So the media stopped covering LGBT icon Terry Bean's story in November

I've never heard of Terry Bean, before his arrest or after. Nor have I ever heard of goLocalPDX'.

Why would you expect Terry Bean to get national exposure?

Lots of people never heard of Josh Duggar. But he became newsworthy hiring prostitutes and diddling little ones when it was known he worked for a time for the traditional marriage outfit.

Terry Bean is a big player in LGBT advocacy. What he did and what he advocates for should get the exact same coverage the Duggar story did.
 
This isn't my thread. And, I saw the story here at USMB.

There it is. My most favorite of all the LGBT tricks in the bag they carry daily. "If anyone protests our weird and alarmingly tenacious and aggressive cult, even when our cult threatens minors safety or wellbeing, that person is immediately suspect of being gay".

Guy, the obsession you have about gay people makes me wonder if you'd get a woodie if we showed you some gay porn. Again, if a vegetarian can't stop talking about steak, I'd wonder if he is eating steak on the side. If a homophobe describes gay sex in the most lurid terms this slide of slash-fiction, it's not a big stretch to conclude that's what he's into.

That would be the same logic as saying "if you're adamantly opposed to and outspoken against murder, then you may be a closet murderer". Aberrant behaviors are aberrant behaviors. People can and should object to them without being "skunk sprayed" by those crazy people doing them saying "you probably want to be doing this too!".

So you are comparing two people in a loving relationship performing the same sex acts straight people do to... um... murder? No, seriously?

Face reality. People object to Terry Bean barebacking minors and youngsters without his being prosecuted. If the boy's father was aggressively opposed to Bean exposing his 16 year old son to HIV by sodomizing him, does that make his father "secretly homosexual"?

You see, the whole "Barebacking" thing, makes me wonder how much gay porn in in your stash, dude. Frankly, it's not something I've ever spent any time thinking about, the mechanics of two dudes doing it.
 
Lots of people never heard of Josh Duggar. But he became newsworthy hiring prostitutes and diddling little ones when it was known he worked for a time for the traditional marriage outfit.

Terry Bean is a big player in LGBT advocacy. What he did and what he advocates for should get the exact same coverage the Duggar story did.

Except Duggars actions were against actual children, not people who hadn't reached an imaginary "age of consent" who were already sexually active. That and his parents covered up his actions for years, even when committed against his SIBLINGS!!!

Oh, yeah, that and his organization was lecturing eveyone else telling them what kind of sex they were supposed to have.

Now, if Bean was telling Traditional Christians "Don't you dare have sex only with your oppossite sex partner in the missionary position once a month with the lights out!!!" you might have a point about him lecturing to people. But he wasn't really telling anyone else how to live their lives.
 
No- that is just a lie.

No one says 'only 10% of homosexuals are kiddie rapers' except flaming homophobes.

Take it up with the 'Gay Rights bowel Movement' activists. It's been their claim for decades, not mine. I agree it's a lie, since the percentage is probably more like 30%.

And try learning another insult; you trolls and astro-turfers are wearing out the 'homophobe' gimmick. Nobody is fooled by it anyway. Time for your clown acts to move on to some new lies.


...followed by a some lame attempt at pretending to be informing and schooling us all on topics nobody brought up or disputed, and using the usual practice of highly selective cites.

Why not also quote Dr. Ryan Hall's other facts he seems okay with, like these from another article he has his name on; don't you like these? I mean, your attempt at role playing an 'objective scholar' and all it would seem you wouldn't want to to lie by omission, would you?

Fifty percent to 70% of pedophiles can be diagnosed as having another paraphilia, such as frotteurism, exhibitionism, voyeurism, or sadism.

The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%).

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts.Bisexual offenders have on average abused 27.3 children and committed more than 120 acts.

A study by Abel et al of 377 nonincarcerated, non–incest-related pedophiles, whose legal situations had been resolved and who were surveyed using an anonymous self-report questionnaire, found that heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts, whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts. These studies confirm law enforcement reports about the serial nature of the crime, the large number of children abused by each pedophile, and the under-reporting of assaults.

Studies that used self-reports and polygraphs show that pedophiles currently in treatment under-report their current interest in children and past behaviors .

For children who were abused multiple times, the most common response was that they felt partly responsible (57.7%) or that they did not want the person prosecuted because of some degree of attachment (44.2%).46 It is startling that the North American Man/Boy Love Association Web site uses research with similar findings (eg, it did not bother me or I liked the experience) to justify its position on why it should be legal for adult men to have consensual sexual relationships with boys.

