Ravi
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It would only apply to three miles out from the coast. And no, you read it incorrectly.
So what should Obama have done?
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Immanuel
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Not to belittle the offer of aid from anyone, because I for one am appreciative of any aid we can get on this, but 10 skimmers, 3 sweeping arms and 24,000 feet of boom hardly seems sufficient in this case.
I know we have our own, but when you think of the vast area that is affected by this spill seeing numbers like that is nothing short of frightening.
Okay, for the record, some where back in this thread, I made a comment about President Obama believing we could process the oil taken out of the sea into fuel oil and that was why he was so arrogantly turning down foreign aid. I was, in fact, only joking about that. I had no knowledge of this device nor do I believe that President Obama would really be THAT arrogant, greedy or foolish.
Immie
Ravi
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There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
But, politicians are willing to tie up tax payers money on unproven alternative energy at a grand scale.
There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
Immanuel
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There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
For the record, my point was that when I earlier made the comment that the President was refusing to allow other nations to help was because he had visions of refining that oil and actually using it was a joke. I was not insinuating that he was only concerned with the wealth the oil would provide either for him or the nation..
I was joking about that, but I don't think that was or is what is on his mind. Sure, if the oil swept out of the gulf could in some way be processed that would be better than losing all of it, but I was only joking about the President's motives. I am sure the President is as concerned about the environmental impact this is having and will have on the world as the rest of us are.
Immie
Ravi
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But, politicians are willing to tie up tax payers money on unproven alternative energy at a grand scale.
There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
Unproven? I realize this is a red herring on your part but I know several people that use solar and or/wind power, drive hybrid cars, cut down on their electrical usage, etc. How is conserving and using alternate sources unproven? It certainly cuts down on the need for oil.
Ravi
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There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
For the record, my point was that when I earlier made the comment that the President was refusing to allow other nations to help was because he had visions of refining that oil and actually using it was a joke. I was not insinuating that he was only concerned with the wealth the oil would provide either for him or the nation..
I was joking about that, but I don't think that was or is what is on his mind. Sure, if the oil swept out of the gulf could in some way be processed that would be better than losing all of it, but I was only joking about the President's motives. I am sure the President is as concerned about the environmental impact this is having and will have on the world as the rest of us are.
Immie
For not trying to say something you sure are repeating it often enough. Maybe you should start a thread in the conspiracy theory forum. btw...doesn't the oil belong to BP?
Immanuel
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There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
For the record, my point was that when I earlier made the comment that the President was refusing to allow other nations to help was because he had visions of refining that oil and actually using it was a joke. I was not insinuating that he was only concerned with the wealth the oil would provide either for him or the nation..
I was joking about that, but I don't think that was or is what is on his mind. Sure, if the oil swept out of the gulf could in some way be processed that would be better than losing all of it, but I was only joking about the President's motives. I am sure the President is as concerned about the environmental impact this is having and will have on the world as the rest of us are.
Immie
btw...doesn't the oil belong to BP?
What? Just because you didn't seem to pick up what I was saying? You're reply to my post was way out in left field. I was simply trying to clarify the point.
No, it does not belong to BP... look up "salvage rights" when you get a chance. I'm sure those rights would apply in this situation.
Immie
The second post was not even political in any perspective Ravi. Had you bothered to read it you would have known that. You presume much.
Ravi
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I did read it...which is why I made the comment about Terral.
How does not being political mean it isn't spam?
There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
For the record, my point was that when I earlier made the comment that the President was refusing to allow other nations to help was because he had visions of refining that oil and actually using it was a joke. I was not insinuating that he was only concerned with the wealth the oil would provide either for him or the nation..
I was joking about that, but I don't think that was or is what is on his mind. Sure, if the oil swept out of the gulf could in some way be processed that would be better than losing all of it, but I was only joking about the President's motives. I am sure the President is as concerned about the environmental impact this is having and will have on the world as the rest of us are.
Immie
btw...doesn't the oil belong to BP?
Why don't you start a Fantasy and Fairy Tale Forum where you can rightly praise Obama's incompetence and transform his impotence into a Super Power???
Ravi
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You could have a thread devoted to yourself on that forum too!
"The Princess And The Pea".
The opening post could read something like " La La La La La.... I can't hear you!!!"
Valerie
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But, politicians are willing to tie up tax payers money on unproven alternative energy at a grand scale.
There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
I was thinking that each of the respective states should have set up a process whereby local fisherman could sign up in advance to be commissioned in the case of an emergency. Each governor of each state considered "at risk" could preventatively assign permits to the local fleets via some sort of coast guard emergency training so when a catastrophe occurs everyone already knows who is who and what's what and they are already permitted to proceed accordingly without bureaucratic delays.
Ravi
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Now that's just sensible.But, politicians are willing to tie up tax payers money on unproven alternative energy at a grand scale.There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
I was thinking that each of the respective states should have set up a process whereby local fisherman could sign up in advance to be commissioned in the case of an emergency. Each governor of each state considered "at risk" could preventatively assign permits to the local fleets via some sort of coast guard emergency training so when a catastrophe occurs everyone already knows who is who and what's what and they are already permitted to proceed accordingly without bureaucratic delays.
Perhaps it will happen now since this disaster serves as a wake up call.
But, politicians are willing to tie up tax payers money on unproven alternative energy at a grand scale.There are probably lots of things out there on people's drawing boards that would work...problem being there is never a market for them until something like this happens. We aren't exactly a group of people that ties up taxpayer's money on what-ifs, sadly. It would have been great if in addition to making oil companies drill relief wells along with the actual well that we also had an entire fleet of ships standing by in case of an accident.
But that would be socialism or communism of fascism or some such nonsense.
Of course you missed the part of GRAND SCALE. Hybrid cars are from the private sector, Ravi, not tax payers money. Wind power still the same...private sector, they work in some areas but not most. Solar on a large scale......just don't see it happening. You forgot all about your good buddies the environmentalists that would keep all your solutions in courts for years to come with litigation.....just sayin...
Ravi
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Still not getting your point. Are you one of those that thought the space race was a waste of money?
Of course you missed the part of GRAND SCALE. Hybrid cars are from the private sector, Ravi, not tax payers money. Wind power still the same...private sector, they work in some areas but not most. Solar on a large scale......just don't see it happening. You forgot all about your good buddies the environmentalists that would keep all your solutions in courts for years to come with litigation.....just sayin...
Still not getting your point. Are you one of those that thought the space race was a waste of money?
Of course you missed the part of GRAND SCALE. Hybrid cars are from the private sector, Ravi, not tax payers money. Wind power still the same...private sector, they work in some areas but not most. Solar on a large scale......just don't see it happening. You forgot all about your good buddies the environmentalists that would keep all your solutions in courts for years to come with litigation.....just sayin...
Of course your not getting my point, Ravi, that's expected. Your saying that we don't tie up tax payers money with "what if's", I'm saying we most certainly do.
Ravi
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We should in this case...both having the readiness to deal with disasters and also the spending on alternative fuel sources.
You are correct.....but where is the money going to come from with the alternative fuels? We just don't have it with our debt growing atronomically everyday, Ravi. When is too much spending going to mean too much spending with politicians?
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