So very sorry Republicans Putin gambled and lost

[daveman]

Is that why Trump is always pumping up Pootin?

News flash: I don't care what Trump says about Putin. I don't change my views depending on what political leaders say. I am not a weak-minded leftist.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Trump Trump Putin's a leftist.

No way in hell that is true. You are not an informed person. Putin is akin to Hungary’s right-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban. Neither authoritarian is a leftist.

Hungary’s right-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has nurtured close political and economic ties with Russia for more than a decade​

Hungary’s Orban faces pressure to cut close ties with Putin By JUSTIN SPIKEAssociated PressThe Associated PressBUDAPEST, Hungary​

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — Hungary’sright-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has for more than a decade nurtured close political and economic ties with Russia, giving him the reputation as the Kremlin’s closest European Union ally.​

For weeks, as Russian President Vladimir Putin amassed tens of thousands of troops along the borders of Ukraine, Hungary’s neighbor to the east, Orban avoided condemning the buildup and spoke emphatically against applying sanctions.​

As tensions escalated, Orban even traveled to Moscow, where he met with Putin in the Kremlin,their 12th official visit in as many years, and lobbied for larger shipments of Russian gas​

Hungary's Orban faces pressure to cut close ties with Putin - Breitbart

Hungary’s right-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has nurtured close political and economic ties with Russia for more than a decade

www.breitbart.com

But when Russia’s large-scale invasion commenced last week, Orban for the first time laid responsibility for the tensions and violence on Moscow in what could be a turning point in his more than decade-long, pro-Russia approach.​

“Russia attacked Ukraine this morning with military force,” Orban said hours after the invasion began Thursday. “Together with our European Union and NATO allies, we condemn Russia’s military action.”​

Though Orban neglected to mention Putin by name, or to call the “military action” an invasion, his apparent about-face was long awaited by his critics both in the EU and in Hungary.​

It could also be a sign that he realizes his posture toward Moscow is “not rooted on stable fundaments,” said Daniel Hegedus, a fellow for Central Europe at the German Marshall Fund.​

“What we see is practically the collapse of Orban’s 12-year-long Russia policy,” Hegedus told the Associated Press. “I think (Orban) realized that Russia is a security threat in the region​

But when Russia’s large-scale invasion commenced last week, Orban for the first time laid responsibility for the tensions and violence on Moscow in what could be a turning point in his more than decade-long, pro-Russia approach.

“Russia attacked Ukraine this morning with military force,” Orban said hours after the invasion began Thursday. “Together with our European Union and NATO allies, we condemn Russia’s military action.”

Though Orban neglected to mention Putin by name, or to call the “military action” an invasion, his apparent about-face was long awaited by his critics both in the EU and in Hungary.

It could also be a sign that he realizes his posture toward Moscow is “not rooted on stable fundaments,” said Daniel Hegedus, a fellow for Central Europe at the German Marshall Fund.

“What we see is practically the collapse of Orban’s 12-year-long Russia policy,” Hegedus told the Associated Press. “I think (Orban) realized that Russia is a security threat in the region

 

[Rogue AI]

Bolton says Putin expected Trump to get out of NATO his second term, super dupe.

Bolton said Iraqis would welcome us as liberators too. Super dupe!!!

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost​

Until Vladimir Putin lunched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in the early hours of February 24, he was winning his standoff with the West. He had compelled the United States and Europe to take his demands seriously; he experienced the pleasure of being treated as the leader of a great power; and he had succeeded in intimidating the Ukrainians as well as Russia’s other neighboring states and the wider world.

All he had to do to solidify his victory was to recognize the independence of the so-called separatist republics in the Donbas, acknowledge that Ukraine’s chances of joining NATO were nil, and continue his creeping subversion of Ukraine in the expectation that, sooner or later, it would drift back into Russia’s orbit.

And then he blew it all by invading Ukraine.

Overnight, Russia became a pariah state. The West has already imposed an expanding range of sanctions with more expected. International opinion has almost unanimously condemned Putin’s war of aggression, and thousands of his own citizens have expressed their opposition to the war in demonstrations and petitions.

Most importantly, Ukrainians have fought back, fiercely. This was something Putin probably did not expect. In his initial announcement of a “special military operation,” Putin called on Ukrainian soldiers to lay down their arms, not out of concern for their lives, but because he truly believed they would be happy to do so. But they weren’t and they didn’t. Instead, they have inflicted punishing losses on his invasion force and have inspired the watching world with their courage.

Now the supposed chess grandmaster Putin has effectively maneuvered himself into an unwinnable position. Ukrainians throughout the entire country, regardless of the language they prefer to speak, their religion or ethnic background, have rallied around the flag. Tens of thousands have volunteered for territorial defense units. Many more have donated blood. Untold others have handed over their savings to help finance the defense of the country. An historic wave of patriotic fervor has gripped Ukraine.