The published rates of recidivism are in the range of 10% to 50% for pedophiles depending on their grouping. Some studies have reported that certain classes of pedophiles (eg, homosexual, nonrelated) have the highest rate for repeated offending compared with other sex offenders.17,99 Generally, homosexual and bisexual pedophiles have higher recidivism rates than heterosexual pedophiles.

A Profile of Pedophilia:

Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism,
Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues
RYAN C. W. HALL, MD, AND RICHARD C. W. HALL, MD, PA

Mayo Clin Proc. • April 2007;82(4):457-471 • www.mayoclinicproceedings.com


The problem is with pedophiles- who rape children- not with homosexuals- or heterosexuals- who do not rape children.

More nonsense and fake 'science'. An examination of the methodologies of the studies that claim that shows how they define homosexuality in a way that skews the results; it turns out hardly any homosexuals exist at all in their definition and criteria. They define homosexuals as had even a single heterosexual encounter as not being homosexual, which is ridiculous, since less than 5% of those who consider themselves homosexuals have ever been exclusively homosexual; it's called 'biasing' the results, and then claiming false conclusions from it, for one. This way they can make a fake claim like yours.

Note the last distinction because it is important- just as Jerry Sandusky was openly heterosexual in his adult relations- married and a father- he was also a homosexual pedophile who raped boys.

So what? He was a homosexual rapist. This is a lame point in view of the stats that only a tiny percentage of those who identify as homosexuals are or have been exclusively so.

And, we also have the history of the 'Gay Rights' hoax and its long and loving association with NAMBLA and other criminal fronts for kiddie rapers to point to as well.
 
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Since I was answering a post that had nothing to do with murdering anybody, so this is just a strawman, and lame at that. The topic is how the media covers homosexuals and covers up anything negative about their mentally ill pets.

you mentioned three people who were murdered as being icons and then used the word martyr, and then say you weren't talking about Murder? This is interesting. Oh, well, do go on with your point.

We understand why you won't dispute the point being made and instead want to dissemble and play some silly games, we truly do.

And, only one, Sheppard, was murdered, and he was murdered by his fellow homosexual gang bang buddies over a drug deal. I'm sure you don't want to address that now, either. The MSM was absolutely hysterical and vicious about blaming it on 'Da Evul Xians' and Homophobia N Stuff' for weeks and months, yet we haven't seen any kind of admission or apologies, instead they just move on the next big lie, just as you do.

Another example is the cognitive dissonance surrounding the meme spouted about how 'only 10% of homosexuals are kiddie rapers', as if that is a 'talking point' that absolves them of something, never mind they are only 1%-2% of the population. This is the kind of 'argument' sociopaths would buy as some sort of 'proof' of their 'normality', and we should all be enthusiastic about having them around our children and being allowed to adopt children, as if there is nothing wrong here.

You know, you keep making these claims, and you never back them up with anything.

lol yes your posts are always fact filled wonders of objectivity and sterling research ... You're just another shill and phoney like all the other asto-turfers and sociopaths.

Pedophiles are neither gay nor straight... they're pedophiles.

Another BS lie. Care to post a link to the studies making that fake claim, so we can all see for ourselves the methodologies they use to come up with that gibberish? Meanwhile, here's an abstract of a study of interest:

The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study. - PubMed - NCBI

Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.

Wonder why these studies are never cited?

Well, actually I don't wonder at all.
 
The fact is, you comb these homophobic websites all day, trying to rationalize your hate because another dude hit on you after you set off his Gaydar.

Here's a REAL Study that's telling.

Study: Homophobes May Be Hidden Homosexuals

This isn't my thread. And, I saw the story here at USMB.

There it is. My most favorite of all the LGBT tricks in the bag they carry daily. "If anyone protests our weird and alarmingly tenacious and aggressive cult, even when our cult threatens minors safety or wellbeing, that person is immediately suspect of being gay".

That would be the same logic as saying "if you're adamantly opposed to and outspoken against murder, then you may be a closet murderer". Aberrant behaviors are aberrant behaviors. People can and should object to them without being "skunk sprayed" by those crazy people doing them saying "you probably want to be doing this too!".

Face reality. People object to Terry Bean barebacking minors and youngsters without his being prosecuted. If the boy's father was aggressively opposed to Bean exposing his 16 year old son to HIV by sodomizing him, does that make his father "secretly homosexual"?

