Some Israel supporters are turning into annoying complainers - “antisemitism”

[Red Front]

Calling Ottoman land "Arab land" doesn't make it so.
The Arabs were mostly renters and squatters.
They owned less land than the Jews in 1917.

Beginning in the late 19th century and intensifying in the 20th century, various Jewish organizations started purchasing land in Palestine. The two most prominent were the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association. These organizations aimed to buy land for Jewish settlement.

The Zionist project in Palestine was characterized by a strong emphasis on collective settlement, such as kibbutzim (collective farms) and moshavim (cooperative farming villages). In general, the land was collectively owned, individual Jews and families lived on and worked the land. Most Jewish individuals didn't "own" land or a house either, in the way that you're suggesting. Moreover, when they engaged in their ethnic cleansing war, they simply took whatever they wanted and the Jewish State recognized their ownership of the property.

There were many Palestinians (many families) who owned their homes in villages across the land, including farmland. However, if you want to deny that, that's fine, so what? If they had different living arrangements that didn't fit with our modern concept of "home ownership" or owning land, that doesn't undermine their claim that Palestine is their country, rather than the country of foreign colonizers. To suggest otherwise is quite RICH, especially when most of those Zionist colonizers didn't individually "OWN" the land either. It never fails to amaze me the bullshit Zionists come up with to defend their illegal occupation of Palestine.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Often the same pro Israel people here in America who lie about other peoples views, calling folks antisemitic for criticizing Israeli policy …will also say that “Islam is a violent religion” or “Muslims are a death cult”. Isn’t that interesting. Those people who do that Lose all credibility when they call people anti Semitic…. They’re also some of the most annoying losers on the planet.

And I do believe that in this world might makes right

It’s a fact of life. Might makes right. Israel has all the might over Hamas. But politicians and people in the media will exaggerate about things and hype things up that Jews are in some existential threat, which is humiliating and embarrassing to the strong people of Israel.

The fact of the matter is that most Israelis and Palestinians want to live together, and would marry each other and love each other. This beauty +love certainly can happen, and I think it will eventually with a one state solution. But in response to this, you have pro Israel racists will simply say “that can’t happen Jews will become a minority” as if somehow the Palestinians, which includes Christians ….are evil. And it’s always the same annoying pro Israel people who call other people anti-semitic , are the same people who denigrate Palestinians.

Keyboard warriors will lash out at the people of Israel and Palestine, who want to live together. But God will prevail over them and love and peace will prevail.

Yet another whiney antisemite.

 

[Hossfly]

Do you accept that Jesus performed miracles …ie giving the blind their sight back

I wasn't a witness.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I wasn't a witness.

There’s a part of being a Christian.

Accepting that Jesus was born of miraculous birth to the Virgin Mary

Are you Christian

 

[Rawley]

Beginning in the late 19th century and intensifying in the 20th century, various Jewish organizations started purchasing land in Palestine. The two most prominent were the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association. These organizations aimed to buy land for Jewish settlement.

The Zionist project in Palestine was characterized by a strong emphasis on collective settlement, such as kibbutzim (collective farms) and moshavim (cooperative farming villages). In general, the land was collectively owned, individual Jews and families lived on and worked the land. Most Jewish individuals didn't "own" land or a house either, in the way that you're suggesting. Moreover, when they engaged in their ethnic cleansing war, they simply took whatever they wanted and the Jewish State recognized their ownership of the property.

There were many Palestinians (many families) who owned their homes in villages across the land, including farmland. However, if you want to deny that, that's fine, so what? If they had different living arrangements that didn't fit with our modern concept of "home ownership" or owning land, that doesn't undermine their claim that Palestine is their country, rather than the country of foreign colonizers. To suggest otherwise is quite RICH, especially when most of those Zionist colonizers didn't individually "OWN" the land either. It never fails to amaze me the bullshit Zionists come up with to defend their illegal occupation of Palestine.

There has never been a country called Palestine.

 

[Hossfly]

There’s a part of being a Christian.

Accepting that Jesus was born of miraculous birth to the Virgin Mary

Are you Christian

I have no religious preference. Organized religion is a world-wide scam. However, I believe in the God that created mankind.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I have no religious preference. Organized religion is a world-wide scam. However, I believe in the God that created mankind.

Thanks

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

There has never been a country called Palestine.

Sorry, you asked a question about rockets earlier. They’ve never done anything of substantial.

