So Why Doesn't John Thune Just End The Senate Filibuster Once And For All?

[Dr. Phosphorous]

It's not because Thune cares about preserving the quaint, racist Senate tradition of the filibuster. Please.

Thune also knows that Trump will probably steal future elections, so he is not really concerned about the Democrats regaining control of the Senate in the future, either.

Secretly, Thune knows the Big Ugly Bill is a disaster for the country and that ending the Obamacare subsidies will also be a disaster. He is hoping that Trump and Mike Johnson finally give in and negotiate a compromise with the Democrats. This is the real reason that Thune won't end the filibuster.

 

[Mack The Finger]

You're a hack !

 

[Seymour Flops]

Since Thune made a reasonable offer to discuss healthcare and vote on it, if only the Dems can show him that they have enough reasonable members of the Senate for it to make a difference, and the Democrats can't find any, he will be justified in ending the current filibuster.

But, not for a while. Trump has work to do while he is the only one in charge of spending.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

You're a hack !

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So please present your theory on why Thune hasn't ended the filibuster? That's the easiest way to end this shutdown.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Since Thune made a reasonable offer to discuss healthcare and vote on it, if only the Dems can show him that they have enough reasonable members of the Senate for it to make a difference, and the Democrats can't find any, he will be justified in ending the current filibuster.

Thune doesn't need a "justification". He can end the Senate filibuster right now.

He doesn't want the Republican Party to own the disaster of the Big Ugly Bill and the disaster of ending the Obamacare subsidies. That is the biggest reason why he won't do it..

But, not for a while. Trump has work to do while he is the only one in charge of spending.

Trump can attempt to cut. But he can't spend.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thune doesn't need a "justification". He can end the Senate filibuster right now.

He doesn't want the Republican Party to own the disaster of the Big Ugly Bill and the disaster of ending the Obamacare subsidies. That is the biggest reason why he won't do it..

So, what does he want?

Trump can attempt to cut. But he can't spend.

He is spending like a drunken sailor, with zero autorization from Congress. Just not as fast as before the shutdown, because it is only for "essential" stuff - in other words, almost everything that was being spent before the shutdown.

 

[Mack The Finger]

That's the easiest way to end this shutdown.

What shut down...the end of the terrorist hamas war ?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

So, what does he want?

I told you in post #1 what he wants -- for Trump and Mike Johnson to finally wise up and negotiate with the Democrats on health care.

Because Thune sure as **** doesn't want the Republican Party to own the Big Ugly Bill and the expired Obamacare subsidies.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

What shut down...the end of the terrorist hamas war ?

Whatever that means, simp.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Since Thune made a reasonable offer to discuss healthcare and vote on it, if only the Dems can show him that they have enough reasonable members of the Senate for it to make a difference, and the Democrats can't find any, he will be justified in ending the current filibuster.

But, not for a while. Trump has work to do while he is the only one in charge of spending.

Do you are v the guy that goes to a car dealer commits to buying a car, then tries to negotiate accessories and price. LOL

But I’d say “Sure, under these conditions we will commit to the votes.” Then if the conditions aren’t met the votes don’t need to come through.

What idiot would agree to yes vote and then negotiate? Is that a secret chapter in The Art Of The Deal?

WW

 

[Mack The Finger]

Whatever that means, simp.

YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT hamas ATTACKING ISRAEL AND KILLING LIKE 1,200 PEOPLE. WHAT WERE YOU AT A DRUG RAVE OR SOMETHING ?

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

YOU DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT hamas ATTACKING ISRAEL AND KILLING LIKE 1,200 PEOPLE. WHAT WERE YOU AT A DRUG RAVE OR SOMETHING ?

It has nothing to do with the shutdown, you mentally ill MAGA imbecile.

 

[Mack The Finger]

It has nothing to do with the shutdown, you mentally ill MAGA imbecil

Listen you NPC robot satan worshiping baby killer...why do you take a break. Your post are getting more and more incoherent even for the fruitcakes.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Do you are v the guy that goes to a car dealer commits to buying a car, then tries to negotiate accessories and price. LOL

But I’d say “Sure, under these conditions we will commit to the votes.” Then if the conditions aren’t met the votes don’t need to come through.