It's just obvious homosexuals aren't a 'community', and male homosexuals couldn't care less about infecting each other with anything, period. They're mentally ill, and are only interested in themselves and their fetishes. The 'gay community' is almost single-handedly keeping syphilis alive and an epidemic, not just HIV; they are at the top of the list in every category of venereal disease infections and transmissions, and in such 'Diversity' paradises as San Francisco you can throw in such expressions of 'love' as epidemic levels of drug resistant staph infections among the 'gay community' as well.
 
Except Duggars actions were against actual children, not people who hadn't reached an imaginary "age of consent" who were already sexually active.
.

You DO realize those "imaginary age of consent" limits are largely to protect EXACTLY the type of child/minor who may quite likely be experimenting sexually to mingle love with the act with peers, right? That is so adult predators, who seek the act of sex with those much younger than themselves (Terry Bean in his 60s with a 16 year old) for purely instant gratification and devoid of love (How could Bean love the boys he was barebacking, exposing them to death by HIV?) don't sully them or sully them further?

You realize that loveless sex so handed down in the well-known and documented abused-abuser cycle of sexual predators is the core of much disease, suffering and death of our young people?...

Because a minor has "already been spoiled/imprinted" for loveless high risk sex by another adult predator doesn't mean there is a brand new green light for all other adult predators to move in. Quite the contrary actually.

Thank you JoeB for inadvertently exposing a key element of the debate in this thread: the cycle and cooperation of the various elements that led to the 16 year old boy being online soliciting loveless sex with old strange men..
 
No- that is just a lie.

No one says 'only 10% of homosexuals are kiddie rapers' except flaming homophobes.

Take it up with the 'Gay Rights bowel Movement' activists. It's been their claim for decades, not mine. I agree it's a lie, since the percentage is probably more like 30%.

Nope. You're making shit up


...followed by a some lame attempt at pretending to be informing and schooling us all on topics nobody brought up or disputed, and using the usual practice of highly selective cites.

Why not also quote Dr. Ryan Hall's other facts he seems okay with, like these from another article he has his name on; don't you like these? I mean, your attempt at role playing an 'objective scholar' and all it would seem you wouldn't want to to lie by omission, would you?

Fifty percent to 70% of pedophiles can be diagnosed as having another paraphilia, such as frotteurism, exhibitionism, voyeurism, or sadism.

The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%).

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts.Bisexual offenders have on average abused 27.3 children and committed more than 120 acts.

A study by Abel et al of 377 nonincarcerated, non–incest-related pedophiles, whose legal situations had been resolved and who were surveyed using an anonymous self-report questionnaire, found that heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts, whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts. These studies confirm law enforcement reports about the serial nature of the crime, the large number of children abused by each pedophile, and the under-reporting of assaults.

Studies that used self-reports and polygraphs show that pedophiles currently in treatment under-report their current interest in children and past behaviors .

For children who were abused multiple times, the most common response was that they felt partly responsible (57.7%) or that they did not want the person prosecuted because of some degree of attachment (44.2%).46 It is startling that the North American Man/Boy Love Association Web site uses research with similar findings (eg, it did not bother me or I liked the experience) to justify its position on why it should be legal for adult men to have consensual sexual relationships with boys.

The published rates of recidivism are in the range of 10% to 50% for pedophiles depending on their grouping. Some studies have reported that certain classes of pedophiles (eg, homosexual, nonrelated) have the highest rate for repeated offending compared with other sex offenders.17,99 Generally, homosexual and bisexual pedophiles have higher recidivism rates than heterosexual pedophiles.

A Profile of Pedophilia:

Definition, Characteristics of Offenders, Recidivism,
Treatment Outcomes, and Forensic Issues
RYAN C. W. HALL, MD, AND RICHARD C. W. HALL, MD, PA

Mayo Clin Proc. • April 2007;82(4):457-471 • www.mayoclinicproceedings.com

"This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children."

And your entire argument goes 'boom'.

You know your own source explicitly contradicts you....drawing a clear distinction between heterosexuals (those attracted to adults of the opposite sex) and heterosexual pedophiles (adults attracted to children of the opposite sex). And between homosexuals (those attracted to adults of the same sex) and homosexual pedophiles (those attracted to children of the same sex.

Yet you fallaciously equate heterosexuals and heterosexual pedophiles (which aren't the same) and fallaciously equate homosexuals and homosexual pedophiles (which aren't the same).

If your argument had merit, you wouldn't need to misrepresent your own sources.
 
Pedophiles are neither gay nor straight... they're pedophiles.

The Mayo Clinic disagrees with you. .