The point is, there is no organized legitimate military in any of Palestine like there is for example in Ukraine or Russia. They don’t have anti-aircraft present in Palestine. They stand no chance against the IDF

So this is not a war. There was a raid into Israel, and some members of the IDF may have allowed it to occur. And so now Israel is responding to it with air strikes. And if they send in the military as an a ground invasion, they might be meant by some gorilla resistance, but it’s not a pitched battle. It’s not a war. Not like Vietnam or iraq


Baathist Iraq was crushed by America in 2003 but at least they had some semblance of a military… although it was quite exhausted by 2003 considering their wars in Iran and the first gulf war

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Yet another whiney antisemite.

The difference between a pro Israel fanatic and me is I can still have a conversation with people who hate Islam or Christianity . I don’t call them names. But there are those on this board who if somebody so much as criticizes Israel they get labeled an antisemite.

So the pro Israeli fanatics are the babies. Not pro Israel people but the hard-core pro Israel people are problematic.

They are the whiners , if you will. I can’t believe that some of the Trump supporters who “stand by” Israel are acting like BLM supporter using BLM tactics to call people racist with no evidence to back it up. Oh well what can you do hopefully they change

 

[Rawley]

Sorry, you asked a question about rockets earlier. They’ve never done anything of substantial.

Because of Israel's Iron Dome. Don't be silly.

The point is, there is no organized legitimate military in any of Palestine like there is for example in Ukraine or Russia.

??? Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades - Wikipedia

They don’t have anti-aircraft present in Palestine. They stand no chance against the IDF

Perhaps they should have thought of that before slaughtering 1,500 Jews and taking hostages.

So this is not a war. There was a raid into Israel, and some members of the IDF may have allowed it to occur. And so now Israel is responding to it with air strikes. And if they send in the military as an a ground invasion, they might be meant by some gorilla resistance, but it’s not a pitched battle. It’s not a war. Not like Vietnam or iraq


Baathist Iraq was crushed by America in 2003 but at least they had some semblance of a military… although it was quite exhausted by 2003 considering their wars in Iran and the first gulf war

Of course it's a war. The fact that your side doesn't wear uniforms and hides and wages the war from inside civilian the civilian populace, doesn't negate the fact that they are waging war.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The difference between a pro Israel fanatic and me is I can still have a conversation with people who hate Islam or Christianity . I don’t call them names. But there are those on this board who if somebody so much as criticizes Israel they get labeled an antisemite.

So the pro Israeli fanatics are the babies. Not pro Israel people but the hard-core pro Israel people are problematic.

They are the whiners , if you will. I can’t believe that some of the Trump supporters who “stand by” Israel are acting like BLM supporter using BLM tactics to call people racist with no evidence to back it up. Oh well what can you do hopefully they change

Disabuse yourself of the notion you are being clever. Every reasonable person on this board recognizes you as an antisemite.

 

[Red Front]

There has never been a country called Palestine.

The land was called Palestine for almost 2000 years, since the second century. Before Christ/the "common era", the area where Gaza is today was the land of the Philistines. The Philistines have always been there. Anyway, it doesn't matter what word or name was used to identify the holy land. The crux of the issue is that the people who now identify as Palestinians, have been living there for centuries. Genetically the so-called "Arabs" of the Levant, aren't really Arabs. They're Levantine Semites, which includes the Hebrews, the ancient Israelites, Arameans, Akadians and Assyrians. They're the people of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and the Holy Land.

According to Israeli scientists, Palestinians are genetically of the holy land. About a quarter of them have the Cohen gene, which is a genetic marker that is found mostly among the priestly class of Israel. The descendants of Aaron, of the priestly tribe of Levi. When all of the other Israelites and Jews left, after the Roman destruction of the temple and the defeat of Simon Bar Kokhba the fake messiah, these people remained in the land, close to the temple and Jerusalem. They were of priestly stock. Cohenim. They remained near the ruins of their temple,

 

[Rawley]

The land was called Palestine for almost 2000 years, since the second century. Before Christ/the "common era", the area where Gaza is today was the land of the Philistines. The Philistines have always been there. Anyway, it doesn't matter what word or name was used to identify the holy land. The crux of the issue is that the people who now identify as Palestinians, have been living there for centuries. Genetically the so-called "Arabs" of the Levant, aren't really Arabs. They're Levantine Semites, which includes the Hebrews, the ancient Israelites, Arameans, Akadians and Assyrians. They're the people of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and the Holy Land.

