[Red Front]

Pakistan is a country no one really talks about in all this, but if Israel finally goes too far...

There are now voices in Pakistan trying to convince the nation's leaders to go to war with Israel. The Muslims might form a coalition and I wouldn't be surprised if Russia and China fight alongside the Muslims if the US and EU get involved. I believe the shit is going to hit the fan if Netanyahu doesn't lift the siege over Gaza and continues bombing Muslim civilians. Most of the people dying are Muslim women and children. Christians are also dying, but the Muslims are the ones who are going to snap soon and open a can on the Zionists.

 

[USAF 2023]

Islam is a violent religion.

Just tell them you're gay or that Mohammad was a liar.

They’ll beheaded you just like they beheaded infants

 

[Rawley]

It depends on what you mean by "country". Since when do people who live in a territory and have their own culture, for centuries, cease to be a people or to have roots or rights to land, because they didn't fit your arbitrary requirement that demands they must have a modern state or "country"? You're not making any sense.

You're the one that called it a "country" Didn't know whether you knew it was never a country.

 

[Red Front]

They’ll beheaded you just like they beheaded infants

Even the Western media now admits there was no beheading of children. That was nothing but war propaganda.

 

[Red Front]

You're the one that called it a "country" Didn't know whether you knew it was never a country.

Whether the Holy Land has ever been a country or not is irrelevant. The people of that land aren't going to allow people to dispossess them of their homes, and lands and establish a racist apartheid state, without a fight. According to international law, the Palestinians have a right to the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza. The Jewish Israelis continued to expand settlements in the West Bank, and they continued to move into East Jerusalem. So all that is left for the Palestinians is to fight to get all of the land back under their control. One of the holiest sites in Islam is Al Aqsa, along with the Dome Of The Rock. The former temple complex or temple mount. This has been in the hands of Muslims for 1300 years.

 

[Rawley]

Whether the Holy Land has ever been a country or not is irrelevant.

OK, then why did you call it a country, when it has never been a country?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Prove it. You're making ridiculous claims and like I pointed out in my last post to your Zionist drivel, you're not capable of delegitimizing a people's roots or connection to the Holy Land based on some modern, capitalist metric of property or real estate ownership. You're just a deluded neo-colonialist.



I already provided links. Official UN and British documents.

• 
  "It wasn't Palestinian territory when Egypt held Gaza or when Jordan held Samaria, JUDEA, and East Jerusalem."
  
  • After the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, the armistice lines left the West Bank under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip under Egyptian control. While it's true that Egypt and Jordan administered these territories, the local Palestinian populations in these areas still identified as Palestinians. In 1950, Jordan annexed the West Bank, but this was not widely recognized internationally. Notably, Palestinians in the West Bank became Jordanian citizens until the disengagement in 1988. The Egyptian control of Gaza did not result in annexation, and Gazans were not granted Egyptian citizenship. None of this justifies the Zionist apartheid state, much less strips Palestinians from being the natives of the land.
• "Arabs owned no land or their homes, they were just renters."
  
  • This is not accurate. During the Ottoman and British periods, land ownership records clearly indicate that Arab Palestinians owned a significant majority of the land in what became Mandate Palestine. It's also important to note that land ownership in the region was often communal or familial rather than individualistic, which can create confusion when capitalist shitheads like Todd, analyze records from a modern, Western capitalist perspective.
• "There was no Palestine or Palestinian land before 1948."
  
  • While it's true that there was no independent state called "Palestine" before 1948, the term "Palestine" was used to describe the geographic region for centuries, including under the Ottoman Empire and during the British Mandate. Furthermore, the people living in the region developed a distinct Palestinian identity over time.
• Denial of the Nakba.
  
  • The Nakba, or "catastrophe," refers to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. This is a well-documented historical event with both primary sources (such as testimonies, photographs, and documents) and secondary sources (historical analyses by scholars). To deny it is akin to denying any other well-established historical event, like for example, the Jewish Holocaust.
  • NAKBA:
    
    View attachment 848357
  • Above is the picture of Imwas, before it was destroyed by the Jewish Zionists. Palestinians lived in that village, and had to leave after it was leveled to the ground:
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  View attachment 848359
• Todd;s claim that Palestinian Arabs "owned nothing" and they were all "renters" in the above village is just stupid.
• "Palestinians didn't have a right to any of the land."
  
  • This is a subjective claim. The Palestinian Arabs, as the majority population of Palestine for centuries, would argue that they had rights to the land both from a historical residence perspective and from land ownership documents from the Ottoman and British periods. When one presents Todd with such documents he flippantly dismisses them, claiming that the actual owners of the properties were Ottoman Turks from Turkey despite the document identifying the owner as a Palestinian Arab. What evidence is there for his claim that the Arab Palestinians owned nothing? Nothing, Todd's imagination.

