Some inconvenient facts for EV cheerleaders!!

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The Far Left Extremists do not understand the laws of thermodynamics.
Electric Cars waste energy, and therefore they produce more CO2, not less.
It is more efficient to burn the fossil fuel directly in the car, than to charge an EV battery.

Laws of Thermodynamics

• First law of thermodynamics: When energy moves into or out of a system, the system’s internal energy changes in accordance with the law of conservation of mass.
• Second law of thermodynamics: The state of the entropy of the entire universe, as an isolated system, will always increase over time.
• Third law of thermodynamics: Entropy of a perfect crystal at absolute zero is zero.

Thermodynamics - Laws Of Thermodynamics, Applications with E…​

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[Ralph Norton]

Probably just like gasoline autos that have caught fire.

Not just sitting in the driveway.

 

[konradv]

The Far Left Extremists do not understand the laws of thermodynamics.
Electric Cars waste energy, and therefore they produce more CO2, not less.
It is more efficient to burn the fossil fuel directly in the car, than to charge an EV battery.

Laws of Thermodynamics

• First law of thermodynamics: When energy moves into or out of a system, the system’s internal energy changes in accordance with the law of conservation of mass.
• Second law of thermodynamics: The state of the entropy of the entire universe, as an isolated system, will always increase over time.
• Third law of thermodynamics: Entropy of a perfect crystal at absolute zero is zero.

Thermodynamics - Laws Of Thermodynamics, Applications with E…​

byjus.com/chemistry/thermodynamics/
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Got some data showing that EVs produce more CO2? I think if that were really true, you‘d be broadcasting the cites far and wide!

 

[Moonglow]

Not just sitting in the driveway.

You should read some insurance claims

 

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Pols who push electric cars ignore basic math and physics​

Why would they stop now?

That guy said all the things we have been saying for years.

 

[skookerasbil]

Probably just like gasoline autos that have caught fire.

Ahhh....but as they say, perception is 95% reality. Nobody thinks ICE cars spontaneously blow up. But now, they sure do know EV's do!!

 

[Calypso Jones]

What They Don’t Tell You About Driving Electric Cars In The Winter

EVs have made incredible strides during their relatively short existence, but driving one during winter still presents some challenges.

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Winter months affect performance. and more frequent chargings.

what a great idea EVs are!! LOlolOLOL

 

[Crick]

Proof? I bet there are NOT millions on the road.

Prove there are more than 2 million EVs on the road.

Prove how many are in America, and not glorified golf carts in China.

Here's the numbers for the US, brah, millions? No.

Here’s how US electric vehicle sales by maker and EV model through Q3 2022 compare

2022 has been the biggest year for electric vehicles in the United States on record as automakers go head to...

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Worldwide
Electric car sales reached a record high in 2021, despite supply chain bottlenecks and the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic. Compared with 2020, sales nearly doubled to 6.6 million (a sales share of nearly 9%), bringing the total number of electric cars on the road to 16.5 million. The sales share of electric cars increased by 4 percentage points in 2021. The Net Zero Emissions by 2050 Scenario sees an electric car fleet of over 300 million in 2030 and electric cars accounting for 60% of new car sales. Getting on track with the Net Zero Scenario.

Just under 600,000 were sold in 2022. Here’s how US electric vehicle sales by maker and EV model through Q3 2022 compare

 

[fncceo]

Is that why Elon is making so many billions making electric cars to sell?

It's not difficult to get rich off the right fad ...

 

[Crick]

The Far Left Extremists do not understand the laws of thermodynamics.
Electric Cars waste energy, and therefore they produce more CO2, not less.
It is more efficient to burn the fossil fuel directly in the car, than to charge an EV battery.

Laws of Thermodynamics

The zeroth law states that if two thermodynamic systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other, and also separately in thermal equilibrium with a third system, then the three systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other.

• First law of thermodynamics: When energy moves into or out of a system, the system’s internal energy changes in accordance with the law of conservation of mass.

The first law states that "energy can neither be created nor destroyed in a "closed system".

• Second law of thermodynamics: The state of the entropy of the entire universe, as an isolated system, will always increase over time.

