So you love socialism ?????

[PaintMyHouse]

6. “As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

 

[thanatos144]

With American labels? Lmao

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You actually think Sweden doesn't have the same products we do? That's just dumb.

Not in English dipshit

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Yes, in English. There are English labeled products on the shelves of every country in the world, just like there are Spanish labels at the grocery store here. It's called export.

Actually, countries that export products to the United States put the labels in English.

Not always.

Face it your pics were bullshit

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[peach174]

Sweden is doing just fine.
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Only because Sweden cut back on their social programs which both of our parties refuse to do.

BULLSHIT. Sweden is much better at taking care of their citizens than we are.

They cut back. They unlike us they balanced their budget.
How Sweden created a model economy | sweden.se

I did not say anything about how much better or not better they were with their social programs.
I personally would rather have what I work for rather than giving the government 57% or so of it.
That is the basic premises of what America is all about.
Low taxes, less Federal government.

Bullshit. Of all the things that make us Americans, those two things are way down on the list.

Yeah that's why the Founders did not have a Federal Income Tax and was against it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If someone had floated the idea of socialism to the Founding Fathers they would have looked at them like they had worms coming out their ears

Think so huh?

1. “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
— Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

2. “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
— Thomas Jefferson.

3. “The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”
— James Madison

Both of them would be totally against the Federal Reserve.

Very likely, the opposed concentrated power and wealth getting its way with no group able to stop them however they believed in government, it's why the founded one eh?

What they did not establish, anarchy, unregulated capitalism, or a nation for selfish children who think only of their own welfare...

Actually, they did establish unregulated capitalism. What kind of regulations on business did the federal government enforce in 1800?

Doesn't matter if they didn't have a one, they established, in the Constitution itself, the ability to regulate economic activity. That wasn't by accident.

 

[bripat9643]

With American labels? Lmao

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You actually think Sweden doesn't have the same products we do? That's just dumb.

Not in English dipshit

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Yes, in English. There are English labeled products on the shelves of every country in the world, just like there are Spanish labels at the grocery store here. It's called export.

Actually, countries that export products to the United States put the labels in English.

Not always.

I have never noticed any products in the grocery store with labels in a foreign language, and there are plenty of imported products. By law, they have to have a list of ingredients on them and nutritional information in English.

 

[nat4900]

Corruption is an intrinsic feature of socialism. Liberals are so smart that they cling to their imbecile belief in socialism despite being shown example after example where it failed.

Always up there in the "moron-quotient", right bripat?

So, if corruption is an "intrinsic part of socialism"....does it follow that corruption does NOT exist in a capitalistic system?

NO ONE on the left wants to emulate Venezuela....and you idiots keep on bringing up Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba and Somalia as the "paragons" of socialism....which make you.......well, .........idiots.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yeah that's why the Founders did not have a Federal Income Tax and was against it.

Very Adam Smith but it's interesting to see how the government was funded then? A free-trade capitalist would be horrified. Look it up: Tariffs in United States history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[bripat9643]

If someone had floated the idea of socialism to the Founding Fathers they would have looked at them like they had worms coming out their ears

Think so huh?

1. “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
— Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

2. “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
— Thomas Jefferson.

3. “The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”
— James Madison

Both of them would be totally against the Federal Reserve.

Very likely, the opposed concentrated power and wealth getting its way with no group able to stop them however they believed in government, it's why the founded one eh?

What they did not establish, anarchy, unregulated capitalism, or a nation for selfish children who think only of their own welfare...

Actually, they did establish unregulated capitalism. What kind of regulations on business did the federal government enforce in 1800?

Doesn't matter if they didn't have a one, they established, in the Constitution itself, the ability to regulate economic activity. That wasn't by accident.

No, actually they didn't. That's a lie that FDR managed to foist on the public. He extorted the Supreme Court into interpreting the Constitution the way he wanted it interpreted.

But you pretty much just admitted that we had unregulated capitalism until 1933.

 

[thanatos144]

You actually think Sweden doesn't have the same products we do? That's just dumb.

Not in English dipshit

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Yes, in English. There are English labeled products on the shelves of every country in the world, just like there are Spanish labels at the grocery store here. It's called export.

Actually, countries that export products to the United States put the labels in English.

Not always.

I have never noticed any products in the grocery store with labels in a foreign language, and there are plenty of imported products. By law, they have to have a list of ingredients on them and nutritional information in English.

Specialty stores will... but they pay for them to be like that.....

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[nat4900]

Permanent war and profligate defense spending are the main purpose of the Federal Government.

Well, heck, if that's all there is to it.....Let's hire mercenaries....Oh, wait....Halliburton?

 

[bripat9643]

Corruption is an intrinsic feature of socialism. Liberals are so smart that they cling to their imbecile belief in socialism despite being shown example after example where it failed.

Always up there in the "moron-quotient", right bripat?

So, if corruption is an "intrinsic part of socialism"....does it follow that corruption does NOT exist in a capitalistic system?.

The less government is involved in the economy, the less corruption there is. When government can't hand out favors, there's nothing to corrupt. Corporations have a vested interest in preventing corruption within the corporation, and they implement systems to prevent. That's not the case with government.

NO ONE on the left wants to emulate Venezuela....and you idiots keep on bringing up Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba and Somalia as the "paragons" of socialism....which make you.......well, .........idiots.