According to Israeli scientists, Palestinians are genetically of the holy land. About a quarter of them have the Cohen gene, which is a genetic marker that is found mostly among the priestly class of Israel. The descendants of Aaron, of the priestly tribe of Levi. When all of the other Israelites and Jews left, after the Roman destruction of the temple and the defeat of Simon Bar Kokhba the fake messiah, these people remained in the land, close to the temple and Jerusalem. They were of priestly stock. Cohenim. They remained near the ruins of their temple,

OK. There has never been a country called Palestine.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Beginning in the late 19th century and intensifying in the 20th century, various Jewish organizations started purchasing land in Palestine. The two most prominent were the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association. These organizations aimed to buy land for Jewish settlement.

The Zionist project in Palestine was characterized by a strong emphasis on collective settlement, such as kibbutzim (collective farms) and moshavim (cooperative farming villages). In general, the land was collectively owned, individual Jews and families lived on and worked the land. Most Jewish individuals didn't "own" land or a house either, in the way that you're suggesting. Moreover, when they engaged in their ethnic cleansing war, they simply took whatever they wanted and the Jewish State recognized their ownership of the property.

There were many Palestinians (many families) who owned their homes in villages across the land, including farmland. However, if you want to deny that, that's fine, so what? If they had different living arrangements that didn't fit with our modern concept of "home ownership" or owning land, that doesn't undermine their claim that Palestine is their country, rather than the country of foreign colonizers. To suggest otherwise is quite RICH, especially when most of those Zionist colonizers didn't individually "OWN" the land either. It never fails to amaze me the bullshit Zionists come up with to defend their illegal occupation of Palestine.

Beginning in the late 19th century and intensifying in the 20th century, various Jewish organizations started purchasing land in Palestine. The two most prominent were the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association. These organizations aimed to buy land for Jewish settlement.

Yes, a lot of Jewish land purchases.

There were many Palestinians (many families) who owned their homes in villages across the land, including farmland.

Where did the Arabs buy the land rather than rent or squat on it? Link?

If they had different living arrangements that didn't fit with our modern concept of "home ownership" or owning land, that doesn't undermine their claim that Palestine is their country,

If you rent an apartment and your landlord dies (or loses WWI) you don't suddenly own the apartment.

It never fails to amaze me the bullshit Zionists come up with to defend their illegal occupation of Palestine.

Occupation of what?

 

[Red Front]

Beginning in the late 19th century and intensifying in the 20th century, various Jewish organizations started purchasing land in Palestine. The two most prominent were the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association. These organizations aimed to buy land for Jewish settlement.

Yes, a lot of Jewish land purchases.

There were many Palestinians (many families) who owned their homes in villages across the land, including farmland.

Where did the Arabs buy the land rather than rent or squat on it? Link?

If they had different living arrangements that didn't fit with our modern concept of "home ownership" or owning land, that doesn't undermine their claim that Palestine is their country,

If you rent an apartment and your landlord dies (or loses WWI) you don't suddenly own the apartment.

It never fails to amaze me the bullshit Zionists come up with to defend their illegal occupation of Palestine.

Occupation of what?

Yes, a lot of Jewish land purchases.

About 6% of the land was purchased by these Zionist Jewish organizations, like the "Palestine Jewish Colonization Association " LOL! It doesn't matter if these racist Zionist colonizers purchase land from certain Palestinians or Turks, or from British authorities, they don't have the right to kick the Palestinians out of the territory and create a racist Jewocracy/Jewish State. Dehumanizing all of the non-Jews.

Where did the Arabs buy the land rather than rent or squat on it? Link?

Prove that only Ottoman Turks owned everything and that when authorities like the UN state that Arabs or Palestinians owned those lands and homes, they're wrong. It was actually Turks from Turkey, that owned everything. Go ahead, provide the evidence.

There were Palestinians who owned land as individuals, together as families, as collectives working the land..etc. There were also tens of thousands of bedouins who lived in tents throughout the Negev and called Palestine home. The holy land was the land of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. It's not just the land of the Jews.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-196499/

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More evidence:

https://users.cecs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/yabber/census/VillageStatistics1945orig.pdf

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Provide me with the evidence that when the UN says that "Arabs" owned the land, it was only Turks from Turkey who had authority or held a deed with the Ottoman authorities, for the lands the Palestinians lived on and worked. There were tens of thousands of Palestinians (both Muslims and Christians) living in cities like Jerusalem, Hebron, Bethlehem..etc, who owned businesses, and their own homes. You're pretending that if someone rents their living space or lives and works on a collective farm (Ironically as many Jewish immigrants did, you're also arguing against them since they didn't qualify as individual owners under your silly "logic"), they don't have legal status as a resident of that territory, be it a province, county, state..etc. You're thinking is skewed and silly.