The second law states that heat always moves from hotter objects to colder objects, unless energy in some form is supplied to reverse the direction of heat flow OR that the entropy of isolated systems left to spontaneous evolution cannot decrease, as they always arrive at a state of thermodynamic equilibrium where the entropy is highest at the given internal energy. An increase in the combined entropy of system and surroundings accounts for the irreversibility of natural processes, often referred to in the concept of the arrow of time.

• Third law of thermodynamics: Entropy of a perfect crystal at absolute zero is zero.

The third law states that the entropy of a system approaches a constant value when its temperature approaches absolute zero.


Now, please explain how you have used these three laws to determine that EVs produce more CO2, not less.

 

[Flash]

Oooops
For the bozos who fall for the EV propaganda

Basic math fAiL
Pols who push electric cars ignore basic math and physics

My son bought a Tesla a couple of years ago.

He is ready to dump it. The $65K vehicle was OK for commuting the 15 miles to work and back but just about useless for anything else, including driving it much on the weekends. After several test runs no more long trips at all.

He is going to get rid of it.

I told him when he got it it was going to be a bust but he wanted the status of having one in the upscale neighborhood where he lives. Kids should listen to their parents.

 

[fncceo]

The zeroth law states that if two thermodynamic systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other, and also separately in thermal equilibrium with a third system, then the three systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other.

The first law states that "energy can neither be created nor destroyed in a "closed system".

The second law states that heat always moves from hotter objects to colder objects, unless energy in some form is supplied to reverse the direction of heat flow OR that the entropy of isolated systems left to spontaneous evolution cannot decrease, as they always arrive at a state of thermodynamic equilibrium where the entropy is highest at the given internal energy. An increase in the combined entropy of system and surroundings accounts for the irreversibility of natural processes, often referred to in the concept of the arrow of time.

The third law states that the entropy of a system approaches a constant value when its temperature approaches absolute zero.


Now, please explain how you have used these three laws to determine that EVs produce more CO2, not less.

An electric vehicle, or anything electric for that matter, is not a closed system.

Energy must be constantly introduced into the system as energy is lost conversion to mechanical work, heat, and light.

 

[Flash]

The zeroth law states that if two thermodynamic systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other, and also separately in thermal equilibrium with a third system, then the three systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other.

The first law states that "energy can neither be created nor destroyed in a "closed system".

The second law states that heat always moves from hotter objects to colder objects, unless energy in some form is supplied to reverse the direction of heat flow OR that the entropy of isolated systems left to spontaneous evolution cannot decrease, as they always arrive at a state of thermodynamic equilibrium where the entropy is highest at the given internal energy. An increase in the combined entropy of system and surroundings accounts for the irreversibility of natural processes, often referred to in the concept of the arrow of time.

The third law states that the entropy of a system approaches a constant value when its temperature approaches absolute zero.


Now, please explain how you have used these three laws to determine that EVs produce more CO2, not less.

You want to know the Law of Physics that says L-I vehicles are shit technology?

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".*

* (also a Law of Economics)

 

[Crick]

An electric vehicle, or anything electric for that matter, is not a closed system.

Energy must be constantly introduced into the system as energy is lost conversion to mechanical work, heat, and light.

If you include the battery and never turn on the lights or the heater...

 

[Crick]

You want to know the Law of Physics that says L-I vehicles are shit technology?

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".*

* (also a Law of Economics)

No, there isn't. And the price of continuing the use of fossil fuels is 5C warming and multiple feet of sea level rise in the next century.

 

[fncceo]

If you include the battery and never turn on the lights or the heater...

The waste heat from a electric device comes from, the conversion of electricity into mechanical work, electrical resistance and, if resistance is sufficient, light as heated metals emit photons. There is a reason why electric motors and lights become hot.

Light from in the form of headlights, panel indicators, etc, and heat if the form of a space heater would be considered useful.

 

[fncceo]

No, there isn't. And the price of continuing the use of fossil fuels is 5C warming and multiple feet of sea level rise in the next century.

Allegedly.

 

[Sunni Man]

 

[The Duke]

I wonder if steam vehicles would be more efficient.

 

[fncceo]

I wonder if steam vehicles would be more efficient.

In 1906, a Stanley Steamer Vanderbilt Racer set a land speed record of 126 MPH. A record that remained unbroken for eight years.

There is one remaining 1906 Vanderbilt Racer and it belongs to Jay Leno.

The Stanley Streamer require 30 minutes to go from cold start to driving but it had more range than a modern EV and only takes minutes to refuel.