The Ukrainian nation has been joined by diaspora Ukrainians, who are now busy staging rallies and fundraising for their homeland. All these Ukrainians now consider themselves part of a modern Ukrainian nation that is as diverse as it is united in its opposition to Putin and everything he stands for: namely dictatorship and vassalage. Ukrainians have demonstrated that they love their country, despite all its extant faults, and that they are willing to sacrifice greatly for it.

Ukraine’s dramatic show of wartime unity and national strength is exceptionally inconvenient for Putin. In his increasingly unhinged attempts to justify his war, the Russian ruler has claimed to be fighting against a ragtag band of “fascists,” “Nazis,” and “drug addicts” who represent no one but their own interests and their “paymasters” in the West. As it turns out, Putin has declared war on a patriotic nation of more than 40 million people in a country the size of France.

His options are now all bad. He could still physically destroy Ukraine and commit a massive genocide against its inhabitants, but even the craziest of Russian imperialists would probably balk at the idea of what would be the most colossal atrocity in human history.

Putin may yet try to establish a puppet Ukrainian regime in Kyiv that would be happy to do his bidding, as intelligence reports have long predicted. However, that would mean occupying a huge country indefinitely. This would probably require around a million soldiers, all of whom would become targets of a Ukrainian resistance movement that would be sure to emerge.

Alternatively, Putin could try to work out some kind of deal with the current Ukrainian administration, but that would mean effectively admitting to his inner circle if not to the Russian people that his bloody enterprise had actually achieved nothing that negotiations could not have produced at far smaller cost.

This isn't a problem for actual republicans and conservatives which is why so many of us were so critical of Biden failing to help fortify Ukraine for more than a year until he finally caved under public pressure after the invasion began.

There's a segment though of wacko's that have trouble with target ID.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

No way in hell that is true. You are not an informed person. Putin is akin to Hungary’s right-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban. Neither authoritarian is a leftist.

Hungary’s right-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has nurtured close political and economic ties with Russia for more than a decade​

Hungary’s Orban faces pressure to cut close ties with Putin By JUSTIN SPIKEAssociated PressThe Associated PressBUDAPEST, Hungary​

​

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — Hungary’sright-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has for more than a decade nurtured close political and economic ties with Russia, giving him the reputation as the Kremlin’s closest European Union ally.​

​

For weeks, as Russian President Vladimir Putin amassed tens of thousands of troops along the borders of Ukraine, Hungary’s neighbor to the east, Orban avoided condemning the buildup and spoke emphatically against applying sanctions.​

​

As tensions escalated, Orban even traveled to Moscow, where he met with Putin in the Kremlin,their 12th official visit in as many years, and lobbied for larger shipments of Russian gas​

​

Hungary's Orban faces pressure to cut close ties with Putin - Breitbart

Hungary’s right-wing nationalist prime minister, Viktor Orban, has nurtured close political and economic ties with Russia for more than a decade

www.breitbart.com

​

But when Russia’s large-scale invasion commenced last week, Orban for the first time laid responsibility for the tensions and violence on Moscow in what could be a turning point in his more than decade-long, pro-Russia approach.​

​

“Russia attacked Ukraine this morning with military force,” Orban said hours after the invasion began Thursday. “Together with our European Union and NATO allies, we condemn Russia’s military action.”​

​

Though Orban neglected to mention Putin by name, or to call the “military action” an invasion, his apparent about-face was long awaited by his critics both in the EU and in Hungary.​

​

It could also be a sign that he realizes his posture toward Moscow is “not rooted on stable fundaments,” said Daniel Hegedus, a fellow for Central Europe at the German Marshall Fund.​

​

“What we see is practically the collapse of Orban’s 12-year-long Russia policy,” Hegedus told the Associated Press. “I think (Orban) realized that Russia is a security threat in the region​

But when Russia’s large-scale invasion commenced last week, Orban for the first time laid responsibility for the tensions and violence on Moscow in what could be a turning point in his more than decade-long, pro-Russia approach.

“Russia attacked Ukraine this morning with military force,” Orban said hours after the invasion began Thursday. “Together with our European Union and NATO allies, we condemn Russia’s military action.”

Though Orban neglected to mention Putin by name, or to call the “military action” an invasion, his apparent about-face was long awaited by his critics both in the EU and in Hungary.

It could also be a sign that he realizes his posture toward Moscow is “not rooted on stable fundaments,” said Daniel Hegedus, a fellow for Central Europe at the German Marshall Fund.

“What we see is practically the collapse of Orban’s 12-year-long Russia policy,” Hegedus told the Associated Press. “I think (Orban) realized that Russia is a security threat in the region

That's the funny part of this whole "De Nazification" BS he's peddling.

Putin has far more in common with Hitler than Stalin, both ran/run Fascists Oligarchies.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Putin is not a leftist. He's a Nazis-type NATIONALIST, like those that support Trump.

Nationalism is not synonymous with Fascism and never has been.

You people need some new material. Putting your country first is NOT fascism, Nazism or any of your other pre programmed buzz words.