Following "Todd-Logic", the native Africans of South Africa, don't really have a connection or any roots to South Africa, because the Europeans bought all of the land and the black natives rent their housing from the European settlers. If blacks are dehumanized and treated as foreigners in their own land by European colonizers, so be it. That's Todd's retardo-logic.

Puerto Ricans who currently live in American territory and hold American passports, the people who now live on the Island of St Thomas in the Caribbean who hold American passports, or on the Island of Guam in the Pacific Ocean who are also born American citizens, can't really identify themselves as the legitimate and legal inhabitants or natives of that land unless they own a house or a piece of land, and aren't renting. If the American empire crumbles and these people are left with worthless American passports, any other group of people can just show up on the Island and say "Oh right everybody, this is our Island, you renters leave". This is "Todd-Logic". It's stupid and cynical.

If you rent an apartment and your landlord dies (or loses WWI) you don't suddenly own the apartment.

That depends. You're still an American if the US loses the war, aren't you? You don't have any roots here at all unless you legally owned a house or land? No rights at all? If China invades America and wins the war, do the Chinese now own everything and you as an American who rents an apartment shouldn't have any rights? The Jewish Zionist organizations purchase land and bring hundreds of thousands of Jews from Europe and that makes them the new owners of the territory of Palestine? Your thinking is all screwed up. You also haven't proven that all of the Palestinians were renters and only Ottoman Turks owned everything. Moreover, you completely ignore the fact that even most Jews didn't own anything and were living in kibbutzim (collective farms) and moshavim (cooperative farming villages). So your stupid point is moot.

Occupation of what?

Of Palestine, the territory inhabited by the natives of that land DURRRRRR. According to international law, the Zionist state of Israhell is occupying Palestinian territory. The West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. These areas according to the UN, belong to the Palestinians.

 

[Red Front]

OK. There has never been a country called Palestine.

It depends on what you mean by "country". Since when do people who live in a territory and have their own culture, for centuries, cease to be a people or to have roots or rights to land, because they didn't fit your arbitrary requirement that demands they must have a modern state or "country"? You're not making any sense.

 

[MinTrut]

Often the same pro Israel people here in America who lie about other peoples views, calling folks antisemitic for criticizing Israeli policy …will also say that “Islam is a violent religion” or “Muslims are a death cult”. Isn’t that interesting. Those people who do that Lose all credibility when they call people anti Semitic…. They’re also some of the most annoying losers on the planet.

And I do believe that in this world might makes right

It’s a fact of life. Might makes right. Israel has all the might over Hamas. But politicians and people in the media will exaggerate about things and hype things up that Jews are in some existential threat, which is humiliating and embarrassing to the strong people of Israel.

The fact of the matter is that most Israelis and Palestinians want to live together, and would marry each other and love each other. This beauty +love certainly can happen, and I think it will eventually with a one state solution. But in response to this, you have pro Israel racists will simply say “that can’t happen Jews will become a minority” as if somehow the Palestinians, which includes Christians ….are evil. And it’s always the same annoying pro Israel people who call other people anti-semitic , are the same people who denigrate Palestinians.

Keyboard warriors will lash out at the people of Israel and Palestine, who want to live together. But God will prevail over them and love and peace will prevail.

Might - and massive Israeli war crimes - will prevail, at least in the meantime.

The opinions of decent, sane people are good to hear, but they won't stop Israeli terrorism, at least not this week.

But it's good to see Israel pushing ever closer to the point where even the USG can't support its genocidal rampages any longer.

The world is watching.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

About 6% of the land was purchased by these Zionist Jewish organizations, like the "Palestine Jewish Colonization Association " LOL! It doesn't matter if these racist Zionist colonizers purchase land from certain Palestinians or Turks, or from British authorities, they don't have the right to kick the Palestinians out of the territory and create a racist Jewocracy/Jewish State. Dehumanizing all of the non-Jews.



Prove that only Ottoman Turks owned everything and that when authorities like the UN state that Arabs or Palestinians owned those lands and homes, they're wrong. It was actually Turks from Turkey, that owned everything. Go ahead, provide the evidence.

There were Palestinians who owned land as individuals, together as families, as collectives working the land..etc. There were also tens of thousands of bedouins who lived in tents throughout the Negev and called Palestine home. The holy land was the land of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. It's not just the land of the Jews.

