Socialism-the BIGGEST plight/failure to this world, EVER.

[shintao]

[2 million in Cambodia

Looks like your biggest problem here, besides getting your ass kicked up between your shoulders, is you don't know the difference between Socialism and Communism, which Poi Pot was a die hard commie like the people who loan you money.

Out side of that, it was a good thing your toilet seat was down last night or you would have drown in the bowl.

 

[JBeukema]

Yep the Nazi must be socialist because they have it in their name.

Next you'll make the jump to Nazis were liberals.

Liberals that hate liberty, freedom, individual responisblility.

Black is white, up is down.

Your world.

They were indeed called the National Socialist Workers Party for a reason, do you want me to pull up their manifesto? Or are you gonna be good and stay quiet now, as all you're doing is talking outta your ass, as usual.

They killed all the communists, unions, and other political parties- including the real socialists who split with the party


Just a little history lesson for ya

 

[JBeukema]

My point was that Socialism has, is now, and will ALWAYS been worse than Capitalism by light years, will always have killed more people, and is the plight I previously asserted.

Communism, socialism, collectivism, etc, WHATEVER. It's all far left, and they remain guilty of what I previously posted.

capitalism


socialism
Very High Human Development

1. Norway
2. Australia
3. New Zealand
4. United States
5. Ireland
6. Liechtenstein
7. Netherlands
8. Canada

 

[The T]

My point was that Socialism has, is now, and will ALWAYS been worse than Capitalism by light years, will always have killed more people, and is the plight I previously asserted.

Communism, socialism, collectivism, etc, WHATEVER. It's all far left, and they remain guilty of what I previously posted.

capitalism


socialism
Very High Human Development

1. Norway
2. Australia
3. New Zealand
4. United States
5. Ireland
6. Liechtenstein
7. Netherlands
8. Canada

Citing the ******* UN fer God sakes?

The UN: He-Man, Despots and Dictators, America-Hater's club...

 

[JBeukema]

You prefer Heritage Foundation?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...ys-better-than-america-answered-dipshits.html

 

[JakeStarkey]

That's your response? Good job, you've done NOTHING to disprove the point of my O.P., which I've stated numerous times now, it wasn't a critique on the socialist structure, but how it's killed more people than anything else.

But of you want collectivism, and wealth redistribution, be my guest. If fact, why don't you go head and donate your whole check to the federal government, or the Chi-coms....

Congratulations, you know how to use dictionary.com lol, you apparently need to since you're illiterate and just another dolt lefty I won't take seriously

Your plight is that you have mislabeled your OP, moron. You have provided no statistics that are verifiable. If you are going to that path of stupidity, without a doubt, my religion, Christianity, has killed far more than communism and fascism and imperialism together.

Go study how to create a thesis, moron, and then come back with one that makes sense.

Again illiterate one, mass murders thru decades by an ideology put into practice definitely works as plight. Get back on dictionary.com dude.

Usually, the 6 million killed by Hitler and 65 million killed by Mao is COMMON KNOWLEDGE, but I forgot who I'm talkin to lol.

20 million in the Soviet Union

65 million in the People's Republic of China

1 million in Vietnam

2 million in North Korea

2 million in Cambodia

1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe

150,000 in Latin America

1.7 million in Africa

1.5 million in Afghanistan

10,000 deaths resulting from actions of communist parties not in power (assassinations etc)


The executions of tens of thousands of hostages and prisoners, and the murder of hundreds of thousands of rebellious workers and peasants during the Russian Revolution and Civil war from 1918 to 1922

The intentional Russian and Ukrainian famine of 1921, which caused the death of 5 million people.

The extermination and deportation of the Don Cossacks in 1920

Mao's "Great Purge" and the which exterminated 690,000 people

The deportation of 2 million so-called "kulaks" from 1930 to 1932

The 2nd Intentionally-created famine of 1932AND 1933, causing th edeaths of 4 million Ukrainians (Holodomor) and 2 million others.

The deportations of Poles, Ukrainians, Balts, Moldavians and Bessarabians from 1939 to 1941 and from 1944 to 1945

The deportation of the Volga Germans in 1941

The deportation of the Crimean Tatars in 1943

The deportation of the Chechens in 1944 and Wars against them in the 90's.

The deportation of the Ingush in 1944.

The Invasion of Afghanistan in 1979

Tianamen Square

The Invasion of Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968.

So far I am at approximately 94 million deaths directly attributed to the ideals and system to whoch you Liberal Democrats ascribe. Are tyou proud of yourself for electing one of them as your President in 2008?