Prove it.

Exactly. Prove the Arabs owned the 94% not bought by Jews.

I already provided links. Official UN and British documents.

In which post?

After the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, the armistice lines left the West Bank under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip under Egyptian control. While it's true that Egypt and Jordan administered these territories, the local Palestinian populations in these areas still identified as Palestinians.

They identified as Arabs. Because they were Arabs.

During the Ottoman and British periods, land ownership records clearly indicate that Arab Palestinians owned a significant majority of the land in what became Mandate Palestine.

Show me.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

According to international law, the Palestinians have a right to the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza.

Why do the Palestinians have a right to the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza?

 

[MinTrut]

Prove it. You're making ridiculous claims and like I pointed out in my last post to your Zionist drivel, you're not capable of delegitimizing a people's roots or connection to the Holy Land based on some modern, capitalist metric of property or real estate ownership. You're just a deluded neo-colonialist.



I already provided links. Official UN and British documents.

• 
  "It wasn't Palestinian territory when Egypt held Gaza or when Jordan held Samaria, JUDEA, and East Jerusalem."
  
  • After the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, the armistice lines left the West Bank under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip under Egyptian control. While it's true that Egypt and Jordan administered these territories, the local Palestinian populations in these areas still identified as Palestinians. In 1950, Jordan annexed the West Bank, but this was not widely recognized internationally. Notably, Palestinians in the West Bank became Jordanian citizens until the disengagement in 1988. The Egyptian control of Gaza did not result in annexation, and Gazans were not granted Egyptian citizenship. None of this justifies the Zionist apartheid state, much less strips Palestinians from being the natives of the land.
• "Arabs owned no land or their homes, they were just renters."
  
  • This is not accurate. During the Ottoman and British periods, land ownership records clearly indicate that Arab Palestinians owned a significant majority of the land in what became Mandate Palestine. It's also important to note that land ownership in the region was often communal or familial rather than individualistic, which can create confusion when capitalist shitheads like Todd, analyze records from a modern, Western capitalist perspective.
• "There was no Palestine or Palestinian land before 1948."
  
  • While it's true that there was no independent state called "Palestine" before 1948, the term "Palestine" was used to describe the geographic region for centuries, including under the Ottoman Empire and during the British Mandate. Furthermore, the people living in the region developed a distinct Palestinian identity over time.
• Denial of the Nakba.
  
  • The Nakba, or "catastrophe," refers to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. This is a well-documented historical event with both primary sources (such as testimonies, photographs, and documents) and secondary sources (historical analyses by scholars). To deny it is akin to denying any other well-established historical event, like for example, the Jewish Holocaust.
  • NAKBA:
    
    View attachment 848357
  • Above is the picture of Imwas, before it was destroyed by the Jewish Zionists. Palestinians lived in that village, and had to leave after it was leveled to the ground:
• 
  
  View attachment 848359
• Todd;s claim that Palestinian Arabs "owned nothing" and they were all "renters" in the above village is just stupid.
• "Palestinians didn't have a right to any of the land."
  
  • This is a subjective claim. The Palestinian Arabs, as the majority population of Palestine for centuries, would argue that they had rights to the land both from a historical residence perspective and from land ownership documents from the Ottoman and British periods. When one presents Todd with such documents he flippantly dismisses them, claiming that the actual owners of the properties were Ottoman Turks from Turkey despite the document identifying the owner as a Palestinian Arab. What evidence is there for his claim that the Arab Palestinians owned nothing? Nothing, Todd's imagination.

You should write books/have a blog.

 

[USAF 2023]

Even the Western media now admits there was no beheading of children. That was nothing but war propaganda.

Not so. There were beheadings

 

[Red Front]

OK, then why did you call it a country, when it has never been a country?

If the Zionists have a right to a country, so do the Palestinians, who are the natives of the land.

 

[Rawley]

If the Zionists have a right to a country, so do the Palestinians, who are the natives of the land.

Hamas has denied that. River to the sea. It's in their charter to eliminate the Jews.

 

[Red Front]

Prove it.

Exactly. Prove the Arabs owned the 94% not bought by Jews.

I already provided links. Official UN and British documents.

In which post?

After the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, the armistice lines left the West Bank under Jordanian control and the Gaza Strip under Egyptian control. While it's true that Egypt and Jordan administered these territories, the local Palestinian populations in these areas still identified as Palestinians.

They identified as Arabs. Because they were Arabs.

During the Ottoman and British periods, land ownership records clearly indicate that Arab Palestinians owned a significant majority of the land in what became Mandate Palestine.