The Mayo Clinic doesn't take any position at all- god you are such a liar.

The article by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall specifically says the opposite of what you want it to say.

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

You are incapable of posting without lying.
 
Except Duggars actions were against actual children, not people who hadn't reached an imaginary "age of consent" who were already sexually active.
.

You DO realize those "imaginary age of consent" limits are largely to protect EXACTLY the type of child/minor who may quite likely be experimenting sexually to mingle love with the act with peers, right? That is so adult predators, who seek the act of sex with those much younger than themselves (Terry Bean in his 60s with a 16 year old) for purely instant gratification and devoid of love (How could Bean love the boys he was barebacking, exposing them to death by HIV?) don't sully them or sully them further?

You realize that loveless sex so handed down in the well-known and documented abused-abuser cycle of sexual predators is the core of much disease, suffering and death of our young people?...

Because a minor has "already been spoiled/imprinted" for loveless high risk sex by another adult predator doesn't mean there is a brand new green light for all other adult predators to move in. Quite the contrary actually.

Thank you JoeB for inadvertently exposing a key element of the debate in this thread: the cycle and cooperation of the various elements that led to the 16 year old boy being online soliciting loveless sex with old strange men..

What 'various elements' are you referring to?

Remembering of course that by the logic of your own argument......Christians cooperation led to Duggar's molestation of his own sisters.

So......Christianity is a cult now? Or is your logic just a steaming pile of inconsistent horseshit?
 
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Pedophiles are neither gay nor straight... they're pedophiles.

The Mayo Clinic disagrees with you. .

The Mayo Clinic doesn't take any position at all- god you are such a liar.

The article by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall specifically says the opposite of what you want it to say.

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

You are incapable of posting without lying.

Like Sil's refusal to acknowledge the 'Constitutional Guaranteees' portion of the Windsor ruling.....Sil can't acknolwedge that her source explictly contradicts her assertions.

Why, I'm not sure. I mean, she knows she's lying. We know she's lying. And we explode her fallacious argument every time she makes it. So all she's doing is eroding her own credibility with anyone even remotely objective or rational.

The only reason I can think of ....is thumbsucking. Repeating the same debunked but comforting lies to herself over and over to sooth the cognitive dissonance between what she wants reality to be.....and what it actually is.
 
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Face reality. People object to Terry Bean barebacking minors and youngsters without his being prosecuted. ?

Reality is that people do object to Terry Bean not being prosecuted- but since the victim refuses to testify- not sure what you think should be done.

That of course has nothing to do with the reality of you lying again about the Mayo Clinic and the report by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf
 
No- that is just a lie.

No one says 'only 10% of homosexuals are kiddie rapers' except flaming homophobes.

Take it up with the 'Gay Rights bowel Movement' activists. It's been their claim for decades, not mine. I agree it's a lie, since the percentage is probably more like 30%..

Like I said- No one says 'only 10% of homosexuals are kiddie rapers' except flaming homophobes like yourself.

Why exactly do you lie to harm homosexuals and put children in danger?
 
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Note the last distinction because it is important- just as Jerry Sandusky was openly heterosexual in his adult relations- married and a father- he was also a homosexual pedophile who raped boys.

So what? He was a homosexual rapist. This is a lame point in view of the stats that only a tiny percentage of those who identify as homosexuals are or have been exclusively so.

And, we also have the history of the 'Gay Rights' hoax and its long and loving association with NAMBLA and other criminal fronts for kiddie rapers to point to as well.

Bigots like yourself can't handle the facts- and instead just want to attack homosexuals.

Jerry Sandusky was openly heterosexual in his adult relations- married and a father- he was also a homosexual pedophile who raped boys.

People like you- who want to tell parents to be frightened of homosexuals- are the silent co-conspirators with the Jerry Sandusky's of the world- because the story you tell parents is that their little boy is safe with a man- as long as he is not a homosexual. The Jerry Sandusky's of the world get away with child molestation because of people like you.
 
The fact is, you comb these homophobic websites all day, trying to rationalize your hate because another dude hit on you after you set off his Gaydar.

Here's a REAL Study that's telling.

Study: Homophobes May Be Hidden Homosexuals

This isn't my thread. And, I saw the story here at USMB.

There it is. My most favorite of all the LGBT tricks in the bag they carry daily. "If anyone protests our weird and alarmingly tenacious and aggressive cult, even when our cult threatens minors safety or wellbeing, that person is immediately suspect of being gay".