Very good that you did as I suggested, but you are not done. (1) Now compare it to the genocide practiced on the Native Americans by Europeans. (2) Then compare it to the death toll committed by Christians through the centuries. (3) Conclude with an examination of the killing by fascists.

You are making a failed one-sided argument. And you are mistaking socialism for communism. Doesn't work. Get to it.

 

[mdn2000]

youre confusing socialist regimes with socialist ideas. we are the US already employ many socialist ideas into our version of democracy.

Social Security
Medicare
Education
Unemployment Insurance
The School Breakfast Program
Disability Insurance
Jails
The VA
Firefighters
Police
USPS

If we were to become a true "free-market" society. none of these programs would exist, and we would have to pay for all of these services.

if that be the case, are we prepared to pay for fire fighters to come to our homes if they are burning, the police to come to our businesses if someone is stealing, the jails to house the criminals of society, the primary education of all of our children?

to eliminate all social programs, would mean yes we may get to keep more of our money in our own pocket on our paycheck, but it would also mean that we would be spending 10 times that in the basic services that our tax provide for.

We do pay for all these services, why did you list all the failed programs first? You forgot that the USPS belongs with the failed services.

 

[miller]

If stupidity was a crime (it should be) all the conservatives would be doing life in prison.

At least conservatives should not be allowed to vote.

 

[miller]

The Jews are wrong and they keep causing problems for America. Read this:

Screwed Again: THE JEWS ARE WRONG

 

[mdn2000]

If stupidity was a crime (it should be) all the conservatives would be doing life in prison.

At least conservatives should not be allowed to vote.

Yea, if we didn't own guns

 

[shintao]

youre confusing socialist regimes with socialist ideas. we are the US already employ many socialist ideas into our version of democracy.

Social Security
Medicare
Education
Unemployment Insurance
The School Breakfast Program
Disability Insurance
Jails
The VA
Firefighters
Police
USPS

If we were to become a true "free-market" society. none of these programs would exist, and we would have to pay for all of these services.

if that be the case, are we prepared to pay for fire fighters to come to our homes if they are burning, the police to come to our businesses if someone is stealing, the jails to house the criminals of society, the primary education of all of our children?

to eliminate all social programs, would mean yes we may get to keep more of our money in our own pocket on our paycheck, but it would also mean that we would be spending 10 times that in the basic services that our tax provide for.

We do pay for all these services, why did you list all the failed programs first? You forgot that the USPS belongs with the failed services.

Social Security failed? How is that moron? They are still printing checks fool!!!!!

 

[mdn2000]

youre confusing socialist regimes with socialist ideas. we are the US already employ many socialist ideas into our version of democracy.

Social Security
Medicare
Education
Unemployment Insurance
The School Breakfast Program
Disability Insurance
Jails
The VA
Firefighters
Police
USPS

If we were to become a true "free-market" society. none of these programs would exist, and we would have to pay for all of these services.

if that be the case, are we prepared to pay for fire fighters to come to our homes if they are burning, the police to come to our businesses if someone is stealing, the jails to house the criminals of society, the primary education of all of our children?

to eliminate all social programs, would mean yes we may get to keep more of our money in our own pocket on our paycheck, but it would also mean that we would be spending 10 times that in the basic services that our tax provide for.

We do pay for all these services, why did you list all the failed programs first? You forgot that the USPS belongs with the failed services.

Social Security failed? How is that moron? They are still printing checks fool!!!!!

There was a trust fund set up for social security that was to be used for social security, the government spent that money, they now borrow money to pay the people on social security.

I thought this was common knowledge.

 

[rikules]

Yep the Nazi must be socialist because they have it in their name.

Next you'll make the jump to Nazis were liberals.

Liberals that hate liberty, freedom, individual responisblility.

Black is white, up is down.

Your world.

This post is a joke, right?

Liberals do hate liberty, freedom, and don't believe individual responsibility even exists.

"Liberals do hate liberty, freedom, and don't believe individual responsibility even exists"


allie!

shame shame shame!

you KNOW that is not true!