It only seems to be a problem with those who feel that the US as a country is immoral.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Putin lost his rational mind; he got too bold under his inflating ego.
I won't be surprised if he's terminated by a group of his butt-kissing underlings.

Think of the billions he and his fellow oligarchs have already lost and what they will lose going forward.

He's a marked man.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Another poster that Trump broke.

What Trump broke was the Republican Party and our Nation.

This nation has not been so divided since the US civil war and he poured the gas on the fires and lit them.

He had an opportunity to be a healer and uniter despite the media/dem's but got too hung up on his own ego and left the office with a much more divided country than anyone living today has ever seen.,

 

[Big Bend Texas]

American conservatives are just as unhinged as Putin in their defense of the Russian tyrant and warmonger.

Those aren't conservatives, they're a combination of anti war for any reason libertarian types and Trump sycophants who can't see past, "If Joe's Fer it, Immmaginnit".

 

[Mac1958]

Ukraine War: Vladimir Putin has gambled everything and lost

Well, they still have hope:

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Well, they still have hope:

That hope is one of hundreds of still flaming wrecks from Russian Convoys in retreat.

 

[eddiew37]

This isn't a problem for actual republicans and conservatives which is why so many of us were so critical of Biden failing to help fortify Ukraine for more than a year until he finally caved under public pressure after the invasion began.

There's a segment though of wacko's that have trouble with target ID.

Do you perhaps have a link with republicans asking Biden to aide Ukraine and he didn't?? We know Trump withheld aid because Ukraine wouldn't lie for him

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Nationalism is not synonymous with Fascism and never has been.

that is correct. . . . However(1) RUSSIA FIRST (1) Vladimir Putin is a white Orthodox Christian Nationalist brutal dictator and global terrorist. Trump admires him. (2) HUNGARY FIRST “To his supporters, Hungary's prime minister Viktor Orban represents true European values: Christianity; the predominance of the nation-state; government for the masses, not the elites. - - - To his critics, he’s an opportunistic populist who cares only about his own power and has made Hungary a pariah within Europe. Hungary election: Who is Viktor Orban and how has he stayed in power for so long?

Tucker Carlson and the Trumpy Grumpy Fox News Right have been providing aid and comfort to the above two nasty European values authoritarian leaders of white Christian nationalists abroad. AMERICA FIRST Donald Trump is our version of 1 & 2 .

Tell us Desert Texan how 3 is not a carbon copy of 1 & 2.

GERMANY (4) Adolph Hitler was an opportunistic populist who cared only about his own power and made Germany a pariah within Europe. He was a fascist and so are 1 2 & 3 differentiated only by degree of the use of terrorist tactics to stay in power. Worst to last in order 4, 1 , 3, & 2 . But 1 is going for first place all documented brutality on video.

Hopefully Biden is correct - he will be removed ASAP.

Did you support 4 when he was in power?

daveman says Putin is a leftist. do you agree dave is a moron on that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He had an opportunity to be a healer and uniter despite the media/dem's

We weren't united after eight years of Obama?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

We weren't united after eight years of Obama?

Of course we weren’t when overt racists, corporatists, and white evangelical Christian Nationalists joined forces to elect DJT.

 

[martybegan]

Of course we weren’t when overt racists, corporatists, and white evangelical Christian Nationalists joined forces to elect DJT.

Lol, typical "anyone not a SJW twat like me is a NAAAAAZZZZIIIIIII"

 

[jc456]

You haven't made the connection of the two.
You are assuming Trump stopped him. He didn't.

you have no fking idea about any of it, like I don't. What I have are facts that Putin didn't invade Ukraine while Trump was in office. That fact you cannot change. Nor do you have any way of knowing any connection. Just blabbering about some tds nightmare you have.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Lol, typical "anyone not a SJW twat like me is a NAAAAAZZZZIIIIIII"

Absolutely not necessarily. Do you think officer Derek Chauvin was railroaded, convicted and that was an affront to white people? Is Officer Chauvin’s conviction one of your grievances?

 

[jc456]

Post the law! BTW, you inferred it was in the Constitution and it is not. And, if you are claiming this is an EO, that is not a law. Now, stomp out on the gasoline fire with your forked tongue and post the Supreme Courts Decision.

Nope, you're misrepresenting what he said, He said it was against the law for them to strike, not a fking word about the constitution. He quoted the law in post #931. Why did you avoid reading that post? Was your intentions to ignore the law that's on the books and lie? hmmmmm seems so following along in here.

 

[jc456]

Absolutely not necessarily. Do you think officer Derek Chauvin was railroaded, convicted and that was an affront to white people? Is Officer Chauvin’s conviction one of your grievances?

Do I think Chauvin was railroaded? Naw, was he wrongly convicted? yes,
he should have been charged with reckless homicide.
There was no intent, he didn't wake up and plan on killing anyone.
He allowed anger to impede his judgement because Floyd was belligerent to the cops there.
Chauvin had no idea that Floyd was full of illegal drugs which had hampered floyd in the past.