That would be the same logic as saying "if you're adamantly opposed to and outspoken against murder, then you may be a closet murderer". Aberrant behaviors are aberrant behaviors. People can and should object to them without being "skunk sprayed" by those crazy people doing them saying "you probably want to be doing this too!".

Face reality. People object to Terry Bean barebacking minors and youngsters without his being prosecuted. If the boy's father was aggressively opposed to Bean exposing his 16 year old son to HIV by sodomizing him, does that make his father "secretly homosexual"?

It's just obvious homosexuals aren't a 'community', and male homosexuals couldn't care less about infecting each other with anything, period. They're mentally ill, and are only interested in themselves and their fetishes..

You are no different than those who tells how all African Americans are violent thugs.

Just another bigot.
 
Pedophiles are neither gay nor straight... they're pedophiles.

The Mayo Clinic disagrees with you. .

The Mayo Clinic doesn't take any position at all- god you are such a liar.

The article by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall specifically says the opposite of what you want it to say.

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf

This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation to children.

You are incapable of posting without lying.

Like Sil's refusal to acknowledge the 'Constitutional Guaranteees' portion of the Windsor ruling.....Sil can't acknolwedge that her source explictly contradicts her assertions.

Why, I'm not sure. I mean, she knows she's lying. We know she's lying. And we explode her fallacious argument every time she makes it. So all she's doing is eroding her own credibility with anyone even remotely objective or rational.

The only reason I can think of ....is thumbsucking. Repeating the same debunked but comforting lies to herself over and over to sooth the cognitive dissonance between what she wants reality to be.....and what it actually is.

Well she is either
  • A compulsive liar or
  • Really delusional and just unable to process anything she doesn't want to process
Whichever it is, it doesn't explain away her compulsive campaign to harm homosexuals and their children.
 
Face reality. People object to Terry Bean barebacking minors and youngsters without his being prosecuted. ?

Reality is that people do object to Terry Bean not being prosecuted- but since the victim refuses to testify- not sure what you think should be done.

That of course has nothing to do with the reality of you lying again about the Mayo Clinic and the report by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf
The OP says Terry Bean paid off the 16 year old he barebacked so he wouldn't testify against him. That doesn't count. What should still stand trial are the statements the witness Lawson gave to the police, regardless of whether or not the minor testifies. And that is because the state doesn't acquit crimes against children, especially when indication is given by a witness that a suspect (Terry Bean) does these crimes in a serial fashion as an addiction.

Check out the actual police interview again for details. There still is one witness who will talk. Who HAS to talk because he ALREADY HAS TALKED.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/wapopartners.com/wweek-wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/03171108/lawson.pdf
 
Face reality. People object to Terry Bean barebacking minors and youngsters without his being prosecuted. ?

Reality is that people do object to Terry Bean not being prosecuted- but since the victim refuses to testify- not sure what you think should be done.

That of course has nothing to do with the reality of you lying again about the Mayo Clinic and the report by Dr. Hall and Dr. Hall

http://www.drryanhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf
The OP says Terry Bean paid off the 16 year old he barebacked so he wouldn't testify against himf

That of course has nothing to do with the reality of you once again lying about the Mayo Clinic and the report by Dr. Hall and Hall.
 
You DO realize those "imaginary age of consent" limits are largely to protect EXACTLY the type of child/minor who may quite likely be experimenting sexually to mingle love with the act with peers, right? That is so adult predators, who seek the act of sex with those much younger than themselves (Terry Bean in his 60s with a 16 year old) for purely instant gratification and devoid of love (How could Bean love the boys he was barebacking, exposing them to death by HIV?) don't sully them or sully them further?

Again, all the way up until the 19th century, a 15 year old was considered old enough to marry. Here was the thing. This teen was putting himself out on gay dating apps... I doubt Bean was his first sex partner.

You realize that loveless sex so handed down in the well-known and documented abused-abuser cycle of sexual predators is the core of much disease, suffering and death of our young people?...

Guy, real world... most of us don't end up marrying the first person we have sex with.

Because a minor has "already been spoiled/imprinted" for loveless high risk sex by another adult predator doesn't mean there is a brand new green light for all other adult predators to move in. Quite the contrary actually.

Guy, no one imprinted this kid. He was born gay.

Thank you JoeB for inadvertently exposing a key element of the debate in this thread: the cycle and cooperation of the various elements that led to the 16 year old boy being online soliciting loveless sex with old strange men..

There's a whole article in New York Magazine about how young girls are paying their way through college through prostitution because it pays better than McDonalds.... but I don't see you getting worked up about that.
 

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