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That kid misrepresented himself as the Canadian man's "partner" ... what else did he misrepresent?I think this video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1
I think this video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1
no mistakes. why is it the followers of the obama religion cant see the trouble this will cause? its great everyone will have access, but the man is right, long wait times, no real help, and months of waiting. honestly why cant you see this.
why is it the followers of the obama religion cant see the trouble this will cause?
its great everyone will have access, but the man is right, long wait times, no real help, and months of waiting.
honestly why cant you see this.
well thanks for that but my uncle is from canada, and he was the one that showed me this video. he says this video could not be more accurate. before he was able to make a decent living he had to live through the socialzed health system. im not disagreeing with you on the fact that it seems to be one sided, but the point was made. i do also agree with you it does have benefits, i mean some health care is better than none, but the taxes part is dead on. also it WILL cause the hospitals and private practices to charge more due to loss of patients. i dont blame obama for wanting to change the health care system, but there are so many different ways of doing it. i apologize earlier for assuming you were a obama follower wether you are or you arent. your right that is not a way to debate. now obviously i DO NOT know from first hand experience, but i am told by someone who has experienced it.
I think this video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1
How dare you sir, how dare you put up a video that goes against what the great and awesome micheal moore says. lol my god people still care about what he has to say? everyone should know he alters the truth to prove his point. anyway those videos hit right on the head of the nail.
the idea of socialized health care is a wonderful fantasy, but put into actual use its not as good. my uncle lived in canada till he was roughly 26, and he says it does not work. he only finally got good health care when he saved up the money to come to the states to get it. thats how he meet my aunt. there is a lot of things wrong with him medically that was fixed thanks to american way of healthcare. i see what you are longing for but you have to realize that put in practice just will not work. wait times will be extremely long (you think your the only one that wants free medical) and competetion between doctors will be nill. as for michael moore, even the people he has interviewed says their interviews were not all what they said. much left out. its been agreed on both sides of the political parties that micheal moore is a genius at altering the truth. no one takes him seriously anymore, even the people that are on the side he is. besides screw bush, mccain, and obama, i wanted ron paul to win.
I think this video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1
Well it looks like people are hating on your video saying its deceptive.
Lets look at 20/20's opinion [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refrYKq9tZQ&feature=channel]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 3 (of 6)[/ame]
Or how about how govt run products turn out? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhiG0dcwN8&feature=channel]YouTube - John Stossel - Sick in America - Part 4 (of 6)[/ame]
Everyone knows that if you are low income in america you can go to the emergency room and get free care that will be kicked back to the govt for payment already. We have medicare/cade that many low income people fall under but dont sign up for.
WE also know our system has issues that need to be fixed, its far from perfect, but our system is also where people from around the world come to when there is a serious illness and they can afford it....why is that?
I heard cuba had a good system though, better than ours at least [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x6yHrRq774]YouTube - Stossel Cuba Healthcare[/ame]
The House Democrats released their long-awaited draft health care reform bill today, and every rumor about what tax hikes would be included was true--and then some. My friend Ryan Ellis over at Americans for Tax Reform posted the details.
The big shocker is that the surtax on high-income earners, including small businesses, is much steeper than the rumored 3 percent that I talked about in my podcast yesterday. Instead it's 5.4 percent. Not of taxable income, mind you, but of adjusted gross income. That means the tax applies to income that was spent on home mortgage interest, medical expenses, property taxes, charitable contributions, and nearly everything else currently deducted from taxable income.
Combined with President Obama's plan to repeal the Bush tax cuts on schedule in 2011, this would mean hiking the top marginal capital gains tax rate from 15 percent to 25.4 percent--much higher than Obama promised on the campaign trail, and near the 28 percent rate from before the 1997 Bill Clinton tax cuts. Such a tax hike would slam the brakes on capital formation and wallop capital markets with another gut punch just as they are finally beginning to recover from the financial crisis. It would also dramatically inhibit badly needed business investment.
The tax hit on capital gains, however, would pale compared to the new top rate on ordinary income, already scheduled to go from 35% to 39.6 percent in 2011, but now pushed up to 45 percent with the new surtax, and actually substantially higher than that as a percentage of taxable income because the new 5.4 percent surtax is applied to AGI.
Such punitive income tax rates would be a huge impediment to business activity throughout the economy, especially for the small and medium-sized business that create nearly all of the new employment that we need to lead us out of the recession.
And it actually gets a lot worse. Employers would also be mandated to provide health insurance under the bill, and the cost of health insurance would likely skyrocket because of new regulations called guaranteed issue and community rating. The only alternative, which many companies would either be forced into by cost considerations or choose for simplicity, would be to pay a payroll tax of as much as 8 percent. That's on top of the existing 15.3 percent payroll tax for Social Security and Medicare, creating a new total payroll tax of 23.3 percent.
There would also be a new tax on individuals who don't have health insurance, flying in the face of President Obama's key primary campaign promise not to require people to be insured. That tax would be another 2.5 percent of AGI.
These eye-popping numbers, of course, don't include state and local taxes, which are also rising in most of the country.
Sealy I'm not going to try and tear down your statements or claim you are wrong
Instead I'm going to present you with a small challenge.
Explain to me how it is a smart Idea to put the same govt that can not make our social security program solvent in charge of health care.
Social Security is a simple savings plan and the reps/dems can't even handle that without making it bankrupt and insolvent. So how can you expect the majority of americans to trust them to run health care for us?
I mean just look at the system they set up http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf
They can't handle a savings account but think they can handle that? here is a small pic of the govt's propsal.
Social security is a wonderful program. The politicians are robbing from it. Thats the problem. Maybe we can put this money in a lockbox.
The GOP didn't just say government sucks, they proved it. Yes, I do fear what the GOP would do to socialized healthcare. They might turn into the CEO's who deny us care so they can spend more on defense.
But, then I think about medicare. Its not bad. Do you think we should end medicare because politicians suck?
PS. For Profits have done more harm than the politicians could ever possibly do. All the scare tactics aimed at killing the single payer plan forget that fact. And they are costing us so much that more and more of us can't afford it and that number is growing. How long until you can't afford it? What then?
And not everyone is insured. They cost twice as much as they should and not everyone is insured. How smart is that?
But see thats just it....do you think they will keep their hands out of the money in the health care cookie jar? I dont.
I don't deny our system has some serious issues, i just dont think it would be smart for us as americans to trust the same dirtbags who robbed social security with our health and well-being.
Chances are if we put the govt in charge the system will either become broken or even more expensive than it already is. At least that is the experience we have all shared as americans when the govt tries to do things for us.
Nice response BTW
I think this video says it all
http://www.youtube.com/v/q2jijuj1ysw&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&feature=player_embedded&fs=1