I'm surprised to hear you say something that you KNOW is much too extreme

MOST liberals believe in liberty and freedom as much as most conservatives do.
The difference is ONLY in WHICH freedoms either side would deny

liberals might deny you the RIGHT to smoke tobacco in public
while conservatives would deny others the right to eat dinner in a smoke free restaurant

liberals would deny you the right to build nuclear power plants in their backyards
(because they are dangerous and unhealthy)
while conservatives would deny others the right to smoke pot (because it is dangerous and unhealthy?)


liberals would deny conservatives the right to teach creation in schools while MANY conservative christians would deny liberals the right to teach evolution ("the big lie")

liberals would deny conservatives the right to


liberals would deny conservatives the right to have America OFFICIALLY declared a "christian nation"
while SOME conservative christians would deny atheists ANY and ALL rights (g bush, ohare airport)


liberals would deny conservatives the right to make divorce MUCH HARDER to get while conservatives would deny everyone else the right to get divorced at all!


see?

they BOTH believe in SOME freedoms
and they BOTH believe in SOME regulations and restrictions


in fact

I have heard MANY conservatives say the following.....


"freedom does NOT mean license"

 

[steelpoint]

Tally up ALL those killed by the far-left Socialist regimes of Hitler, every regime in the U.S.S.R., Mao, various past Socialist regimes of Latin America. not to mention every war they started. WW2, Vietnam, etc. And you get Satan's own personal masturbatory aid collage.

Count the large number of times Socialism has fallen, been disproven, fell to Capitalism.

Compare of superpower status, usual economic prosperity, and freedom in Capitalist nations of the U.S. and western Europe, to well, anywhere else in the world, including a small, insignificant village in China somewhere.

There is no comparison. This is the main reason why the left must be defeated, and shunned, here, everywhere. It's/they are inherently anti-liberty, freedom, prosperity, individualism, etc.

Let it be

 

[rikules]

Tally up ALL those killed by the far-left Socialist regimes of Hitler, every regime in the U.S.S.R., Mao, various past Socialist regimes of Latin America. not to mention every war they started. WW2, Vietnam, etc. And you get Satan's own personal masturbatory aid collage.

Count the large number of times Socialism has fallen, been disproven, fell to Capitalism.

Compare of superpower status, usual economic prosperity, and freedom in Capitalist nations of the U.S. and western Europe, to well, anywhere else in the world, including a small, insignificant village in China somewhere.

There is no comparison. This is the main reason why the left must be defeated, and shunned, here, everywhere. It's/they are inherently anti-liberty, freedom, prosperity, individualism, etc.

unfettered capitalism (YOUR ideal) is selling America to the highest foreign bidder

japan and china are buying it parcel by parcel

foreigners, made rich by agreement with greedy American capitalists, are buying up America....

unfettered capitalists (in an earnest attempt to please YOU) are sending jobs over seas in order to unemploy as many Americans as possible and scoop up even MORE wealth (i really hope you are happy)


Maybe someday your dream of a small handful of Americans owning ALL THE WEALTH while the rest of us eat out of their too few garbage cans will come true!


"It's/they are inherently anti-liberty, freedom, prosperity, individualism, etc."


so...
when we are NOT being IMMORAL HEDONISTS WHO believe in ANYTHING GOES we are anti-freedom and anti-liberty?

 

[shintao]

We do pay for all these services, why did you list all the failed programs first? You forgot that the USPS belongs with the failed services.

Social Security failed? How is that moron? They are still printing checks fool!!!!!

There was a trust fund set up for social security that was to be used for social security, the government spent that money, they now borrow money to pay the people on social security.

I thought this was common knowledge.

That doesn't mean SS failed. The people are still getting SS checks and cost of living increases. It probably isn't common knowledge because it is still deducted out of pay checks. So where is that money going?

 

[shintao]

So far I am at approximately 94 million deaths directly attributed to the ideals and system to whoch you Liberal Democrats ascribe. Are tyou proud of yourself for electing one of them as your President in 2008?

Hmm, so you are saying that socialists are better soldiers than the capitalist killing machine US military. That the US military is a complete ******* failure at killing the enemy in comparison to Socialists. Just one more reason that capitalism is a failure.

 

[(R)IGHTeous 1]

If stupidity was a crime (it should be) all the conservatives would be doing life in prison.

At least conservatives should not be allowed to vote.

Would you mind Seig Heiling somewhere else please?

 

[Political Junky]

Social Security will pay out full benefits for another 30-40 years and then still pay most of the benefits.

 

[mdn2000]

Social Security failed? How is that moron? They are still printing checks fool!!!!!

There was a trust fund set up for social security that was to be used for social security, the government spent that money, they now borrow money to pay the people on social security.

I thought this was common knowledge.

That doesn't mean SS failed. The people are still getting SS checks and cost of living increases. It probably isn't common knowledge because it is still deducted out of pay checks. So where is that money going?

It means exactly that, its failed, when you overdraw your bank account do you tell your friends you successfully saved for the future.

You are a complete idiot and exactly the reason we have even stupider politicians.