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https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-196499/

​

More evidence:

https://users.cecs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/yabber/census/VillageStatistics1945orig.pdf

​

Provide me with the evidence that when the UN says that "Arabs" owned the land, it was only Turks from Turkey who had authority or held a deed with the Ottoman authorities, for the lands the Palestinians lived on and worked. There were tens of thousands of Palestinians (both Muslims and Christians) living in cities like Jerusalem, Hebron, Bethlehem..etc, who owned businesses, and their own homes. You're pretending that if someone rents their living space or lives and works on a collective farm (Ironically as many Jewish immigrants did, you're also arguing against them since they didn't qualify as individual owners under your silly "logic"), they don't have legal status as a resident of that territory, be it a province, county, state..etc. You're thinking is skewed and silly.

Following "Todd-Logic", the native Africans of South Africa, don't really have a connection or any roots to South Africa, because the Europeans bought all of the land and the black natives rent their housing from the European settlers. If blacks are dehumanized and treated as foreigners in their own land by European colonizers, so be it. That's Todd's retardo-logic.

Puerto Ricans who currently live in American territory and hold American passports, the people who now live on the Island of St Thomas in the Caribbean who hold American passports, or on the Island of Guam in the Pacific Ocean who are also born American citizens, can't really identify themselves as the legitimate and legal inhabitants or natives of that land unless they own a house or a piece of land, and aren't renting. If the American empire crumbles and these people are left with worthless American passports, any other group of people can just show up on the Island and say "Oh right everybody, this is our Island, you renters leave". This is "Todd-Logic". It's stupid and cynical.




That depends. You're still an American if the US loses the war, aren't you? You don't have any roots here at all unless you legally owned a house or land? No rights at all? If China invades America and wins the war, do the Chinese now own everything and you as an American who rents an apartment shouldn't have any rights? The Jewish Zionist organizations purchase land and bring hundreds of thousands of Jews from Europe and that makes them the new owners of the territory of Palestine? Your thinking is all screwed up. You also haven't proven that all of the Palestinians were renters and only Ottoman Turks owned everything. Moreover, you completely ignore the fact that even most Jews didn't own anything and were living in kibbutzim (collective farms) and moshavim (cooperative farming villages). So your stupid point is moot.

Occupation of what?

Of Palestine, the territory inhabited by the natives of that land DURRRRRR. According to international law, the Zionist state of Israhell is occupying Palestinian territory. The West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. These areas according to the UN, belong to the Palestinians.

About 6% of the land was purchased by these Zionist Jewish organizations, like the "Palestine Jewish Colonization Association

About 6% more than the Arabs purchased.

There were Palestinians who owned land as individuals, together as families, as collectives working the land..etc.

How much? Link?

According to international law, the Zionist state of Israhell is occupying Palestinian territory. The West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza.
It wasn't Palestinian territory when Egypt held Gaza or when Jordan held Samaria, JUDEA and East Jerusalem.

That depends. You're still an American if the US loses the war, aren't you?

Yes, they're still Arabs who don't own any land.

 

[Red Front]

Might - and massive Israeli war crimes - will prevail, at least in the meantime.

The opinions of decent, sane people are good to hear, but they won't stop Israeli terrorism, at least not this week.

But it's good to see Israel pushing ever closer to the point where even the USG can't support its genocidal rampages any longer.

The world is watching.

The world is waking up. I believe the Zionists are going to trigger the Muslims into a massive JIHAD, like never seen before in history. There are two billion Muslims in the world with over 50 countries that have Muslim majorities. Like Israhell, Pakistan also has nukes, and I wouldn't be surprised if other Muslim countries have nukes too, they're just not admitting it. Satanyahoo, I mean Netanyahoo, is going to invite destruction to his Zionist apartheid state. An army of tens of millions of Muslims, ready, willing and able to take back Palestine and are more than willing if necessary to die. To sacrifice themselves, for the sake of their religion and Palestinian brothers and sisters. When Muslims get triggered or snap, that's it. Satanyahoo is clueless, he doesn't know what he's getting himself into.

 

[MinTrut]

The world is waking up. I believe the Zionists are going to trigger the Muslims into a massive JIHAD, like never seen before in history. There are two billion Muslims in the world with over 50 countries that have Muslim majorities. Like Israhell, Pakistan also has nukes, and I wouldn't be surprised if other Muslim countries have nukes too, they're just not admitting it. Satanyahoo, I mean Netanyahoo, is going to invite destruction to his Zionist apartheid state. An army of tens of millions of Muslims, ready, willing and able to take back Palestine and are more than willing if necessary to die. To sacrifice themselves, for the sake of their religion and Palestinian brothers and sisters. When Muslims get triggered or snap, that's it. Satanyahoo is clueless, he doesn't know what he's getting himself into.

Pakistan is a country no one really talks about in all this, but if Israel finally goes too far...