What you mean is you don't want to emulate the results of Venezuela's economic policies. However, you all support every policy the Venezuelan government has put in place. Those are exactly the policies that Bernie Sanders is pushing.

We understand why bringing up the disasters your theories have produced would make you angry.

 

[peach174]

6. “As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

Liberal aka classic libertarian to George Washington was liberty from big Government.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Think so huh?

1. “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
— Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

2. “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
— Thomas Jefferson.

3. “The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”
— James Madison

Both of them would be totally against the Federal Reserve.

Very likely, the opposed concentrated power and wealth getting its way with no group able to stop them however they believed in government, it's why the founded one eh?

What they did not establish, anarchy, unregulated capitalism, or a nation for selfish children who think only of their own welfare...

Actually, they did establish unregulated capitalism. What kind of regulations on business did the federal government enforce in 1800?

Doesn't matter if they didn't have a one, they established, in the Constitution itself, the ability to regulate economic activity. That wasn't by accident.

No, actually they didn't. That's a lie that FDR managed to foist on the public. He extorted the Supreme Court into interpreting the Constitution the way he wanted it interpreted.

But you pretty much just admitted that we had unregulated capitalism until 1933.

Help for you, again:

"The U.S. Constitution of 1789 gave the federal government authority to tax, stating that Congress has the power to "... lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States." and also "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes." Tariffs between states is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution, and all domestically made products can be imported or shipped to another state tax-free."
Tariffs in United States history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BULLDOG]

Think so huh?

1. “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
— Thomas Jefferson, 1802 letter to Secretary of State Albert Gallatin.

2. “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
— Thomas Jefferson.

3. “The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.”
— James Madison

Both of them would be totally against the Federal Reserve.

Very likely, the opposed concentrated power and wealth getting its way with no group able to stop them however they believed in government, it's why the founded one eh?

What they did not establish, anarchy, unregulated capitalism, or a nation for selfish children who think only of their own welfare...

Actually, they did establish unregulated capitalism. What kind of regulations on business did the federal government enforce in 1800?

Doesn't matter if they didn't have a one, they established, in the Constitution itself, the ability to regulate economic activity. That wasn't by accident.

No, actually they didn't. That's a lie that FDR managed to foist on the public. He extorted the Supreme Court into interpreting the Constitution the way he wanted it interpreted.

But you pretty much just admitted that we had unregulated capitalism until 1933.

In 1824 the Supreme Court strengthened the federal government's power to regulate interstate commerce with its decision in Gibbons v. Ogden, which involved the authority to license shipping. Steamboat operator Thomas Gibbons had secured only a federal license to run his business in New York State waters, which were controlled by a monopoly created through a state licensing system. A member of this monopoly, Aaron Ogden tried to shut down Gibbons's business by suing him for failing to have the proper New York State licenses. The Court ruled in favor of Gibbons and declared that commerce involved not only buying and selling but also transportation and navigation. By giving Congress the sole authority to regulate interstate transportation, this decision cleared the way for the United States to create a national transportation system that has continued to benefit business.

 

[bripat9643]

Yeah that's why the Founders did not have a Federal Income Tax and was against it.

Very Adam Smith but it's interesting to see how the government was funded then? A free-trade capitalist would be horrified. Look it up: Tariffs in United States history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was funded by tariffs. So what's your point?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

6. “As Mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

Liberal aka classic libertarian to George Washington was liberty from big Government.

Liberals are not libertarians. One has more morals, and the other is a selfish child.

 

[peach174]

How many of them are from Sweden?

It says in the link.

No it doesn't. Read your own damn link.

Only 1% want to move to Sweden and 23% want to come to America.
If it is so great why does only 1% want to move there?

whats up with that

sounds like the lefties have been trying to bs everyone again

i saw that in the link as well

--LOL

No BS. The link says how many want to move to Sweden. he poster implied Sweden citizens wanted to move here.

Where did I imply that?
I said then why do some want to move?

 

[nat4900]

What you mean is you don't want to emulate the results of Venezuela's economic policies. However, you all support every policy the Venezuelan government has put in place

Go have another drink, bripat.......you're dumber than usual (and that's an already low bar)

 

[the_human_being]

 

[BULLDOG]

Corruption is an intrinsic feature of socialism. Liberals are so smart that they cling to their imbecile belief in socialism despite being shown example after example where it failed.

Always up there in the "moron-quotient", right bripat?

So, if corruption is an "intrinsic part of socialism"....does it follow that corruption does NOT exist in a capitalistic system?.

The less government is involved in the economy, the less corruption there is. When government can't hand out favors, there's nothing to corrupt. Corporations have a vested interest in preventing corruption within the corporation, and they implement systems to prevent. That's not the case with government.

Is that why they passed all those anti-trust laws?

 

[BULLDOG]

It says in the link.

No it doesn't. Read your own damn link.

Only 1% want to move to Sweden and 23% want to come to America.
If it is so great why does only 1% want to move there?

whats up with that

sounds like the lefties have been trying to bs everyone again

i saw that in the link as well

--LOL

No BS. The link says how many want to move to Sweden. he poster implied Sweden citizens wanted to move here.

Where did I imply that?
I said then why do some want to move?

Nothing in the link says anything about Sweden's citizens wanting to move. Just how many people wanted to move there