What idiot would agree to yes vote and then negotiate? Is that a secret chapter in The Art Of The Deal?

WW

They don't have to agree to vote yes. What you said would work. "under those conditions, we will commit to the votes," is what Thune is asking for. You don't know this, because your media doesn't tell you stuff.

But . . . Thune wants to know which Senators would vote yes on the clean CR, if conditions are met. "Show me the votes."

He won't take Schumer's word for it, and I don't blame him.

But, I hope the Dems don't take the deal, and I hope the Reps don't end the filibuster. This is fun for everyone except Democrats.

Did you see how tired and frustrated Hakeem the Dream looked today? He's not even in the Senate, just dealing with the fallout from being the bulldog for the old white man in the Senate.

 

[blackhawk]

Because doing something for short term political gain is highly stupid the change you make today for your political gain will be used against you when you are the minority party again he knows this.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Because doing something for short term political gain is highly stupid the change you make today for your political gain will be used against you when you are the minority party again he knows this.

Thune doesn't want the Republican Party to own this horrible Big Ugly Bill and skyrocketing health care costs shit sandwich.

That's the biggest reason.

 

[blackhawk]

Thune doesn't want the Republican Party to own this horrible Big Ugly Bill and skyrocketing health care costs shit sandwich.

That's the biggest reason.

No, it's not he knows what happened the last time two Majority Senate leaders did something short sighted for short term political gain Harry Reid and the Democrats used the so-called nuclear option in 2013 to get cabinet nominees and lower court justices confirmed on a simple majority than the 60 it had been and when they lost the Senate in 2014 and the presidency in 2016 the Republicans took full advantage of it. Fast forward and Mitch McConnell and the Republicans did the same thing with Supreme Court nominees and as soon as the Democrats took back the Senate and Presidency, they took advantage of that. Thune understands neither party stays in control for long and that ending the filibuster would come back to bite the Republicans in the ass just as it did Reid and McConnell.

 

[Mack The Finger]

 

[WorldWatcher]

They don't have to agree to vote yes. What you said would work. "under those conditions, we will commit to the votes," is what Thune is asking for. You don't know this, because your media doesn't tell you stuff.

Agreed in part, disagree in part. The politicians are on the TV, so ya, it is in the media.

GOP: We want ensure no federal dollars are used for illegal aliens to provide health care outside of emergency care REQUIRED under Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA).

DEM: We want to extend the ACA subsidies for the period of the BBB so that American citizens don't see huge premium increases or lose coverage.

So given those positions you negotiate a deal where for each dollar a state spends on providing non-EMTALA care to illegals, federal dollars are reduced by 1. That means the state will be spending TWICE the cost ($1 State + $1 Federal).

But . . . Thune wants to know which Senators would vote yes on the clean CR, if conditions are met. "Show me the votes."

That's none of his business, knowing the votes will be their is * * ALL * * he needs. As Majority Leader he can of course get a head count of HIS OWN party, but he has no such business making such demands from the other party.

He won't take Schumer's word for it, and I don't blame him.

And given the way that DEMs were told "Sit down and shut up", "There is a new sherriff in down", "We won, you lost, suck it" and how the DEMs were ignored during passage of the BBB and it being passed by a simply majority under reconsiliation...

Shumer has no reason to trust the GOP and vote now for a clean CR and we'll negotiate later.

WW

 

[Mac1958]

It's not because Thune cares about preserving the quaint, racist Senate tradition of the filibuster. Please.

Thune also knows that Trump will probably steal future elections, so he is not really concerned about the Democrats regaining control of the Senate in the future, either.

Secretly, Thune knows the Big Ugly Bill is a disaster for the country and that ending the Obamacare subsidies will also be a disaster. He is hoping that Trump and Mike Johnson finally give in and negotiate a compromise with the Democrats. This is the real reason that Thune won't end the filibuster.

He's also scoring points with those who want to fire as many people as possible. Gotta keep them happy, or they'll say he's a commie.

Thune has been one the bigger disappointments in this. I had him figured as a normal Republican.