Show me.

I already provided links and you just dismiss what it says. Palestinians speak Arabic, and they adopted many Arabic customs, but the true Arabs are from the Arab peninsula. The so-called Arabs of the Levant aren't pure Arabs. The Palestinian Arabs, are a mixture of ancient Israelites, Arameans, Assyrians, Akadians, Moabites, Edomites, Hittites, Phoenicians, Anatolians, Greeks, Romans, Armenians, and of course, also Arabs. Biologically, they're more diverse than the real, pure Arabs of the Arab peninsula. The Palestinian Arabs, according to you didn't own anything, yet the docs I presented state they did.

You're also projecting your modern, Western concept of property ownership and individualism upon these Middle Eastern people, who tend to collectivize more and live in family groups, with everyone living and working together.

 

[toomuchtime_]

If the Zionists have a right to a country, so do the Palestinians, who are the natives of the land.

That's a lie. Some of the people who call themselves Palestinians come from families that have been there since ancient times, but thousands of Egyptians followed the British into Palestine after WWI, and their descendants are also being called Palestinians, and many Saudis also entered Palestine after the British came, at about the same time Jews, arrived, so no one can legitimately claim to be natives.

No one deserves a state. The Jews have a state because they built one, starting way back under the Mandate, but the so-called Palestinians have never built a government on their own or an economy on their own and have been ever since they were invented completely defined by their hostility toward Jews/Israel.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I already provided links and you just dismiss what it says. Palestinians speak Arabic, and they adopted many Arabic customs, but the true Arabs are from the Arab peninsula. The so-called Arabs of the Levant aren't pure Arabs. The Palestinian Arabs, are a mixture of ancient Israelites, Arameans, Assyrians, Akadians, Moabites, Edomites, Hittites, Phoenicians, Anatolians, Greeks, Romans, Armenians, and of course, also Arabs. Biologically, they're more diverse than the real, pure Arabs of the Arab peninsula. The Palestinian Arabs, according to you didn't own anything, yet the docs I presented state they did.

You're also projecting your modern, Western concept of property ownership and individualism upon these Middle Eastern people, who tend to collectivize more and live in family groups, with everyone living and working together.

What post had links showing Arabs owned 94%?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I already provided links and you just dismiss what it says. Palestinians speak Arabic, and they adopted many Arabic customs, but the true Arabs are from the Arab peninsula. The so-called Arabs of the Levant aren't pure Arabs. The Palestinian Arabs, are a mixture of ancient Israelites, Arameans, Assyrians, Akadians, Moabites, Edomites, Hittites, Phoenicians, Anatolians, Greeks, Romans, Armenians, and of course, also Arabs. Biologically, they're more diverse than the real, pure Arabs of the Arab peninsula. The Palestinian Arabs, according to you didn't own anything, yet the docs I presented state they did.

You're also projecting your modern, Western concept of property ownership and individualism upon these Middle Eastern people, who tend to collectivize more and live in family groups, with everyone living and working together.

Looks like they're showing Jewish owned, state owned and saying, by default, the rest is owned by the Arabs.

 

[Red Front]

Hamas has denied that. River to the sea. It's in their charter to eliminate the Jews.

What do you mean by "Hamas has denied that"? Muslims, Christians and Jews have lived together in the holy land for centuries, so you don't know what you're talking about. The Palestinians are at war with the Zionists, not with Jews for being Jewish. Even Jewish activists who go to Gaza, attest to that.

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Dan Cohen is Jewish and he produced the documentary, "KILLING GAZA". He had to go to Gaza to film his documentary and he lived with Hamas. You're just swallowing up all of the Zionist bullshit propaganda. There are many Jewish anti-Zionists, who have lived in Gaza with the Palestinian Arabs. Norman Finkelstein the well-known Jewish anti-Zionist academic, also lived in Gaza and described his Palestinian friends as family. The Palestinians are so forgiving, that they don't see all Jews as their enemies. Zionism, Zionist Jews, are the Jews they hate. Jews are even going to pro-Palestine rallies:

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[Red Front]

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Looks like they're showing Jewish owned, state owned and saying, by defalut, the rest is owned by the Arabs.

Is that your theory? It's Jewish organizations, "public properties" as in the British government and Palestinian authorities, which existed under British mandate, and then what? Only Mexicans perhaps owned the rest of the properties, not Arab Palestinians? Pathetic. How desperate and cynical can you be? You're ridiculous.

 

[USAF 2023]

If the Zionists have a right to a country, so do the Palestinians, who are the natives of the land.

Two questions that are never answered
Why wasn’t there a Palestinian State before 1967
Why did Abbas reject Olmert’s peace plan?